Bears 9.0: Thomas Brown HC audition, offseason/draft prep

[molepharmer]

There’s been reason for concern. But it’s like I said at the very beginning of my post. There will never be reason to believe that they will get it right UNTIL they actually get it right. But the constant pessimism an poo poo’ing on anyone that believes they can get it right has made the discussion (city wide) very depressing. I just happen to think that it’s okay to talk a little about how we can get it right. I also happen to think that getting it right might not look exactly like what the media thinks “right” is. In fact it seems like most media and fans aren’t even interested in talking about what getting it “right” would even look like.

Sure we do.I don’t think its overly depressing in here considering the circumstances. And I try to stay fairly positive, I do, but I’d like to give some constructive criticism too. Neither of us are right or wrong, we just have different opinions on how they go about their business. And it scares me that one of these Eberflus 2.0’s they are going to talk to might just say the right thing to sucker them. Poles loves to try and find those diamonds in the rough.

I'm not sure why posters seem to feel there's an actual definitive way to hire the proper coach. If there was a clear cut method, you wouldn't have multiple HC openings every single year. You're dealing with people here, everybody is different and each individual may bring a unique aspect that needs to be cultivated. To believe one approach is the only right approach is nonsensical. When initially evaluating prospective candidates, I don't want my interview team to have a defined set of guidelines. I want diversity, not a bunch of close-minded bootlickers.

[Betta Bulleavit]

There’s been reason for concern. But it’s like I said at the very beginning of my post. There will never be reason to believe that they will get it right UNTIL they actually get it right. But the constant pessimism an poo poo’ing on anyone that believes they can get it right has made the discussion (city wide) very depressing. I just happen to think that it’s okay to talk a little about how we can get it right. I also happen to think that getting it right might not look exactly like what the media thinks “right” is. In fact it seems like most media and fans aren’t even interested in talking about what getting it “right” would even look like.

Sure we do.I don’t think its overly depressing in here considering the circumstances. And I try to stay fairly positive, I do, but I’d like to give some constructive criticism too. Neither of us are right or wrong, we just have different opinions on how they go about their business. And it scares me that one of these Eberflus 2.0’s they are going to talk to might just say the right thing to sucker them. Poles loves to try and find those diamonds in the rough.

I'm not sure why posters seem to feel there's an actual definitive way to hire the proper coach. If there was a clear cut method, you wouldn't have multiple HC openings every single year. You're dealing with people here, everybody is different and each individual may bring a unique aspect that needs to be cultivated. To believe one approach is the only right approach is nonsensical. When initially evaluating prospective candidates, I don't want my interview team to have a defined set of guidelines. I want diversity, not a bunch of close-minded bootlickers.

I could not have said this better. As I had mentioned previously, there are multiple ways that the Bears can get this right (or wrong). Given our recent outcomes, I think that it’s perfectly reasonable to criticize the team and the executives for the current mess. But it also seems to me that people are more interested in talking about how we will fail and how badly Poles and Warren suck than talking abut the ways in which they could very well right this ship.

[patryk7754]

There’s been reason for concern. But it’s like I said at the very beginning of my post. There will never be reason to believe that they will get it right UNTIL they actually get it right. But the constant pessimism an poo poo’ing on anyone that believes they can get it right has made the discussion (city wide) very depressing. I just happen to think that it’s okay to talk a little about how we can get it right. I also happen to think that getting it right might not look exactly like what the media thinks “right” is. In fact it seems like most media and fans aren’t even interested in talking about what getting it “right” would even look like.

Sure we do.I don’t think its overly depressing in here considering the circumstances. And I try to stay fairly positive, I do, but I’d like to give some constructive criticism too. Neither of us are right or wrong, we just have different opinions on how they go about their business. And it scares me that one of these Eberflus 2.0’s they are going to talk to might just say the right thing to sucker them. Poles loves to try and find those diamonds in the rough.

I'm not sure why posters seem to feel there's an actual definitive way to hire the proper coach. If there was a clear cut method, you wouldn't have multiple HC openings every single year. You're dealing with people here, everybody is different and each individual may bring a unique aspect that needs to be cultivated. To believe one approach is the only right approach is nonsensical. When initially evaluating prospective candidates, I don't want my interview team to have a defined set of guidelines. I want diversity, not a bunch of close-minded bootlickers.

