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2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#641 » by Son Goku 25 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 6:03 am

Let's say hypothetically we get top pick and draft Flagg.

Would it be wise to trade a guy like Scottie for top 3 pick and pair Flagg with Harper? I know it's not a good look but something to consider esp if we get more pieces coming back.

I just don't know if Scottie and Flagg would come in the way of one another they have similar games and would need the same space to operate. If they can coexist then great but just a thought.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#642 » by Reeko » Wed Jan 8, 2025 6:09 am

Just saw VJ's highlights against Cincinnati. Looks like his handle is improving as is his ability to attack the rim. With an improving shot and his otherworldly defense I think he's a lock for top 5 and may very well solidify himself in the top 3.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#643 » by Thaddy » Wed Jan 8, 2025 9:07 am

Reeko wrote:Just saw VJ's highlights against Cincinnati. Looks like his handle is improving as is his ability to attack the rim. With an improving shot and his otherworldly defense I think he's a lock for top 5 and may very well solidify himself in the top 3.

His handle doesn't still get him anywhere. I don't project him to be a high end scorer that we need. I would have Jakucionis and Fears above him.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#645 » by Psubs » Wed Jan 8, 2025 1:41 pm

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Reeko wrote:Just saw VJ's highlights against Cincinnati. Looks like his handle is improving as is his ability to attack the rim. With an improving shot and his otherworldly defense I think he's a lock for top 5 and may very well solidify himself in the top 3.

His handle doesn't still get him anywhere. I don't project him to be a high end scorer that we need. I would have Jakucionis and Fears above him.

He's like mini Amen Thompson.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#646 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Wed Jan 8, 2025 1:50 pm

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Reeko wrote:Just saw VJ's highlights against Cincinnati. Looks like his handle is improving as is his ability to attack the rim. With an improving shot and his otherworldly defense I think he's a lock for top 5 and may very well solidify himself in the top 3.

His handle doesn't still get him anywhere. I don't project him to be a high end scorer that we need. I would have Jakucionis and Fears above him.

He's like mini Amen Thompson.


Don’t think they’re in the same tier as prospects. Amen coming in was an A level ball handler with explosive athleticism, great passing and rebounding. VJ is a great defender and a decent finisher at the rim, but cannot play point guard the same way Amen can/could (who was drafted as a PG).
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#647 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Wed Jan 8, 2025 1:52 pm

It’s sucks that OKC has like 4 first rounders this draft but we have like nothing to offer them
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#648 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:13 pm

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Thaddy wrote:His handle doesn't still get him anywhere. I don't project him to be a high end scorer that we need. I would have Jakucionis and Fears above him.

He's like mini Amen Thompson.


Don’t think they’re in the same tier as prospects. Amen coming in was an A level ball handler with explosive athleticism, great passing and rebounding. VJ is a great defender and a decent finisher at the rim, but cannot play point guard the same way Amen can/could (who was drafted as a PG).


I think they're in a similar tier. You are right that Amen is a better ballhandler but he cannot play that position in the NBA due to his lack of shooting. It maybe makes him a better threat in transition, but I don't think he can scale up a role all that easily. I see a similar outcome for Edgecombe.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#649 » by Psubs » Wed Jan 8, 2025 2:53 pm

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Psubs wrote:He's like mini Amen Thompson.


Don’t think they’re in the same tier as prospects. Amen coming in was an A level ball handler with explosive athleticism, great passing and rebounding. VJ is a great defender and a decent finisher at the rim, but cannot play point guard the same way Amen can/could (who was drafted as a PG).


I think they're in a similar tier. You are right that Amen is a better ballhandler but he cannot play that position in the NBA due to his lack of shooting. It maybe makes him a better threat in transition, but I don't think he can scale up a role all that easily. I see a similar outcome for Edgecombe.


Agreed. Jalen Green is a SG and Amen would be the Igoudala do everything slasher at SF. With VG would need a jumbo creator. Oh, I think I posted the comp for Russell Westbrook before.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#650 » by CazOnReal » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:27 pm

Son Goku 25 wrote:Let's say hypothetically we get top pick and draft Flagg.

Would it be wise to trade a guy like Scottie for top 3 pick and pair Flagg with Harper?

No.

