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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#41 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:11 pm

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Still no excuse for hiring someone who you don’t trust to learn from their mistakes.


So you are saying based on what you saw this season, you were willing to give Sorenson another chance?


No, I’m saying why hire someone in the first place if you don’t trust them to do the job long term.


Do you think they hire someone expecting them to completely suck?

Not all hires go the way you want them to. Doubling down on a lost cause, is never a good idea.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#42 » by Big J » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:15 pm

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So you are saying based on what you saw this season, you were willing to give Sorenson another chance?


No, I’m saying why hire someone in the first place if you don’t trust them to do the job long term.


Do you think they hire someone expecting them to completely suck?

Not all hires go the way you want them to. Doubling down on a lost cause, is never a good idea.


If you are the person who hired the guy that is incompetent then you should be the one shouldering the blame.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#43 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 4:19 pm

Big J wrote:
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No, I’m saying why hire someone in the first place if you don’t trust them to do the job long term.


Do you think they hire someone expecting them to completely suck?

Not all hires go the way you want them to. Doubling down on a lost cause, is never a good idea.


If you are the person who hired the guy that is incompetent then you should be the one shouldering the blame.


Agreed.

However, that certainly doesn't mean a HC should keep a coordinator who was absolute trash and who's defense took a decisive step back across the board.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#44 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 5:02 pm

Report this morning states the 49ers are going to offer Saleh his old job back
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#45 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 6:27 pm

There is one good thing about having a bad season, and finishing last in the division. It makes the following year's schedule lighter, as outside of the division blocks, you get all the other last place teams.

Also, the division blocks has SF facing the NFC south, and AFC south. Both divisions are pretty weak, or at least have been.

Of course, this is just the on paper look before the offseason even begins. Some of these teams could look a lot different next season, and there usually seems to be a couple teams that rise up after a terrible year.

Still, right now next year's schedule is looking pretty favorable...


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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#46 » by RIPskaterdude » Wed Jan 8, 2025 7:39 pm

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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#47 » by RIPskaterdude » Wed Jan 8, 2025 8:02 pm

thesack12 wrote:There is one good thing about having a bad season, and finishing last in the division. It makes the following year's schedule lighter, as outside of the division blocks, you get all the other last place teams.

Also, the division blocks has SF facing the NFC south, and AFC south. Both divisions are pretty weak, or at least have been.

Of course, this is just the on paper look before the offseason even begins. Some of these teams could look a lot different next season, and there usually seems to be a couple teams that rise up after a terrible year.

Still, right now next year's schedule is looking pretty favorable...


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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#48 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 8:24 pm

Klint Kubiak named Offensive Coordinator. Not a major change but he could take some duties from Shanahan
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#49 » by RIPskaterdude » Wed Jan 8, 2025 8:56 pm

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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#50 » by 49er4life1979 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 8:57 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:Klint Kubiak named Offensive Coordinator. Not a major change but he could take some duties from Shanahan


I like this move. Someone for Shanahan to bounce ideas off of.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#51 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 9:57 pm

In today's presser, Kyle did confirm that Sorenson is a candidate for STC and Staley a candidate for DC.

Don't love hearing that. Hopefully its just coach speak, although admittedly I wouldn't be shocked if they give the STC role to Sorenson.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#52 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 9:59 pm

RIPskaterdude wrote:Interesting

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Hated that signing from jump street, and said as much at the time.

In previous years, SF got just as much (arguably more) production out of scrap heap free agents than they got out of Hargrave and his massive contract.

That said, if he wants to come back on a prove it type of cheap 1 year contract, I wouldn't mind that.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#53 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 10:02 pm

RIPskaterdude wrote:
thesack12 wrote:There is one good thing about having a bad season, and finishing last in the division. It makes the following year's schedule lighter, as outside of the division blocks, you get all the other last place teams.

Also, the division blocks has SF facing the NFC south, and AFC south. Both divisions are pretty weak, or at least have been.

Of course, this is just the on paper look before the offseason even begins. Some of these teams could look a lot different next season, and there usually seems to be a couple teams that rise up after a terrible year.

Still, right now next year's schedule is looking pretty favorable...


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What is the hardest team (as of today) on that schedule? Texans? Titans will have the #1 pick so they will be improved


Right now, yeah you gotta say Houston is the hardest team on that schedule.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#54 » by Pattersonca65 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 10:47 pm

thesack12 wrote:In today's presser, Kyle did confirm that Sorenson is a candidate for STC and Staley a candidate for DC.

