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2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4

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Post#41 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:59 pm

jbsays wrote:
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Hoops3355 wrote:
I felt like he was being sarcastic with the obsession follow up comment. Pat ain't washed he's just got too much pride to actually tank.


He’s washed bro lol his failure to maximize the Jimmy window despite being 1 shot away from 3 finals trips in 5 years despite a horrible roster is one of the worst jobs we’ve seen


I disagree with this premise. Butler has only made it to the Conference Finals 3x and each of it was with the Heat. Butler is a good player, but we're not talking a Lebron level talent who was able to carry a team to to the Conference Finals every year. Butler had more team success with the Heat than he did with the three other organizations he played with prior.


So you believe wholeheartedly that Pat did everything he could to get us a championship in the Jimmy tenure? Stop
It, it has nothing to do with what he did prior in his career either. The roster overall has been trash talent and construction wise. There’s no denying that
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Post#42 » by MiamiLoyal926 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:02 pm

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Pokuokic wrote:I cant see a single trade for Terry he's a win now player who does not help you win and makes huge money

I still can't believe we made that trade. :banghead:


I agree with you… that trade is looking really bad today.

With that being said, damn if you do, damn if you don’t. That was a trade many celebrated and were begging for back then. It rid us of Lowry’s toxic behind and got us what had been a very productive player in his previous team. All for a protected pick. So many complain about Riley not making moves for the Jimmy window, but also complain about moves he does make. All trades that favor us will cost us future assets and flexibility. Guess when we are going to complain about those trades? Later… when we no longer need said player but do need said assets and flexibility… especially if they don’t pan out like Terry and Dipo. This board is always looking to quickly ship out our future for the present… well Terry and Lowry are both examples of how that does not often pan out.

Beal is an example of that for the Suns. Paul George is an example of that for the Clippers. KG and PP is an example of that for the Nets.

You also do have the success stories, like the Celtics and their bargain finds last season. Kawhi and the Raptors, Birdman and the Heat, even Crowder/Iggy with the Heat.

All I am trying to say is that we can criticize all we want, but at the end of the day, none of you have to carry the burden or criticism of all your imaginary trades.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4 

Post#43 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:03 pm

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Looks like they should’ve muted the old man’s mic at the press conference
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They can't bring him back to the team otherwise its gonna be Jimmy throwing passive aggressive shots at Riley and Spo. If they got no choice but to bring him back then they have to excuse him from the media post game interviews for the rest of the season.
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Post#45 » by Dmcdani6 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:57 pm

Id be a bit nervous about Jimmy opting in, and extending this Heat drama. Of course he becomes a big expiring, but he cant really be dumb enough to think hes gonna get 50+ on the open market this upcoming season? Right?

Riley shouldve said that **** to his face and not on national TV. I guess were still learning as we get into the twilight years as well.
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Post#46 » by SoFlaKingReal » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:07 pm

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Looks like they should’ve muted the old man’s mic at the press conference


Whose gonna mute Jimmy's mic? I know his dumbass agent wont.
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Post#47 » by Hoops3355 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:14 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
jbsays wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
He’s washed bro lol his failure to maximize the Jimmy window despite being 1 shot away from 3 finals trips in 5 years despite a horrible roster is one of the worst jobs we’ve seen


I disagree with this premise. Butler has only made it to the Conference Finals 3x and each of it was with the Heat. Butler is a good player, but we're not talking a Lebron level talent who was able to carry a team to to the Conference Finals every year. Butler had more team success with the Heat than he did with the three other organizations he played with prior.


So you believe wholeheartedly that Pat did everything he could to get us a championship in the Jimmy tenure? Stop
It, it has nothing to do with what he did prior in his career either. The roster overall has been trash talent and construction wise. There’s no denying that



No, but I think he saw the way the future of the league was trending and decided that Jimmy was a bridge after Lowry's wheels fell off and Duncan/ internal growth was slow. Riley's was right but the timeline didn't work out. There's a lot of good talent on the squad and you have 1 shot at adding whatever piece you can you gotta take that. I also think that he probably believed Jimmy would see how we treated UD and taken that route in 2026 but clearly not the case there.


If Jimmy so serious about his game why is he not bombing 5 3ps a game over the last 6 seasons instead of not doing it. There's a chance that he's banging them in at a good clip at this point and his role change extends his career instead we got limited lift Jimmy who refused to get better for 6 season (his hand cooked lol)
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Post#48 » by twix2500 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:16 pm

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They can't bring him back to the team otherwise its gonna be Jimmy throwing passive aggressive shots at Riley and Spo. If they got no choice but to bring him back then they have to excuse him from the media post game interviews for the rest of the season.


What Butler says from here on out is irrelevant. The team is in rebuild development mode. Butler just still looking for attention and praying for someone to pay him 121 mill the next 2 yrs. His agenda is pointless right now
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Post#49 » by Lennyzinho » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:17 pm

Dmcdani6 wrote:Id be a bit nervous about Jimmy opting in, and extending this Heat drama. Of course he becomes a big expiring, but he cant really be dumb enough to think hes gonna get 50+ on the open market this upcoming season? Right?

Riley shouldve said that **** to his face and not on national TV. I guess were still learning as we get into the twilight years as well.


If this drama doesn't resolve itself by end of trade deadline, he will 100% opt into his option.

But we will have a much easier time trading him in offseason. Why? Because I guarantee you he will be open to going anywhere and playing hard and competing. Why? Because he will be playing for his next contract or for an extension with whichever team he went to. And he's not gonna want to throw another year away for his career and legacy etc.

