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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#661 » by shrink » Wed Jan 8, 2025 3:40 am

TheZachAttack wrote:The Wolves have the second most wins against .500 or better teams in the league (15-9) and the 4th best winning percentage. They are behind OKC in wins and OKC/Boston/Cleveland in winning percentage against teams above .500.

In addition, we have played the most games and the highest percentage of our schedule in the NBA thus far against teams above .500 (24 games out of our 35 games played). In addition, teams in front of us like the Rockets and Memphis have only played 20 and 16 games against teams above .500 respectively. Teams like Boston and Cleveland have only played 14 and 16 games.

The Wolves have gotten up for tough competition for three years, and stunk against bad teams for just as long. Facing more bad teams for the remainder of the schedule would be a boon for most playoff contenders, it isn’t necessarily true for the Wolves!

Still, we will soon see bad teams intentionally trying to lose, since the draft is so loaded this year.

We are still in good shape, despite ourselves.
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#662 » by Klomp » Wed Jan 8, 2025 9:32 pm

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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#663 » by winforlose » Wed Jan 8, 2025 11:11 pm

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It gets even funnier when you factor in this was the back end of a back to back. The Pels REALLY suck this year.
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#664 » by TimberKat » Wed Jan 8, 2025 11:58 pm

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It gets even funnier when you factor in this was the back end of a back to back. The Pels REALLY suck this year.

It gets more funnier when Timberwolves shot >50%, >50%, >90% vs Celtics. They are 0-1 in those games according to Google. Shooting is overrated :lol:
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#665 » by winforlose » Thu Jan 9, 2025 12:16 am

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It gets even funnier when you factor in this was the back end of a back to back. The Pels REALLY suck this year.

It gets more funnier when Timberwolves shot >50%, >50%, >90% vs Celtics. They are 0-1 in those games according to Google. Shooting is overrated :lol:


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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#666 » by Klomp » Thu Jan 9, 2025 7:32 pm

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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#667 » by Klomp » Thu Jan 9, 2025 7:46 pm

Timberwolves franchise career 3-pointers made
1. Karl-Anthony Towns 975
2. Anthony Edwards 943

Why is that? For as efficient as Towns was and is, he always lacked the volume. KAT's career-high in a season is 150 made 3-pointers. Ant already has 154 this season.
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#668 » by TheZachAttack » Thu Jan 9, 2025 8:24 pm

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TheZachAttack wrote:The Wolves have the second most wins against .500 or better teams in the league (15-9) and the 4th best winning percentage. They are behind OKC in wins and OKC/Boston/Cleveland in winning percentage against teams above .500.

In addition, we have played the most games and the highest percentage of our schedule in the NBA thus far against teams above .500 (24 games out of our 35 games played). In addition, teams in front of us like the Rockets and Memphis have only played 20 and 16 games against teams above .500 respectively. Teams like Boston and Cleveland have only played 14 and 16 games.

The Wolves have gotten up for tough competition for three years, and stunk against bad teams for just as long. Facing more bad teams for the remainder of the schedule would be a boon for most playoff contenders, it isn’t necessarily true for the Wolves!

Still, we will soon see bad teams intentionally trying to lose, since the draft is so loaded this year.

We are still in good shape, despite ourselves.


Yes, in fact the Wolves winning percentage against teams over .500 is actually better than last year (just barely) but still.
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#669 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Jan 9, 2025 8:35 pm

TheZachAttack wrote:The Wolves have the second most wins against .500 or better teams in the league (15-9) and the 4th best winning percentage. They are behind OKC in wins and OKC/Boston/Cleveland in winning percentage against teams above .500. In addition, we have played the most games and the highest percentage of our schedule in the NBA thus far against teams above .500 (24 games out of our 35 games played). In addition, teams in front of us like the Rockets and Memphis have only played 20 and 16 games against teams above .500 respectively. Teams like Boston and Cleveland have only played 14 and 16 games.


Where is this from?