Flagg is complementary to Scottie and unlike Harper, he's a known quantity in the NBA. Not that Flagg doesn't have a chance of being a bust but his profile is significantly less likely and his fit is a lot more seamless in the front than the questions Harper opens up regarding the backcourt.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#651 » by HumbleRen » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:32 pm

VJ being compared to the Thompson twins is very disrespectful to the twins.

They’re comfortably a tier tier above VJ as prospects. They have better physical tools, 0.1% athleticism with a very high feel for the game. Their passing ability is light years ahead of VJ too.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#652 » by Psubs » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:34 pm

CazOnReal wrote:
Son Goku 25 wrote:Let's say hypothetically we get top pick and draft Flagg.

Would it be wise to trade a guy like Scottie for top 3 pick and pair Flagg with Harper?

No.

Flagg is complementary to Scottie and unlike Harper, he's a known quantity in the NBA. Not that Flagg doesn't have a chance of being a bust but his profile is significantly less likely and his fit is a lot more seamless in the front than the questions Harper opens up regarding the backcourt.


Scottie seems to like it here so not a flight risk. Unless he wants out, keep him.

It would be scaled up version of trading Tyson Chandler for the pick to draft Eddy Curry. :-?
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#653 » by God Squad » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:50 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:Also, shout out to Danny Wolf! That kid is a baller!!

What does he look like in the NBA? Some version of Kelly O? He definitely has some passing chops for a guy his size.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#654 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:53 pm

HumbleRen wrote:VJ being compared to the Thompson twins is very disrespectful to the twins.

They’re comfortably a tier tier above VJ as prospects. They have better physical tools, 0.1% athleticism with a very high feel for the game. Their passing ability is light years ahead of VJ too.


Doesn't make much of a difference in terms of role in the NBA, unless they can both learn to shoot off the dribble efficiently.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#655 » by HumbleRen » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:57 pm

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HumbleRen wrote:VJ being compared to the Thompson twins is very disrespectful to the twins.

They’re comfortably a tier tier above VJ as prospects. They have better physical tools, 0.1% athleticism with a very high feel for the game. Their passing ability is light years ahead of VJ too.


Doesn't make much of a difference in terms of role in the NBA, unless they can both learn to shoot off the dribble efficiently.


Oh no it does. Amen is a legitimate point forward.

If you mean as in a top 2 scoring option on a team? Then yes, it doesn’t mean much until they can shoot.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#656 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Jan 8, 2025 5:05 pm

HumbleRen wrote:VJ being compared to the Thompson twins is very disrespectful to the twins.

They’re comfortably a tier tier above VJ as prospects. They have better physical tools, 0.1% athleticism with a very high feel for the game. Their passing ability is light years ahead of VJ too.


It's not disrespectful, it's just an odd comparison.
VJ is a significantly better shooter than the twins.

And defensively, there is very little separating the three. Probably give a slight edge to the twins because of their physical tools, but VJ is an absolute dog himself.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#657 » by notagenius » Wed Jan 8, 2025 5:05 pm

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He reminds me of Kyrie. Wouldn't be mad at all if we took him.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#658 » by God Squad » Wed Jan 8, 2025 5:08 pm

Guys I'd consider in the top 4
Flagg
Harper
Fears
Jakucionis

Maybe 5th
Newell
Ace
Tre Johnson
VJ

I'm hoping for a top 2 pick from the draft gods. I feel pretty good about the value they'll bring between Flagg and Harper. After them, it's a cluster F, and an eye of the beholder thing.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#659 » by ATLTimekeeper » Wed Jan 8, 2025 5:11 pm

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HumbleRen wrote:VJ being compared to the Thompson twins is very disrespectful to the twins.

They’re comfortably a tier tier above VJ as prospects. They have better physical tools, 0.1% athleticism with a very high feel for the game. Their passing ability is light years ahead of VJ too.


Doesn't make much of a difference in terms of role in the NBA, unless they can both learn to shoot off the dribble efficiently.


Oh no it does. Amen is a legitimate point forward.

If you mean as in a top 2 scoring option on a team? Then yes, it doesn’t mean much until they can shoot.


Doesn't seem like they're running much with him as a point anything. Either way it's a weird argument, you said both were a tier above Edgecombe and Auser isn't even as good as Amen, but you gave the same rationalization for why.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#660 » by God Squad » Wed Jan 8, 2025 5:15 pm

This is the type of draft that I'd hate to draft at #3.
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