2025 OFFSEASON

[thesack12]

In addition to the previously posted news that Hargrave will be released, here are a couple other personnel notes from the presser.

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Seems like its trending towards Greenlaw leaving. Although, I'd love to be wrong about that.

While he's coming off a severe injury and a lost season where he did not prove he was completely recovered, seems like he might find a soft market. Still, his track record is quite strong, so all it takes is one team to bank on his history and offer him a big contract, and he will walk.

For NFL standards, Greenlaw has not made very much money in his career. So I imagine his decision will be heavily financially based.

I know Greenlaw is beginning to more resemble the Man of Kleenex than the Man of Steel, but I'd still rather put those valuable cap $$ in Dre than Deebo. Our defense looked better in that very short time Greenlaw was on the field than our offense looked with Deebo being a heavy participant. And unless I am really ignorant of basic biology, I don't see Deebo suddenly getting any younger next year. Seeing the (admittedly very) small sample size of Pearsall's improvement over the final two games, I'm more confident having Aiyuk, Jennings, and Pearsall as our receiving corps with CMC catching passes out of the backfield than our declining defense with Warner and a player-to-be-named later next to him.

I generally agree with you here.

That said, Deebo's contract will be incorporated into the cap whether he's back next year or not. Actually I think he would have a substantially bigger cap hit if they release him. So its not really an either/or type of thing between Samuel and Greenlaw.

[thesack12]

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Good to hear that Trent is apparently fully on board to return, and unlike last season he seemingly will have a normal camp/preseason.

But man, he's getting old. He's still a very good player, but he's on the decline. 9ers seriously need to get a succession plan in place this offseason.

[Pattersonca65]

In addition to the previously posted news that Hargrave will be released, here are a couple other personnel notes from the presser.

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Seems like its trending towards Greenlaw leaving. Although, I'd love to be wrong about that.

While he's coming off a severe injury and a lost season where he did not prove he was completely recovered, seems like he might find a soft market. Still, his track record is quite strong, so all it takes is one team to bank on his history and offer him a big contract, and he will walk.

For NFL standards, Greenlaw has not made very much money in his career. So I imagine his decision will be heavily financially based.

I read through most of the transcript today. Sounds like KS had exit interviews with the players. The team wants Greenlaw back and he wants to come back. I guess it comes down to money and the 49ers having some doubt they will be able to retain him. Maybe the team told him that they are going to let him test the market. Maybe the team is concerned about giving him a big financial commitment given his injury history

[clyde21]

bringing Saleh back is the key this off-season, gotta make it happen, i'm way more concerned about the defense (and STs) than I am w/ the offense.

[arich35]

In today's presser, Kyle did confirm that Sorenson is a candidate for STC and Staley a candidate for DC.

Don't love hearing that. Hopefully its just coach speak, although admittedly I wouldn't be shocked if they give the STC role to Sorenson.

I listened to it. A reporter asked about internal guys they would look at for DC and he said he would give Staley an interview because he has been here.

Staley was the DC for the Rams in 2020 and they were pretty good so I wouldn't be totally opposed to him

[WentzerWuver]

Well on the flip side we could sign a competent mid tier free agent QB on the cheap like Minny did this year, and Purdy would be less likely to hold out in fear that he might lose his job if the team starts out strong.

Sure. That would be a reasonable move on our part to enhance our own bargaining position. Though I'm not sure many guys with starting potential are going to want to come here to compete with an established QB.

Then we should just trade for McCarthy or draft one.

Why should we trade for a bust?!? Just cause he has a strong arm is not a good reason otherwise we would have kept Trey.

https://youtu.be/oKnEsG-z04k?si=XkNG1Dy0uf-EqH25

Seems like a broken record with the same discussion. Keep Purdy under current contract for another season.

[WentzerWuver]

In addition to the previously posted news that Hargrave will be released, here are a couple other personnel notes from the presser.

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Seems like its trending towards Greenlaw leaving. Although, I'd love to be wrong about that.

While he's coming off a severe injury and a lost season where he did not prove he was completely recovered, seems like he might find a soft market. Still, his track record is quite strong, so all it takes is one team to bank on his history and offer him a big contract, and he will walk.