The clear cut way is to hire who I want

[Betta Bulleavit]

Sure we do.I don’t think its overly depressing in here considering the circumstances. And I try to stay fairly positive, I do, but I’d like to give some constructive criticism too. Neither of us are right or wrong, we just have different opinions on how they go about their business. And it scares me that one of these Eberflus 2.0’s they are going to talk to might just say the right thing to sucker them. Poles loves to try and find those diamonds in the rough.

I'm not sure why posters seem to feel there's an actual definitive way to hire the proper coach. If there was a clear cut method, you wouldn't have multiple HC openings every single year. You're dealing with people here, everybody is different and each individual may bring a unique aspect that needs to be cultivated. To believe one approach is the only right approach is nonsensical. When initially evaluating prospective candidates, I don't want my interview team to have a defined set of guidelines. I want diversity, not a bunch of close-minded bootlickers.

The clear cut way is to hire who I want

You know, in a strange way, I think I can respect your directness and honesty!

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

Sure we do.I don’t think its overly depressing in here considering the circumstances. And I try to stay fairly positive, I do, but I’d like to give some constructive criticism too. Neither of us are right or wrong, we just have different opinions on how they go about their business. And it scares me that one of these Eberflus 2.0’s they are going to talk to might just say the right thing to sucker them. Poles loves to try and find those diamonds in the rough.

I'm not sure why posters seem to feel there's an actual definitive way to hire the proper coach. If there was a clear cut method, you wouldn't have multiple HC openings every single year. You're dealing with people here, everybody is different and each individual may bring a unique aspect that needs to be cultivated. To believe one approach is the only right approach is nonsensical. When initially evaluating prospective candidates, I don't want my interview team to have a defined set of guidelines. I want diversity, not a bunch of close-minded bootlickers.

I could not have said this better. As I had mentioned previously, there are multiple ways that the Bears can get this right (or wrong). Given our recent outcomes, I think that it’s perfectly reasonable to criticize the team and the executives for the current mess. But it also seems to me that people are more interested in talking about how we will fail and how badly Poles and Warren suck than talking abut the ways in which they could very well right this ship.

What are we doing here? I stated an opinion. I even stated that it was just my opinion. This front office has given me every reason to have that opinion. I'm not interested in talking about how we will fail. I'm interested in talking about how we have failed, how we have succeeded, how we can succeed, and how we might fail. Nothing is off the table for me, its not about hurting or catering to anyone's feelings.

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

Sure we do.I don’t think its overly depressing in here considering the circumstances. And I try to stay fairly positive, I do, but I’d like to give some constructive criticism too. Neither of us are right or wrong, we just have different opinions on how they go about their business. And it scares me that one of these Eberflus 2.0’s they are going to talk to might just say the right thing to sucker them. Poles loves to try and find those diamonds in the rough.

I'm not sure why posters seem to feel there's an actual definitive way to hire the proper coach. If there was a clear cut method, you wouldn't have multiple HC openings every single year. You're dealing with people here, everybody is different and each individual may bring a unique aspect that needs to be cultivated. To believe one approach is the only right approach is nonsensical. When initially evaluating prospective candidates, I don't want my interview team to have a defined set of guidelines. I want diversity, not a bunch of close-minded bootlickers.

The clear cut way is to hire who I want

Have I made it clear in any way who I want the Bears to hire as the head coach? Because I don't even have it narrowed down to one. All I know is I don't want another Eberflus tryout.

[Betta Bulleavit]

I'm not sure why posters seem to feel there's an actual definitive way to hire the proper coach. If there was a clear cut method, you wouldn't have multiple HC openings every single year. You're dealing with people here, everybody is different and each individual may bring a unique aspect that needs to be cultivated. To believe one approach is the only right approach is nonsensical. When initially evaluating prospective candidates, I don't want my interview team to have a defined set of guidelines. I want diversity, not a bunch of close-minded bootlickers.

The clear cut way is to hire who I want

Have I made it clear in any way who I want the Bears to hire as the head coach? Because I don't even have it narrowed down to one. All I know is I don't want another Eberflus tryout.

