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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#21 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:21 pm

Mr B wrote:There’s a chance Zac Taylor gets fired in Cincy. I’ve heard a lot of people complaining about the lack of creativity in his offense though.


Which would be REALLY dumb on their part although Mike Brown isn’t known for being a football savant. Their offense isn’t the problem save for needing some help on the O-Line. Their defense is flat putrid.
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Post#22 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:22 pm

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Yikes

Not gonna lie, I don't like this. We need to flush the coaching staff from top to bottom IMO.
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Post#23 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:24 pm

I don't understand, he is saying that MM's current contract is up on June 14th. But that the Cowboys only have 6 days to work out a deal? What is that about? Wouldn't they have all the way to June 14th to work out a deal?
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Post#24 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:30 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:I don't understand, he is saying that MM's current contract is up on June 14th. But that the Cowboys only have 6 days to work out a deal? What is that about? Wouldn't they have all the way to June 14th to work out a deal?


He misspoke. It’s up January 14.
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Post#25 » by Mr B » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:39 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:I don't understand, he is saying that MM's current contract is up on June 14th. But that the Cowboys only have 6 days to work out a deal? What is that about? Wouldn't they have all the way to June 14th to work out a deal?

Did I say June 14th? I did mean January 14th.
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Post#26 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:39 pm

The Dallas Morning News summed everything up perfectly…

https://archive.ph/5ETrA
What Cowboys’ denial of Bears’ interview request indicates for Mike McCarthy, Jerry Jones
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Post#27 » by Mr B » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:41 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:
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Yikes

Not gonna lie, I don't like this. We need to flush the coaching staff from top to bottom IMO.

You might want to get used to the idea that most of the coaching staff is coming back. I would say that includes Mike Zimmer too.

I know most on this board cannot stand MM but the fact is he is highly respected around the NFL (as is Zimmer). Like me and Otis were talking about, the real question is who will be the OC?
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Post#28 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:44 pm

Zimmer needs to go moreso than MM does. All of them need to go. We need a fresh slate, a new beginning. The players need that, a new mindset altogether.
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Post#29 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:52 pm

Actually if we are being realistic, and I have said this several times over the years. If this team is going to win a ring, it needs to be with an elite defense. Dak and the offense are "good" IMO, and they are good enough to win a ring IMO, but they are never going to be an elite level offense. They can be a top-10 offense, but never a #1 offense.

To win we need a top-3 defense. And take a ring like the Eli Giants did and they were never an elite offense either. Or Peyton with Denver, Flacco, Foles, etc. We just have to rely heavy on a great defense.

This season the wheels came completely off the defense. Most don't realize it but going from Quinn to Zimmer was actually a bigger difference to the outcome than going from Dak to Cooper Rush.
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Post#30 » by Mr B » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:52 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Zimmer needs to go moreso than MM does. All of them need to go. We need a fresh slate, a new beginning. The players need that, a new mindset altogether.

I agree with you but that’s not going to happen (more than likely). I will say that Zimmer got more out of the defense than I really expected he would this year. He had only 2 of “his guys” in Lindale Joseph and Hendricks. His defense did fairly well considering the players he had and considering the players he lost due to injury.

His defenses won’t be flashy like Quinn’s defenses were but they will stop the run.
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Post#31 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:59 pm

Dallas allowed 27.5 PPG this season. Only the Panthers were worse.

We had the 2nd worse defense in the NFL.

Our offense was also bad, but the defense was an elite dumpster fire.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#32 » by Cactus Jack » Wed Jan 8, 2025 5:16 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:Actually if we are being realistic, and I have said this several times over the years. If this team is going to win a ring, it needs to be with an elite defense. Dak and the offense are "good" IMO, and they are good enough to win a ring IMO, but they are never going to be an elite level offense. They can be a top-10 offense, but never a #1 offense.

To win we need a top-3 defense. And take a ring like the Eli Giants did and they were never an elite offense either. Or Peyton with Denver, Flacco, Foles, etc. We just have to rely heavy on a great defense.

This season the wheels came completely off the defense. Most don't realize it but going from Quinn to Zimmer was actually a bigger difference to the outcome than going from Dak to Cooper Rush.