For NFL standards, Greenlaw has not made very much money in his career. So I imagine his decision will be heavily financially based.

I read through most of the transcript today. Sounds like KS had exit interviews with the players. The team wants Greenlaw back and he wants to come back. I guess it comes down to money and the 49ers having some doubt they will be able to retain him. Maybe the team told him that they are going to let him test the market. Maybe the team is concerned about giving him a big financial commitment given his injury history

They have enough money to retain Greenlaw as long as Purdy doesn't get his bag this off-season.

[thesack12]

In today's presser, Kyle did confirm that Sorenson is a candidate for STC and Staley a candidate for DC.

Don't love hearing that. Hopefully its just coach speak, although admittedly I wouldn't be shocked if they give the STC role to Sorenson.

I listened to it. A reporter asked about internal guys they would look at for DC and he said he would give Staley an interview because he has been here.

Staley was the DC for the Rams in 2020 and they were pretty good so I wouldn't be totally opposed to him

Staley's defenses with the Chargers weren't good. Those defenses were in the bottom 3rd of the league all 3 of his years there.

While you could argue since he was the HC there, he might not have been super hands on with the defense. However, we know he was having some say in SF's defense this year, and they were terrible across the board.

Put me down as a no, on Staley.

[49er4life1979]

In addition to the previously posted news that Hargrave will be released, here are a couple other personnel notes from the presser.

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Seems like its trending towards Greenlaw leaving. Although, I'd love to be wrong about that.

While he's coming off a severe injury and a lost season where he did not prove he was completely recovered, seems like he might find a soft market. Still, his track record is quite strong, so all it takes is one team to bank on his history and offer him a big contract, and he will walk.

For NFL standards, Greenlaw has not made very much money in his career. So I imagine his decision will be heavily financially based.

I can see Greenlaw coming back on a moderate short term deal. Not sure about Hufanga. They have Brown but he didnt have a good season in 2024 after being very solid as a rookie last year. So hopefully he turns it around.

[zman1]

In addition to the previously posted news that Hargrave will be released, here are a couple other personnel notes from the presser.

Read on Twitter

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Seems like its trending towards Greenlaw leaving. Although, I'd love to be wrong about that.

While he's coming off a severe injury and a lost season where he did not prove he was completely recovered, seems like he might find a soft market. Still, his track record is quite strong, so all it takes is one team to bank on his history and offer him a big contract, and he will walk.

For NFL standards, Greenlaw has not made very much money in his career. So I imagine his decision will be heavily financially based.

I read through most of the transcript today. Sounds like KS had exit interviews with the players. The team wants Greenlaw back and he wants to come back. I guess it comes down to money and the 49ers having some doubt they will be able to retain him. Maybe the team told him that they are going to let him test the market. Maybe the team is concerned about giving him a big financial commitment given his injury history

They have enough money to retain Greenlaw as long as Purdy doesn't get his bag this off-season.

Have you ever turned down "your bag" for the good of the boss or corporation? Didn't think so. Why shouldn't Purdy be paid what the market says he is worth?

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[Pattersonca65]

In addition to the previously posted news that Hargrave will be released, here are a couple other personnel notes from the presser.

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Seems like its trending towards Greenlaw leaving. Although, I'd love to be wrong about that.

While he's coming off a severe injury and a lost season where he did not prove he was completely recovered, seems like he might find a soft market. Still, his track record is quite strong, so all it takes is one team to bank on his history and offer him a big contract, and he will walk.

For NFL standards, Greenlaw has not made very much money in his career. So I imagine his decision will be heavily financially based.

I read through most of the transcript today. Sounds like KS had exit interviews with the players. The team wants Greenlaw back and he wants to come back. I guess it comes down to money and the 49ers having some doubt they will be able to retain him. Maybe the team told him that they are going to let him test the market. Maybe the team is concerned about giving him a big financial commitment given his injury history

They have enough money to retain Greenlaw as long as Purdy doesn't get his bag this off-season.