Don't love hearing that. Hopefully its just coach speak, although admittedly I wouldn't be shocked if they give the STC role to Sorenson.


Was he asked about the Saleh rumor?
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#55 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 10:56 pm

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thesack12 wrote:In today's presser, Kyle did confirm that Sorenson is a candidate for STC and Staley a candidate for DC.

Don't love hearing that. Hopefully its just coach speak, although admittedly I wouldn't be shocked if they give the STC role to Sorenson.


Was he asked about the Saleh rumor?


I didn't actually listen to it, so I'm not sure. I'm just scouring around for nuggets that came out of it.

Here's a somewhat encouraging one

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Seem's like Kyle might be more receptive to evolving. Easy to say that in a post season presser, so we'll see. But for now, I'll take it as an encouraging statement.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#56 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 11:02 pm

In addition to the previously posted news that Hargrave will be released, here are a couple other personnel notes from the presser.

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Seems like its trending towards Greenlaw leaving. Although, I'd love to be wrong about that.

While he's coming off a severe injury and a lost season where he did not prove he was completely recovered, seems like he might find a soft market. Still, his track record is quite strong, so all it takes is one team to bank on his history and offer him a big contract, and he will walk.

For NFL standards, Greenlaw has not made very much money in his career. So I imagine his decision will be heavily financially based.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#57 » by Samurai » Wed Jan 8, 2025 11:29 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:Klint Kubiak named Offensive Coordinator. Not a major change but he could take some duties from Shanahan

Although Shanahan will still be the guy calling the plays. Our offense seemed to click the best between the 20-yard lines and then get stuck in the mud once we get in the red zone. Maybe Kyle should run the offense between the 20's and let Kubiak focus on the red zone; we have to find a way to score more points in those situations or the overall team success won't change.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#58 » by Samurai » Wed Jan 8, 2025 11:32 pm

Pattersonca65 wrote:Report this morning states the 49ers are going to offer Saleh his old job back

Saleh is also interviewing for the HC job with Jacksonville (he was their linebackers coach before coming to the Bay). Obviously if he gets a HC gig then we will need to pivot to a plan B.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#59 » by Samurai » Wed Jan 8, 2025 11:40 pm

thesack12 wrote:In addition to the previously posted news that Hargrave will be released, here are a couple other personnel notes from the presser.

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Seems like its trending towards Greenlaw leaving. Although, I'd love to be wrong about that.

While he's coming off a severe injury and a lost season where he did not prove he was completely recovered, seems like he might find a soft market. Still, his track record is quite strong, so all it takes is one team to bank on his history and offer him a big contract, and he will walk.

For NFL standards, Greenlaw has not made very much money in his career. So I imagine his decision will be heavily financially based.

I know Greenlaw is beginning to more resemble the Man of Kleenex than the Man of Steel, but I'd still rather put those valuable cap $$ in Dre than Deebo. Our defense looked better in that very short time Greenlaw was on the field than our offense looked with Deebo being a heavy participant. And unless I am really ignorant of basic biology, I don't see Deebo suddenly getting any younger next year. Seeing the (admittedly very) small sample size of Pearsall's improvement over the final two games, I'm more confident having Aiyuk, Jennings, and Pearsall as our receiving corps with CMC catching passes out of the backfield than our declining defense with Warner and a player-to-be-named later next to him.
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Re: 2025 OFFSEASON 

Post#60 » by thesack12 » Wed Jan 8, 2025 11:46 pm

Samurai wrote:
Pattersonca65 wrote:Klint Kubiak named Offensive Coordinator. Not a major change but he could take some duties from Shanahan

Although Shanahan will still be the guy calling the plays. Our offense seemed to click the best between the 20-yard lines and then get stuck in the mud once we get in the red zone. Maybe Kyle should run the offense between the 20's and let Kubiak focus on the red zone; we have to find a way to score more points in those situations or the overall team success won't change.


I'm not sure they will give Kubiak that specialized of a playcalling role, especially when that role would be very situationally important.

Kyle said Kubiak called the plays against Arizona, and they did move the ball pretty well especially considering the less than ideal personnel he had at his disposal. Would have looked a lot better if the QB didn't turn the ball over 3 times. But overall, you have to be encouraged with Kubiak's performance.

I also think its noteworthy that Kyle tabbed Kubiak as OC. He usually does not operate with an official OC. If I recall correctly, he only had an OC for 1 season during his entire SF tenure, and that was McDaniel.

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