I would agree.

Everyone falls in love with younger offensive coaches. Which is completely understandable. But you still need a very good to great defense to win.

Mahomes is great. But the Chiefs have won because they've had a top 5 defense.

It's also why I was a fan of Mike Macdonald being hired by the Hawks. A young, bright, defensive mind.

The team had one of the worst defenses under Carroll the last few years. But they were a top 10 defense with Macdonald in his first year. Despite having an offense that struggled to run the ball & control the clock.
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Post#33 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Jan 8, 2025 5:30 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Actually if we are being realistic, and I have said this several times over the years. If this team is going to win a ring, it needs to be with an elite defense. Dak and the offense are "good" IMO, and they are good enough to win a ring IMO, but they are never going to be an elite level offense. They can be a top-10 offense, but never a #1 offense.

To win we need a top-3 defense. And take a ring like the Eli Giants did and they were never an elite offense either. Or Peyton with Denver, Flacco, Foles, etc. We just have to rely heavy on a great defense.

This season the wheels came completely off the defense. Most don't realize it but going from Quinn to Zimmer was actually a bigger difference to the outcome than going from Dak to Cooper Rush.

I would agree.

Everyone falls in love with younger offensive coaches. Which is completely understandable. But you still need a very good to great defense to win.

Mahomes is great. But the Chiefs have won because they've had a top 5 defense.

It's also why I was a fan of Mike Macdonald being hired by the Hawks. A young, bright, defensive mind.

The team had one of the worst defenses under Carroll the last few years. But they were a top 10 defense with Macdonald in his first year. Despite having an offense that struggled to run the ball & control the clock.

Yeah all the best teams this season have a top defense. That is why Bo Nix is in the playoffs. It was always an underrated facet of the Belichick Patriots too. Those teams always had a very good defense, and then Brady and the offense got all the credit. Very similar to Mahomes and the Chiefs who are also very strong defensively.
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Post#34 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Jan 8, 2025 5:34 pm

You can even look at last year's playoffs. We all remember that as Dak throwing 2 INTs. But the reality is he also threw 3 TDs, and 400 yards, and we put up 32 points. We win that game with a defensive showing. Or a defense that just gives up 27.5 points (our average this year)

Teams win all the time with 2 INTs, that is never a deal breaker with a decent defense.
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Post#35 » by Mr B » Wed Jan 8, 2025 6:12 pm

Micah Prescott wrote:You can even look at last year's playoffs. We all remember that as Dak throwing 2 INTs. But the reality is he also threw 3 TDs, and 400 yards, and we put up 32 points. We win that game with a defensive showing. Or a defense that just gives up 27.5 points (our average this year)

Teams win all the time with 2 INTs, that is never a deal breaker with a decent defense.

Dak threw 3 TD’s in garbage time when the defense had backed off. That game was over when Dak threw the pick 6. He was shook after that and played like crap until the defense dialed back the pressure.

Other than that I agree with you that this team needs to improve on defense. I still think they are going to keep Zimmer. Jerry has a soft spot for former employees and I think he’s going to want Zimmer to redeem himself. I’m not saying that’s what I want, just that I believe that’s what Jerry will do.

We should be talking about what players Zimmer will want in the draft and what do they do with the #12 pick.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#36 » by Cactus Jack » Wed Jan 8, 2025 6:13 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:Actually if we are being realistic, and I have said this several times over the years. If this team is going to win a ring, it needs to be with an elite defense. Dak and the offense are "good" IMO, and they are good enough to win a ring IMO, but they are never going to be an elite level offense. They can be a top-10 offense, but never a #1 offense.

To win we need a top-3 defense. And take a ring like the Eli Giants did and they were never an elite offense either. Or Peyton with Denver, Flacco, Foles, etc. We just have to rely heavy on a great defense.

This season the wheels came completely off the defense. Most don't realize it but going from Quinn to Zimmer was actually a bigger difference to the outcome than going from Dak to Cooper Rush.

I would agree.

Everyone falls in love with younger offensive coaches. Which is completely understandable. But you still need a very good to great defense to win.