ESPN has us at 9-12 vs Teams over .500 and 10-5 against Teams below .500.

https://www.espn.com/nba/standings/_/view/expanded
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#670 » by Klomp » Thu Jan 9, 2025 8:57 pm

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TheZachAttack wrote:The Wolves have the second most wins against .500 or better teams in the league (15-9) and the 4th best winning percentage. They are behind OKC in wins and OKC/Boston/Cleveland in winning percentage against teams above .500. In addition, we have played the most games and the highest percentage of our schedule in the NBA thus far against teams above .500 (24 games out of our 35 games played). In addition, teams in front of us like the Rockets and Memphis have only played 20 and 16 games against teams above .500 respectively. Teams like Boston and Cleveland have only played 14 and 16 games.


Where is this from?

ESPN has us at 9-12 vs Teams over .500 and 10-5 against Teams below .500.

https://www.espn.com/nba/standings/_/view/expanded

Looks like an outdated stat. Take the last sentence about Boston and Cleveland: They have played 19 and 24 of these games, respectively.

Also possible it's simply a discrepancy between teams above .500 currently or just above .500 when the game was played.
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#671 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Jan 9, 2025 9:04 pm

Klomp wrote:
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TheZachAttack wrote:The Wolves have the second most wins against .500 or better teams in the league (15-9) and the 4th best winning percentage. They are behind OKC in wins and OKC/Boston/Cleveland in winning percentage against teams above .500. In addition, we have played the most games and the highest percentage of our schedule in the NBA thus far against teams above .500 (24 games out of our 35 games played). In addition, teams in front of us like the Rockets and Memphis have only played 20 and 16 games against teams above .500 respectively. Teams like Boston and Cleveland have only played 14 and 16 games.


Where is this from?

ESPN has us at 9-12 vs Teams over .500 and 10-5 against Teams below .500.

https://www.espn.com/nba/standings/_/view/expanded

Looks like an outdated stat. Take the last sentence about Boston and Cleveland: They have played 19 and 24 of these games, respectively.

Also possible it's simply a discrepancy between teams above .500 currently or just above .500 when the game was played.


It can't be THAT outdated. We've played 36 games. In his stat, we were at 35.

And in his stat we have 15 wins against above .500 teams. In the span of 1 game, 6 of the teams we beat dropped below .500?
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#672 » by Klomp » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:17 pm

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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#673 » by TheZachAttack » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:32 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
TheZachAttack wrote:The Wolves have the second most wins against .500 or better teams in the league (15-9) and the 4th best winning percentage. They are behind OKC in wins and OKC/Boston/Cleveland in winning percentage against teams above .500. In addition, we have played the most games and the highest percentage of our schedule in the NBA thus far against teams above .500 (24 games out of our 35 games played). In addition, teams in front of us like the Rockets and Memphis have only played 20 and 16 games against teams above .500 respectively. Teams like Boston and Cleveland have only played 14 and 16 games.


Where is this from?

ESPN has us at 9-12 vs Teams over .500 and 10-5 against Teams below .500.

https://www.espn.com/nba/standings/_/view/expanded


ESPN but maybe things are changing with the amount of teams right near .500. I guess the general point being this number is probably not something we can rely on. Just as an example, at the time I think Golden State was below .500 (now they are above) and we've lost multiple times to them. Spurs were above .500 and we've beat them 2-3 times.
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#674 » by TheZachAttack » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:35 pm

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Klomp wrote:
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Where is this from?

ESPN has us at 9-12 vs Teams over .500 and 10-5 against Teams below .500.

https://www.espn.com/nba/standings/_/view/expanded

Looks like an outdated stat. Take the last sentence about Boston and Cleveland: They have played 19 and 24 of these games, respectively.

Also possible it's simply a discrepancy between teams above .500 currently or just above .500 when the game was played.


It can't be THAT outdated. We've played 36 games. In his stat, we were at 35.

And in his stat we have 15 wins against above .500 teams. In the span of 1 game, 6 of the teams we beat dropped below .500?


