2025 NBA Draft Thread, part 1 – Capture the Flagg

[165bows]

Apparently Jase Richardson is Jason Richardson’s son. I had no idea.

Indeed. Unfortunately Jase isn't as tall or athletic as his dad. But he is a good shooter..

Very fair argument Jase is having a much better freshman season than his dad tho.

[djFan71]

I'm becoming slightly intrigued by Darrion Williams. Strong/long 6'6" with good, switchable D without fouling. Some passing and good 3 pt shooting on decent number of attempts. Would be great if we had a lower 2nd, but don't think I'd go for him at 31.

Yeah he's really been playing well lately. Some of his stats this season really jump off the page.

Of course, he is an older prospect though so often times their stats are better. And the main drawback with Darrion is the lack of athleticism. Just doesn't really look like an NBA athlete. But Boston has had success in recent years with turning guys who are limited in terms of some of their physical tools into good role players off the bench (Kornet, Hauser, Pritchard, etc.).

So he is worth keeping an eye on for sure. Especially since we went for a couple of older guys last draft.

Agree that 31 is probably too high. But honestly, anywhere after 35 I think it's reasonable to take Darrion. Watching him closely to see if he can sustain this level of play he's been showing this season so far.

What he lacks in athleticism, foot speed and also not great height for a wing, he seems to make up for with skill, craft, basketball IQ, and competitiveness. Kind of like Pritchard except taller and slower..

Yeah, athleticism is weird. He seems to keep up on switches and has strength, but almost pops off the screen with his weird gate / slowness sometimes. I think I'd want to use him in a Grant/PJ Tucker type role and take advantage of him guarding up a little.

Agree that late 30s is where this draft seems to fall off a touch to a next tier down - at least in my naive eval so far.

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I'm becoming slightly intrigued by Darrion Williams. Strong/long 6'6" with good, switchable D without fouling. Some passing and good 3 pt shooting on decent number of attempts. Would be great if we had a lower 2nd, but don't think I'd go for him at 31.

Yeah he's really been playing well lately. Some of his stats this season really jump off the page.

Of course, he is an older prospect though so often times their stats are better. And the main drawback with Darrion is the lack of athleticism. Just doesn't really look like an NBA athlete. But Boston has had success in recent years with turning guys who are limited in terms of some of their physical tools into good role players off the bench (Kornet, Hauser, Pritchard, etc.).

So he is worth keeping an eye on for sure. Especially since we went for a couple of older guys last draft.

Agree that 31 is probably too high. But honestly, anywhere after 35 I think it's reasonable to take Darrion. Watching him closely to see if he can sustain this level of play he's been showing this season so far.

What he lacks in athleticism, foot speed and also not great height for a wing, he seems to make up for with skill, craft, basketball IQ, and competitiveness. Kind of like Pritchard except taller and slower..

Yeah, athleticism is weird. He seems to keep up on switches and has strength, but almost pops off the screen with his weird gate / slowness sometimes. I think I'd want to use him in a Grant/PJ Tucker type role and take advantage of him guarding up a little.

Agree that late 30s is where this draft seems to fall off a touch to a next tier down - at least in my naive eval so far.

Yeah he's kind of a mix between Pritchard, Grant and Hauser..of course Brad probably loves him and will draft him haha.

[redslastlaugh]

So if Thomas Sorber is mocked in the second round, this is a pretty damn deep draft right? I can’t recall really liking so many guys in the 25-45 range.

Man, I’m thinking similarly. I was looking at Wasserman BR mock and was thinking, there are a ton of interesting prospects in this draft, and I’m talking guys with a reasonable chance of going in the 30s. And you look at JT being 26 and JB being 28, and we’ve already banked a banner, and now nailing these picks is gonna be big for the 2nd run with the jays when they’re 29 and 31. Gonna be a fun draft cycle!

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Just looked up Joan Beringer. Has somewhere between a 7'3"- 7'5" wingpsan, so of course, I'm in.
And, he's French, so you can't go wrong at this point. Traore and Beringer, lol. Smart2Nesmith will be in heaven.

No way Traoré drops to Boston. NBA front offices aren't that stupid. Right ? I talked about Beringer briefly here: https://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2395219&p=115777606&hilit=beringer#p115777606.

Vive l'incompétence?

I assume Beringer would be a stash for a year or so if we took him at 31? Or do you think he'd come over next season even?

He is nowhere near ready for NBA minutes so a stash could make sense but I have a feeling that whomever they pick they would want to get to Maine and control their development.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

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I wouldn't mind the Celtics taking a chance on that kid.

[redslastlaugh]

Houston has Phoenix pick
Right now, Golden State is in the lottery

If HOU or GSW winds up with #1 overall, is JB for Cooper Flagg in play?

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I wouldn't mind the Celtics taking a chance on that kid.

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Houston has Phoenix pick
Right now, Golden State is in the lottery

If HOU or GSW winds up with #1 overall, is JB for Cooper Flagg in play?

Watch on YouTube

I wouldn't mind the Celtics taking a chance on that kid.

There's no way any team is trading Cooper Flagg for Jaylen Brown.

