2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4

twix2500 · Post #21 » by **twix2500** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:31 pm

Jaime been improving defensively the past two games. He is getting himself in better position and making defensive plays. He is the Heat’s point guard on offense. Bam needs to get Jaquez and gain some chemistry. It’s time for Bam to catch and shoot more often.

twix2500 · Post #22 » by **twix2500** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:37 pm

How would you feel about a starting lineup of

PG: Jaquez
SF: Herro
SF: Highsmith
PF: Cam Johnson
Ce: Adebayo

Beenie · Post #23 » by **Beenie** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:42 pm

twix2500 wrote:How would you feel about a starting lineup of

PG: Jaquez
SF: Herro
SF: Highsmith
PF: Cam Johnson
Ce: Adebayo

If its one or the other, I'd prefer a trade for a proper ball handling guard over another wing/PF.

Jaquez is not a real answer for Mia as a primary handler; dribbles too high and loose and doesnt make quick enough decisions.

Post #24 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:45 pm

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Beenie · Post #25 » by **Beenie** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:49 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:

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Jimmy a lifer?

contract · Post #26 » by **contract** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:53 pm

twix2500 wrote:How would you feel about a starting lineup of

PG: Jaquez
SF: Herro
SF: Highsmith
PF: Cam Johnson
Ce: Adebayo

Never mind how I feel about it, how are we going to get him?

jbsays · Post #27 » by **jbsays** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:57 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Hoops3355 wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:

I felt like he was being sarcastic with the obsession follow up comment. Pat ain't washed he's just got too much pride to actually tank.

He’s washed bro lol his failure to maximize the Jimmy window despite being 1 shot away from 3 finals trips in 5 years despite a horrible roster is one of the worst jobs we’ve seen

I disagree with this premise. Butler has only made it to the Conference Finals 3x and each of it was with the Heat. Butler is a good player, but we're not talking a Lebron level talent who was able to carry a team to to the Conference Finals every year. Butler had more team success with the Heat than he did with the three other organizations he played with prior.

Pokuokic · Post #28 » by **Pokuokic** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:59 pm

I cant see a single trade for Terry he's a win now player who does not help you win and makes huge money

Post #29 » by **MettaWorldPanda** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:00 pm

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twozeroMM · Post #30 » by **twozeroMM** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:10 pm

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At this point I don't think he even cares if these type of things hurt him or not. The team and others are seeing this type of stuff and I'm sure don't care for it.

Lennyzinho · Post #31 » by **Lennyzinho** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:17 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:

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Comparing the pistons to the hornets is kinda effed up but I get it. I'm also not sure the pistons want Beal at all. They have tons of connections but... they'd need to send our Tobias Harris and Hardaway which are two starters for beal (to aggregate salaries and get close to outgoing salaries due to cba). I think under old rules, if they could be like hey. Yea we prefer Beal and a SRP over hardaway. Sure. But sending out Tobias also they'd just lose too much depth and hurt their chances of making playoffs this year which they clearly very much want.

Catch22. Beal wants a contender and if pistons keep winning they won't want Beal to affect their team. And if they keep losing and want to build for next year then Beal won't want to go there. Id consider Detroit dead unfortunately. Lakers were THE trading partner before D'Angelo trade. I can't think of any team that is competing and thinks Beal would help them and fit timeline outside of Lakers.

League needs to come out and reprimand Jimmy same way they did dame. Accept a trade anywhere. And ship him to Memphis or Houston. That's the only way.

al bondiga · Post #32 » by **al bondiga** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:17 pm

MettaWorldPanda wrote:

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When did jb Say this.
Is he crazy?
Or or doesn't he want to get paid?

Because they say his coffee sucks And I have heard from people who know what they're talking about.

twix2500 · Post #33 » by **twix2500** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:18 pm

contract wrote:
twix2500 wrote:How would you feel about a starting lineup of

PG: Jaquez
SF: Herro
SF: Highsmith
PF: Cam Johnson
Ce: Adebayo

Never mind how I feel about it, how are we going to get him?

Well it all depends on if the Heat can move Butler. Moving forward the Heat needs to build around Triple J, Herro and Bam as starters and Jovic as your Kukoc. I think there is a path to build a roster that will make Jaquez close to averaging a triple double.

contract · Post #34 » by **contract** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:18 pm

jbsays wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Hoops3355 wrote:
I felt like he was being sarcastic with the obsession follow up comment. Pat ain't washed he's just got too much pride to actually tank.

He’s washed bro lol his failure to maximize the Jimmy window despite being 1 shot away from 3 finals trips in 5 years despite a horrible roster is one of the worst jobs we’ve seen

I disagree with this premise. Butler has only made it to the Conference Finals 3x and each of it was with the Heat. Butler is a good player, but we're not talking a Lebron level talent who was able to carry a team to to the Conference Finals every year. Butler had more team success with the Heat than he did with the three other organizations he played with prior.