I wish I would have taken a screenshot. That's what it was. I think Golden State and the Spurs swapped spots from below .500 and above .500 which would hurt us. It can be both ways.
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#675 » by shrink » Tue Jan 14, 2025 5:01 pm

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Post#676 » by frankenwolf » Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:23 pm

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Post#677 » by Note30 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:49 pm

Klomp wrote:Timberwolves franchise career 3-pointers made
1. Karl-Anthony Towns 975
2. Anthony Edwards 943

Why is that? For as efficient as Towns was and is, he always lacked the volume. KAT's career-high in a season is 150 made 3-pointers. Ant already has 154 this season.


Is this actually a question? One guy can dance with the ball and pop it, the other guy most catches and shoots, or is catching centers off a missed rotation.
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#678 » by winforlose » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:14 pm

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Klomp wrote:Timberwolves franchise career 3-pointers made
1. Karl-Anthony Towns 975
2. Anthony Edwards 943

Why is that? For as efficient as Towns was and is, he always lacked the volume. KAT's career-high in a season is 150 made 3-pointers. Ant already has 154 this season.


Is this actually a question? One guy can dance with the ball and pop it, the other guy most catches and shoots, or is catching centers off a missed rotation.


There are a lot of factors. The game changed quite a bit with the GSW rise and dynasty. 3 point shots are the money ball of the NBA. Karl spent his younger years not being encouraged to have that volume. Also Karl spent the last few years deferring to Ant and trying to accommodate Rudy. That meant Karl had a lower shot volume. Also remember that KAT has been hurt a lot and that meant coming back from injury and spending time finding his rhythm which can take a while for shooters. It doesn’t seem like it should be true, but when you factor in all the variables and differences between the two, the picture starts to emerge.
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#679 » by Klomp » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:20 pm

winforlose wrote:
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Klomp wrote:Timberwolves franchise career 3-pointers made
1. Karl-Anthony Towns 975
2. Anthony Edwards 943

Why is that? For as efficient as Towns was and is, he always lacked the volume. KAT's career-high in a season is 150 made 3-pointers. Ant already has 154 this season.


Is this actually a question? One guy can dance with the ball and pop it, the other guy most catches and shoots, or is catching centers off a missed rotation.


There are a lot of factors. The game changed quite a bit with the GSW rise and dynasty. 3 point shots are the money ball of the NBA. Karl spent his younger years not being encouraged to have that volume. Also Karl spent the last few years deferring to Ant and trying to accommodate Rudy. That meant Karl had a lower shot volume. Also remember that KAT has been hurt a lot and that meant coming back from injury and spending time finding his rhythm which can take a while for shooters. It doesn’t seem like it should be true, but when you factor in all the variables and differences between the two, the picture starts to emerge.

So what's KAT's excuse this year? Because he currently has his lowest rate of volume since 2018-19. No more Ant or Rudy or injuries to blame.
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Re: Fun facts and unreal stats 

Post#680 » by winforlose » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:22 pm

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Is this actually a question? One guy can dance with the ball and pop it, the other guy most catches and shoots, or is catching centers off a missed rotation.


There are a lot of factors. The game changed quite a bit with the GSW rise and dynasty. 3 point shots are the money ball of the NBA. Karl spent his younger years not being encouraged to have that volume. Also Karl spent the last few years deferring to Ant and trying to accommodate Rudy. That meant Karl had a lower shot volume. Also remember that KAT has been hurt a lot and that meant coming back from injury and spending time finding his rhythm which can take a while for shooters. It doesn’t seem like it should be true, but when you factor in all the variables and differences between the two, the picture starts to emerge.

So what's KAT's excuse this year? Because he currently has his lowest rate of volume since 2018-19. No more Ant or Rudy or injuries to blame.


Combination of Thibs, role, and team composition. Karl is still not the #1 option, if he shooting 3s there isn’t a lot of size for offensive rebounding. Also I watched the Knicks play last week and they said they are one of the lowest 3 point shooting teams in the league. 4th highest in make rate, but near the bottom in volume.

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