[redslastlaugh]

If Golden State misses the playoffs and Curry says, “one last run” … in that scenario, it could be possible

[165bows]

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I wouldn't mind the Celtics taking a chance on that kid.

Four years of a rookie deal, three more years before his first option year hits- does that keep it in JT’s window or nah?!?

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If Golden State misses the playoffs and Curry says, “one last run” … in that scenario, it could be possible

It doesn't matter what Steph says. He's not making the trades.

The Warriors front office knows better than to do a move like that.

Besides, if the warriors were going to make a move like that, they would have done it by now. But they drafted Wiseman at 2, then Moody and Kuminga in the lottery. They could've traded any of those picks for win-now vets but didn't do it. They could've traded the 19th pick a couple yrs ago for a win now vet but they kept the pick and drafted Podziemski..

[165bows]

I'm becoming slightly intrigued by Darrion Williams. Strong/long 6'6" with good, switchable D without fouling. Some passing and good 3 pt shooting on decent number of attempts. Would be great if we had a lower 2nd, but don't think I'd go for him at 31.

Yeah I like the look of this guy - poor man's Jimmy Butler possibility imo. That type of versatility has looked pretty valuable even without any 3PT shooting, and Williams might have a little bit.

[threrf23]

I'm becoming slightly intrigued by Darrion Williams. Strong/long 6'6" with good, switchable D without fouling. Some passing and good 3 pt shooting on decent number of attempts. Would be great if we had a lower 2nd, but don't think I'd go for him at 31.

I like him from a statistical standpoint; he's a 21 y/o junior, but I like his freshman stats (which I tend to think are most telling even for a four year guy) and he has shown natural progression from there.

If I'm nitpicking, he shot 46% inside the arc, on low quantities as a freshman and maybe that speaks to his tweener-ish status. IMO a player's ability to score inside is often indicative of their ability to assert themselves against pro competition. But rebounding, foul efficiency, A/TO ratio especially have all been upper tier.

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Yeah, Darrion def seems like a "Brad guy". If he declares for the draft, I'd be pretty surprised if we don't at least bring him in for a workout.

[redslastlaugh]

I’ve only glanced at YouTube but he doesn’t look quick or explosive, maybe like a cross between Dillon Jones and Spencer Dinwiddie.

Yeah, Darrion def seems like a "Brad guy". If he declares for the draft, I'd be pretty surprised if we don't at least bring him in for a workout.

[redslastlaugh]

Miles Byrd, a 6-7 guard from SDSU is putting up some Derrick White levels of stocks this year.

Derrick had a steal rate of 2.2% with a block rate of 4.9% as a senior at Colorado. Byrd over his two seasons has a steal rate of 3.5% and a block rate of 4.5%… so I’m intrigued. Byrd has been showing up in mock drafts in the 30s with more regularity of late

[shackles10]

Miles Byrd, a 6-7 guard from SDSU is putting up some Derrick White levels of stocks this year.

Derrick had a steal rate of 2.2% with a block rate of 4.9% as a senior at Colorado. Byrd over his two seasons has a steal rate of 3.5% and a block rate of 4.5%… so I’m intrigued. Byrd has been showing up in mock drafts in the 30s with more regularity of late

Ok but how's his hairline and is he willing to brew local ales??

[redslastlaugh]

Miles Byrd, a 6-7 guard from SDSU is putting up some Derrick White levels of stocks this year.

Derrick had a steal rate of 2.2% with a block rate of 4.9% as a senior at Colorado. Byrd over his two seasons has a steal rate of 3.5% and a block rate of 4.5%… so I’m intrigued. Byrd has been showing up in mock drafts in the 30s with more regularity of late

Ok but how's his hairline and is he willing to brew local ales??

Elite hair, lol

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[165bows]

I'm becoming slightly intrigued by Darrion Williams. Strong/long 6'6" with good, switchable D without fouling. Some passing and good 3 pt shooting on decent number of attempts. Would be great if we had a lower 2nd, but don't think I'd go for him at 31.

I like him from a statistical standpoint; he's a 21 y/o junior, but I like his freshman stats (which I tend to think are most telling even for a four year guy) and he has shown natural progression from there.

If I'm nitpicking, he shot 46% inside the arc, on low quantities as a freshman and maybe that speaks to his tweener-ish status. IMO a player's ability to score inside is often indicative of their ability to assert themselves against pro competition. But rebounding, foul efficiency, A/TO ratio especially have all been upper tier.

It's become an under rated element imo, in terms of assessing prospects. That's the interesting thing is his 2PTA volume has gone way up and he has a sort of Butler aspect to it from what I've seen - more of a face up from the FT line, or back a guy down quickly from the wing type of array rather than a slasher. But also very good passing numbers with it as well plus the frame makes the real similarity in play style between the two.

[Smart2Nesmith43]

Miles Byrd, a 6-7 guard from SDSU is putting up some Derrick White levels of stocks this year.

Derrick had a steal rate of 2.2% with a block rate of 4.9% as a senior at Colorado. Byrd over his two seasons has a steal rate of 3.5% and a block rate of 4.5%… so I’m intrigued. Byrd has been showing up in mock drafts in the 30s with more regularity of late

At least, the Celtics have had success drafting a guy with a similar name in the past.