Mahomes is great. But the Chiefs have won because they've had a top 5 defense.

It's also why I was a fan of Mike Macdonald being hired by the Hawks. A young, bright, defensive mind.

The team had one of the worst defenses under Carroll the last few years. But they were a top 10 defense with Macdonald in his first year. Despite having an offense that struggled to run the ball & control the clock.

Yeah all the best teams this season have a top defense. That is why Bo Nix is in the playoffs. It was always an underrated facet of the Belichick Patriots too. Those teams always had a very good defense, and then Brady and the offense got all the credit. Very similar to Mahomes and the Chiefs who are also very strong defensively.

The best teams typically have a good defense & a good offensive line. Lions, Eagles, Chiefs.
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Post#37 » by Micah Prescott » Wed Jan 8, 2025 6:28 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:You can even look at last year's playoffs. We all remember that as Dak throwing 2 INTs. But the reality is he also threw 3 TDs, and 400 yards, and we put up 32 points. We win that game with a defensive showing. Or a defense that just gives up 27.5 points (our average this year)

Teams win all the time with 2 INTs, that is never a deal breaker with a decent defense.

Dak threw 3 TD’s in garbage time when the defense had backed off. That game was over when Dak threw the pick 6. He was shook after that and played like crap until the defense dialed back the pressure.

Other than that I agree with you that this team needs to improve on defense. I still think they are going to keep Zimmer. Jerry has a soft spot for former employees and I think he’s going to want Zimmer to redeem himself. I’m not saying that’s what I want, just that I believe that’s what Jerry will do.

We should be talking about what players Zimmer will want in the draft and what do they do with the #12 pick.

It was 20-0 when Dak threw the pick 6 and the entire reason he was forcing deep throws was because it was 20-0.

Anyway, pointless to debate that game now, but the defense was pure dog sh*t that game I think we can at least agree on that.

I fear you are correct about Zimmer. And we for sure need a defender. I think either LB or CB. No need for edge that early because I think we need to assume Parsons is staying. He has even stated he would play in Dallas for less, he wants to stay here.
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Post#38 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Jan 8, 2025 6:57 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:The best teams typically have a good defense & a good offensive line. Lions, Eagles, Chiefs.


Both of which will be needs for the Cowboys going into the draft & FA period - especially with the FA’s they stand to lose. It’s one more reason why I really don’t have a problem with McCarthy returning with a focus on rebuilding those two elements over the next couple of seasons.
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Re: 2025 Dallas Cowboys Off-Season 

Post#39 » by Mr B » Wed Jan 8, 2025 9:34 pm

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Micah Prescott wrote:
Cactus Jack wrote:I would agree.

Everyone falls in love with younger offensive coaches. Which is completely understandable. But you still need a very good to great defense to win.

Mahomes is great. But the Chiefs have won because they've had a top 5 defense.

It's also why I was a fan of Mike Macdonald being hired by the Hawks. A young, bright, defensive mind.

The team had one of the worst defenses under Carroll the last few years. But they were a top 10 defense with Macdonald in his first year. Despite having an offense that struggled to run the ball & control the clock.

Yeah all the best teams this season have a top defense. That is why Bo Nix is in the playoffs. It was always an underrated facet of the Belichick Patriots too. Those teams always had a very good defense, and then Brady and the offense got all the credit. Very similar to Mahomes and the Chiefs who are also very strong defensively.

The best teams typically have a good defense & a good offensive line. Lions, Eagles, Chiefs.

That why I think the Cowboys most important free agent that they need to resign is Brock Hoffman. He has the perfect attitude and work ethic (not to mention he’s good). The Cowboys OL and run game got better when he replaced Zack Martin in the lineup.
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Post#40 » by Otis Driftwood » Wed Jan 8, 2025 9:44 pm

Mr B wrote:That why I think the Cowboys most important free agent that they need to resign is Brock Hoffman. He has the perfect attitude and work ethic (not to mention he’s good). The Cowboys OL and run game got better when he replaced Zack Martin in the lineup.


He is at the very top of my “resign him” list...
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