It isn't a question about having enough. It is about how much do they want to commit to him. He has been a great player for SF when he is on the field but he has missed a lot of time during his tenure in SF to injuries and he is coming off of an achillies tear. The 49ers have already been burned on committing a lot of cap space to players who are injured. If some team wants to give Greenlaw top linebacker money, they might be hesitant to commit that

[Pattersonca65]

Report this morning is if Saleh does not receive a head coaching offer this offseason he is on board to coming back to SF as DC. Even if he gets an offer from Jacksonville, he ought to think long and hard about being an HC under Baalke.

[Pattersonca65]

Sure. That would be a reasonable move on our part to enhance our own bargaining position. Though I'm not sure many guys with starting potential are going to want to come here to compete with an established QB.

Then we should just trade for McCarthy or draft one.

Why should we trade for a bust?!? Just cause he has a strong arm is not a good reason otherwise we would have kept Trey.

https://youtu.be/oKnEsG-z04k?si=XkNG1Dy0uf-EqH25

Seems like a broken record with the same discussion. Keep Purdy under current contract for another season.

There are some red flags here. He does have some bad Trey Lance traits in him.

While McCarthy flashes a strong for an arm, he battles inconsistencies with ball placement, often forcing his pass-catchers to adjust mid-route, inhibiting YAC potential.
When airing it out, he struggles with touch and loft, rather than just relying on his arm strength. This sometimes gives DBs (defensive backs) a window to make a play on the ball.
On tape, against TCU, he's shown a glaring deficiency in throws to the boundary on the right side, hinting at a potential mechanical flaw in his release or footwork.
His dropbacks sometimes lack the crispness and rhythm, causing him to telegraph throws, especially on out routes, giving corners a jump on the ball.
Physique-wise, he sports a wiry frame that might raise eyebrows about his ability to take NFL-caliber hits, especially between the tackles or on scrambles.
His pocket presence needs refinement; while he’s got the wheels to extend plays, he tends to bail from clean pockets rather than stepping up and navigating the pocket with poise.
His football IQ, while promising, showcases a rawness in reading complex defensive schemes and disguises, a red flag when projecting against NFL defenses.
Ball velocity is a strength, but he often lasers passes when a softer touch is needed, particularly against layered zone coverages or when dropping it in the bucket over linebackers and in front of safeties.
As he heads to the pro level, diversifying his route tree and demonstrating a consistent ability to progress through reads will be paramount.
His pre-snap diagnostics show room for growth; recognizing blitz packages, adjusting protections, and hot-routing will be crucial in the faster-paced, more intricate NFL defensive schemes.

[WentzerWuver]

I read through most of the transcript today. Sounds like KS had exit interviews with the players. The team wants Greenlaw back and he wants to come back. I guess it comes down to money and the 49ers having some doubt they will be able to retain him. Maybe the team told him that they are going to let him test the market. Maybe the team is concerned about giving him a big financial commitment given his injury history

They have enough money to retain Greenlaw as long as Purdy doesn't get his bag this off-season.

Have you ever turned down "your bag" for the good of the boss or corporation? Didn't think so. Why shouldn't Purdy be paid what the market says he is worth?

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I have never been offered a bag, so I wouldn't know if I would or not when someone is more deserving than me should get his bag to stay otherwise he would leave that hinder our chances to win the SB. I always believe in the greater good than being selfish, if that is what you are implying.

[Big J]

I read through most of the transcript today. Sounds like KS had exit interviews with the players. The team wants Greenlaw back and he wants to come back. I guess it comes down to money and the 49ers having some doubt they will be able to retain him. Maybe the team told him that they are going to let him test the market. Maybe the team is concerned about giving him a big financial commitment given his injury history

They have enough money to retain Greenlaw as long as Purdy doesn't get his bag this off-season.

Have you ever turned down "your bag" for the good of the boss or corporation? Didn't think so. Why shouldn't Purdy be paid what the market says he is worth?

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There is zero chance any team besides the Niners is paying him big money. He’s worth way more in our system than anywhere else.

[zman1]

They have enough money to retain Greenlaw as long as Purdy doesn't get his bag this off-season.

Have you ever turned down "your bag" for the good of the boss or corporation? Didn't think so. Why shouldn't Purdy be paid what the market says he is worth?