Understand that I’m not referring to you specifically, even though it was your post that I was replying to. I’m up for the criticism. But my position is this. I feel like Poles has done a decent to solid job of rebuilding the roster. Therefore, I do have a certain degree of faith that (given a real opportunity) he can find the right coach for HIS team. Having said that, his competence has been questioned. His professionalism has been questioned. His work ethic has been questioned. And I just don’t feel like that’s all fair.

Washington
GB (first game)
Detroit (Thanksgiving)

Those are 3 games that I think we can all agree should have gone in the win column for us and if they do, this team is 8-9 and right on schedule with what most of us would have expected for this season. But poor coaching and in-game management did us in and it had nothing to do with Poles or Warren. That’s MY reason for optimism.

[fleet]

There’s been reason for concern. But it’s like I said at the very beginning of my post. There will never be reason to believe that they will get it right UNTIL they actually get it right. But the constant pessimism an poo poo’ing on anyone that believes they can get it right has made the discussion (city wide) very depressing. I just happen to think that it’s okay to talk a little about how we can get it right. I also happen to think that getting it right might not look exactly like what the media thinks “right” is. In fact it seems like most media and fans aren’t even interested in talking about what getting it “right” would even look like.

Sure we do.I don’t think its overly depressing in here considering the circumstances. And I try to stay fairly positive, I do, but I’d like to give some constructive criticism too. Neither of us are right or wrong, we just have different opinions on how they go about their business. And it scares me that one of these Eberflus 2.0’s they are going to talk to might just say the right thing to sucker them. Poles loves to try and find those diamonds in the rough.

I'm not sure why posters seem to feel there's an actual definitive way to hire the proper coach. If there was a clear cut method, you wouldn't have multiple HC openings every single year. You're dealing with people here, everybody is different and each individual may bring a unique aspect that needs to be cultivated. To believe one approach is the only right approach is nonsensical. When initially evaluating prospective candidates, I don't want my interview team to have a defined set of guidelines. I want diversity, not a bunch of close-minded bootlickers.

George’s process of repeated failures is still intact. That is the only thing that approaches definitive. Which is the frustration. Nobody ever learns anything from failure. What was that definition of insanity again?

[IliketheBullsNBearstoo]

The clear cut way is to hire who I want

Have I made it clear in any way who I want the Bears to hire as the head coach? Because I don't even have it narrowed down to one. All I know is I don't want another Eberflus tryout.

Understand that I’m not referring to you specifically, even though it was your post that I was replying to. I’m up for the criticism. But my position is this. I feel like Poles has done a decent to solid job of rebuilding the roster. Therefore, I do have a certain degree of faith that (given a real opportunity) he can find the right coach for HIS team. Having said that, his competence has been questioned. His professionalism has been questioned. His work ethic has been questioned. And I just don’t feel like that’s all fair.

Washington
GB (first game)
Detroit (Thanksgiving)

Those are 3 games that I think we can all agree should have gone in the win column for us and if they do, this team is 8-9 and right on schedule with what most of us would have expected for this season. But poor coaching and in-game management did us in and it had nothing to do with Poles or Warren. That’s MY reason for optimism.

And that is great and I'm not saying fire Poles. But the things you have brought up in his defense are not changing how I feel about this coaching search. I guess I'll just wait and see. But if he hires another Eberflus. Fire his @$$

I am truly optimistic about this team. I don't think the sky is falling. I see the light at the end of the tunnel. Gotta stop running this team like a clown show though.

[Michael Jackson]

I’m not sure if you have ever recruited for a high profile position before. But it’s actually common to cast a wide net initially in order to boil it down to a group of candidates (usually 3-5) which will be the real contenders. Not only do you do this to make the search as thorough as possible, you are (indirectly) helping the more serious contenders by ensuring that they represent themselves to the highest degree knowing that they aren’t a shoe-in. Any prospective coach that is turned off by how many people we are interviewing should not be treated as a serious candidate.

I don't know if that is true. But I'm only stating my opinion on this process and it just looks like a guy that hasn't done any homework finally cramming for an exam.

Understood. I guess I just don’t read it that way. I think Poles realizes that this is a make or break move for him and wants to make sure that he’s not leaving any stones unturned. For all we know, Poles already has his short list of 3 guys but is interviewing more just in case those 3 guys don’t pan out for one reason or another. Either way, the I don’t think it hurts to know as much as possible about what options are out there.

I just hope they Dave McGinnis this thing!