Our last trip to the Finals had us leaning heavily on Gabe Vincent, Caleb Martin, Max Strus, and Kyle Lowry. Most of the rest of our playoff rotation was Duncan Robinson and Kevin Love. That's two used to bes and a bunch of never weres.

Aside from Jimmy and Bam, the talent on the roster was marginal starter/bench caliber.

Jimmy didn't carry us like Lebron carried the Cavs, but he didn't have much talent around him either.

contract · Post #35 » by **contract** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:23 pm

Pokuokic wrote:I cant see a single trade for Terry he's a win now player who does not help you win and makes huge money

I still can't believe we made that trade. :banghead:

AirP. · Post #36 » by **AirP.** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:27 pm

Lennyzinho wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:

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That don't look good butttt....

Suns won tonight. Beal led team in scoring with 25. They mightve found something with this Beal 6th man thing they got going.

They are 2-1 since he was benched. And their next 4 games are jazz hornets hawks wiz. They win all those vs non playoff teams and maybe they drink the Kool aid and think they figured out the issue.

He's been doing this when one of Booker or KD have been out of the lineup. It's really hard to be a scorer when you have 2 volume scorers on the court with you most of the time, moving him to the bench is the most logical situation, he gets to be the #1 or #2 option more of the time on the court.

contract · Post #37 » by **contract** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:32 pm

Lennyzinho wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:

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Comparing the pistons to the hornets is kinda effed up but I get it. I'm also not sure the pistons want Beal at all. They have tons of connections but... they'd need to send our Tobias Harris and Hardaway which are two starters for beal (to aggregate salaries and get close to outgoing salaries due to cba). I think under old rules, if they could be like hey. Yea we prefer Beal and a SRP over hardaway. Sure. But sending out Tobias also they'd just lose too much depth and hurt their chances of making playoffs this year which they clearly very much want.

Catch22. Beal wants a contender and if pistons keep winning they won't want Beal to affect their team. And if they keep losing and want to build for next year then Beal won't want to go there. Id consider Detroit dead unfortunately. Lakers were THE trading partner before D'Angelo trade. I can't think of any team that is competing and thinks Beal would help them and fit timeline outside of Lakers.

League needs to come out and reprimand Jimmy same way they did dame. Accept a trade anywhere. And ship him to Memphis or Houston. That's the only way.

I'm not sure what Jimmy and his agent are doing because I'm just not following that stuff, but Jimmy can't stop a trade. The problem is that teams are going to want to know what they are getting, and Jimmy's player option is a monkey wrench.

A team that wants to keep him is going to want assurances that he will exercise his player option or agree to an extension. Jimmy doesn't have to commit to either.

A team that only wants Jimmy as a rental is going to want assurances that Jimmy won't exercise his player option for next season. Jimmy doesn't have to make that commitment either.

So the question becomes ... who wants to trade for a 35 year old hand grenade who acts out when he's unhappy?

If he or his agent are really telling teams "don't trade for me" or "I won't play for you" or something along those lines, then Jimmy could and should get hammered by the NBA. But if he's just refusing to give teams any guarantees about what he plans to do about his player option, there's nothing the NBA can do about that.

contract · Post #38 » by **contract** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:34 pm

AirP. wrote:
Lennyzinho wrote:
MettaWorldPanda wrote:

Read on Twitter

That don't look good butttt....

Suns won tonight. Beal led team in scoring with 25. They mightve found something with this Beal 6th man thing they got going.

They are 2-1 since he was benched. And their next 4 games are jazz hornets hawks wiz. They win all those vs non playoff teams and maybe they drink the Kool aid and think they figured out the issue.

He's been doing this when one of Booker or KD have been out of the lineup. It's really hard to be a scorer when you have 2 volume scorers on the court with you most of the time, moving him to the bench is the most logical situation, he gets to be the #1 or #2 option more of the time on the court.

Spreading the offensive firepower should also help the team. That's something we used to understand.

twix2500 · Post #39 » by **twix2500** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:45 pm

twix2500 wrote:
contract wrote:
twix2500 wrote:How would you feel about a starting lineup of

PG: Jaquez
SF: Herro
SF: Highsmith
PF: Cam Johnson
Ce: Adebayo

Never mind how I feel about it, how are we going to get him?

Well it all depends on if the Heat can move Butler. Moving forward the Heat needs to build around Triple J, Herro and Bam as starters and Jovic as your Kukoc. I think there is a path to build a roster that will make Jaquez close to averaging a triple double.

Triple J the past three games
18 pts, 7.3 rbs, 6.0 ast, 40 3p%, 1.3 stls, 1.3 TO (4.62 ast/to ratio)
Look at that assist to turnover ratio!!
Perfection!!

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #40 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:57 pm

I see feelings were hurt last night and the Pat brigade banded together :lol:

I don’t see how anyone can look over his tenure since getting Jimmy and say he did a great job and did the most he could to win us a championship, that is just insane fuxking delusion and no it has nothing to do with Bam stop being idiots you little culture vultures.