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I have never been offered a bag, so I wouldn't know if I would or not when someone is more deserving than me should get his bag to stay otherwise he would leave that hinder our chances to win the SB. I always believe in the greater good than being selfish, if that is what you are implying.

You have never been offered a raise? That would weird but who knows.

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[WentzerWuver]

Then we should just trade for McCarthy or draft one.

Why should we trade for a bust?!? Just cause he has a strong arm is not a good reason otherwise we would have kept Trey.

https://youtu.be/oKnEsG-z04k?si=XkNG1Dy0uf-EqH25

Seems like a broken record with the same discussion. Keep Purdy under current contract for another season.

There are some red flags here. He does have some bad Trey Lance traits in him.

While McCarthy flashes a strong for an arm, he battles inconsistencies with ball placement, often forcing his pass-catchers to adjust mid-route, inhibiting YAC potential.
When airing it out, he struggles with touch and loft, rather than just relying on his arm strength. This sometimes gives DBs (defensive backs) a window to make a play on the ball.
On tape, against TCU, he's shown a glaring deficiency in throws to the boundary on the right side, hinting at a potential mechanical flaw in his release or footwork.
His dropbacks sometimes lack the crispness and rhythm, causing him to telegraph throws, especially on out routes, giving corners a jump on the ball.
Physique-wise, he sports a wiry frame that might raise eyebrows about his ability to take NFL-caliber hits, especially between the tackles or on scrambles.
His pocket presence needs refinement; while he’s got the wheels to extend plays, he tends to bail from clean pockets rather than stepping up and navigating the pocket with poise.
His football IQ, while promising, showcases a rawness in reading complex defensive schemes and disguises, a red flag when projecting against NFL defenses.
Ball velocity is a strength, but he often lasers passes when a softer touch is needed, particularly against layered zone coverages or when dropping it in the bucket over linebackers and in front of safeties.
As he heads to the pro level, diversifying his route tree and demonstrating a consistent ability to progress through reads will be paramount.
His pre-snap diagnostics show room for growth; recognizing blitz packages, adjusting protections, and hot-routing will be crucial in the faster-paced, more intricate NFL defensive schemes.

Well since retread QB is on the rise now, especially if they spent time with our QB guru, I would trade for strong arm Zach Wilson instead since it would take much less to optain him.

https://youtu.be/Q6cpu3Rk1co?si=jGXZEpLzfEdcrsmZ

If our guru can turn a ghost passer game around after so many years of failure, we should venture that path again rather than overpay this off-season. If it wasn't for Kyle, Purdy would still be a nobody in the NFL right now.

https://youtu.be/EW697mLDJQ4?si=emeWUqoEu25cR0hQ

Avoid Pickett as he is a lost cause trying to run this offense consistently unless you want to watch Kyle pulls his air out in frustration. Anyone who can't play for Tomlin has issues.

https://youtube.com/shorts/FU1j0C0VVu8?si=Ie4Ac9cIJc8d5qYi

[Big J]

Why should we trade for a bust?!? Just cause he has a strong arm is not a good reason otherwise we would have kept Trey.

https://youtu.be/oKnEsG-z04k?si=XkNG1Dy0uf-EqH25

Seems like a broken record with the same discussion. Keep Purdy under current contract for another season.

There are some red flags here. He does have some bad Trey Lance traits in him.

While McCarthy flashes a strong for an arm, he battles inconsistencies with ball placement, often forcing his pass-catchers to adjust mid-route, inhibiting YAC potential.
When airing it out, he struggles with touch and loft, rather than just relying on his arm strength. This sometimes gives DBs (defensive backs) a window to make a play on the ball.
On tape, against TCU, he's shown a glaring deficiency in throws to the boundary on the right side, hinting at a potential mechanical flaw in his release or footwork.
His dropbacks sometimes lack the crispness and rhythm, causing him to telegraph throws, especially on out routes, giving corners a jump on the ball.
Physique-wise, he sports a wiry frame that might raise eyebrows about his ability to take NFL-caliber hits, especially between the tackles or on scrambles.
His pocket presence needs refinement; while he’s got the wheels to extend plays, he tends to bail from clean pockets rather than stepping up and navigating the pocket with poise.
His football IQ, while promising, showcases a rawness in reading complex defensive schemes and disguises, a red flag when projecting against NFL defenses.
Ball velocity is a strength, but he often lasers passes when a softer touch is needed, particularly against layered zone coverages or when dropping it in the bucket over linebackers and in front of safeties.
As he heads to the pro level, diversifying his route tree and demonstrating a consistent ability to progress through reads will be paramount.
His pre-snap diagnostics show room for growth; recognizing blitz packages, adjusting protections, and hot-routing will be crucial in the faster-paced, more intricate NFL defensive schemes.

Well since retread QB is on the rise now, especially if they spent time with our QB guru, I would trade for strong arm Zach Wilson instead since it would take less to optain him.

If our guru can turn a ghost passer game around after so many years of failure, we should venture that path again rather than overpay this off-season. If it wasn't for Kyle, Purdy would still be a nobody in the NFL right now.

https://youtu.be/Q6cpu3Rk1co?si=jGXZEpLzfEdcrsmZ

Avoid Pickett as he is a lost cause trying to run this offense consistently unless you want to watch Kyle pulls his air out in frustration. Anyone who can't play for Tomlin has issues.

https://youtube.com/shorts/FU1j0C0VVu8?si=Ie4Ac9cIJc8d5qYi

Kyle could easily do something similar to what Minny did with Darnold with Wilson.

[WentzerWuver]

Kyle could easily do something similar to what Minny did with Darnold with Wilson.

If it wasn't for Kyle changing Darnold's play running our offense, I doubt the Vikings would have even given him that chance to begin with. I know I wouldn't.

https://youtu.be/EW697mLDJQ4?si=BW107lyfJe7_WI0M

[Pattersonca65]

There are some red flags here. He does have some bad Trey Lance traits in him.

While McCarthy flashes a strong for an arm, he battles inconsistencies with ball placement, often forcing his pass-catchers to adjust mid-route, inhibiting YAC potential.
When airing it out, he struggles with touch and loft, rather than just relying on his arm strength. This sometimes gives DBs (defensive backs) a window to make a play on the ball.
On tape, against TCU, he's shown a glaring deficiency in throws to the boundary on the right side, hinting at a potential mechanical flaw in his release or footwork.
His dropbacks sometimes lack the crispness and rhythm, causing him to telegraph throws, especially on out routes, giving corners a jump on the ball.
Physique-wise, he sports a wiry frame that might raise eyebrows about his ability to take NFL-caliber hits, especially between the tackles or on scrambles.
His pocket presence needs refinement; while he’s got the wheels to extend plays, he tends to bail from clean pockets rather than stepping up and navigating the pocket with poise.
His football IQ, while promising, showcases a rawness in reading complex defensive schemes and disguises, a red flag when projecting against NFL defenses.
Ball velocity is a strength, but he often lasers passes when a softer touch is needed, particularly against layered zone coverages or when dropping it in the bucket over linebackers and in front of safeties.
As he heads to the pro level, diversifying his route tree and demonstrating a consistent ability to progress through reads will be paramount.
His pre-snap diagnostics show room for growth; recognizing blitz packages, adjusting protections, and hot-routing will be crucial in the faster-paced, more intricate NFL defensive schemes.

Well since retread QB is on the rise now, especially if they spent time with our QB guru, I would trade for strong arm Zach Wilson instead since it would take less to optain him.

If our guru can turn a ghost passer game around after so many years of failure, we should venture that path again rather than overpay this off-season. If it wasn't for Kyle, Purdy would still be a nobody in the NFL right now.

https://youtu.be/Q6cpu3Rk1co?si=jGXZEpLzfEdcrsmZ

Avoid Pickett as he is a lost cause trying to run this offense consistently unless you want to watch Kyle pulls his air out in frustration. Anyone who can't play for Tomlin has issues.

https://youtube.com/shorts/FU1j0C0VVu8?si=Ie4Ac9cIJc8d5qYi

Kyle could easily do something similar to what Minny did with Darnold with Wilson.

Often those are traits that can't be fixed out of people. Nothing is easy. We don't know about what was fixed with Darnold, There are already doubts starting to creep in Minny about him.