What contending teams DONT want this season? They don't want drama. An unhappy Jimmy packing it in because he doesn't want to get hurt or bitter about not getting an extension. Last thing Memphis or Houston wants is to trade for Jimmy, he half asses it, they lost assets or depth to get him... they underperform. And then in offseason he opts in, and their relationship is soured.

So. I think Beal trade is dead. No one wants him unless he waives his NTC. And i think no one wants Jimmy unless they get word from him and agent that he's serious and gonna ball out for them and committed.
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Post#50 » by Hoops3355 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:19 pm

Once the NBA and NBAPA see his next blow out there's going to be a conversation and he's gonna end up in Detroit via Pat Riley special.

Pat is gonna make sure he can't get paid.
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Post#51 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:22 pm

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Looks like they should’ve muted the old man’s mic at the press conference


Whose gonna mute Jimmy's mic? I know his dumbass agent wont.


If he’s going to keep taking us to the finals despite a terrible roster who cares
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Post#52 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:25 pm

Hoops3355 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
jbsays wrote:
I disagree with this premise. Butler has only made it to the Conference Finals 3x and each of it was with the Heat. Butler is a good player, but we're not talking a Lebron level talent who was able to carry a team to to the Conference Finals every year. Butler had more team success with the Heat than he did with the three other organizations he played with prior.


So you believe wholeheartedly that Pat did everything he could to get us a championship in the Jimmy tenure? Stop
It, it has nothing to do with what he did prior in his career either. The roster overall has been trash talent and construction wise. There’s no denying that



No, but I think he saw the way the future of the league was trending and decided that Jimmy was a bridge after Lowry's wheels fell off and Duncan/ internal growth was slow. Riley's was right but the timeline didn't work out. There's a lot of good talent on the squad and you have 1 shot at adding whatever piece you can you gotta take that. I also think that he probably believed Jimmy would see how we treated UD and taken that route in 2026 but clearly not the case there.


If Jimmy so serious about his game why is he not bombing 5 3ps a game over the last 6 seasons instead of not doing it. There's a chance that he's banging them in at a good clip at this point and his role change extends his career instead we got limited lift Jimmy who refused to get better for 6 season (his hand cooked lol)


Huh lol? Remove the games he checked out instantly due to 2 different injuries and he’s having just as good if not better of a season this year as the others in a Heat jersey and that’s with a drop in usage and shot attempts to compensate for a roster full of offense only players
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Post#53 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:28 pm

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Jimmys all over the place right now lol
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Post#54 » by Rapaz » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:32 pm

Pat Riley is trying to help that man lower his child support payments by not giving him an extension.
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Post#55 » by Enso » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:40 pm

Lmao 3 kids and he’s playing the I’m not married card.

1 you can get away with it but 3 lol that would be considered common law marriage where I live if you live with someone for more than a year.
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Post#56 » by Johnny Fontane » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:44 pm

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contract wrote:
Pokuokic wrote:I cant see a single trade for Terry he's a win now player who does not help you win and makes huge money

I still can't believe we made that trade. :banghead:


I agree with you… that trade is looking really bad today.

With that being said, damn if you do, damn if you don’t. That was a trade many celebrated and were begging for back then. It rid us of Lowry’s toxic behind and got us what had been a very productive player in his previous team. All for a protected pick. So many complain about Riley not making moves for the Jimmy window, but also complain about moves he does make. All trades that favor us will cost us future assets and flexibility. Guess when we are going to complain about those trades? Later… when we no longer need said player but do need said assets and flexibility… especially if they don’t pan out like Terry and Dipo. This board is always looking to quickly ship out our future for the present… well Terry and Lowry are both examples of how that does not often pan out.

Beal is an example of that for the Suns. Paul George is an example of that for the Clippers. KG and PP is an example of that for the Nets.

You also do have the success stories, like the Celtics and their bargain finds last season. Kawhi and the Raptors, Birdman and the Heat, even Crowder/Iggy with the Heat.

All I am trying to say is that we can criticize all we want, but at the end of the day, none of you have to carry the burden or criticism of all your imaginary trades.


It’s Jimmy’s fault for the entire Lowry then Rozier fiasco. Teams should never take input on personnel decisions from players IMO
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Post#57 » by SoFlaKingReal » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:45 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
Looks like they should’ve muted the old man’s mic at the press conference


Whose gonna mute Jimmy's mic? I know his dumbass agent wont.


If he’s going to keep taking us to the finals despite a terrible roster who cares


Those weren’t “terrible rosters”, especially the bubble team. You can keep saying that, but it’s not true. What they lacked in superstar talent was made up for with depth and chemistry.
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Post#58 » by twix2500 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:49 pm

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Jimmys all over the place right now lol


Well I started to talk about his thot life in a previous post and how he missed games and practices because of thot issue. But I thought it was inappropriate. I figure some of this stuff was gonna start coming out eventually
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Post#59 » by twix2500 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:50 pm

SoFlaKingReal wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
SoFlaKingReal wrote:
Whose gonna mute Jimmy's mic? I know his dumbass agent wont.


If he’s going to keep taking us to the finals despite a terrible roster who cares


Those weren’t “terrible rosters”, especially the bubble team. You can keep saying that, but it’s not true. What they lacked in superstar talent was made up for with depth and chemistry.


Only terrible roster was the team lead by Strus
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Post#60 » by twix2500 » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:54 pm

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twix2500 wrote:How would you feel about a starting lineup of

PG: Jaquez
SF: Herro
SF: Highsmith
PF: Cam Johnson
Ce: Adebayo


If its one or the other, I'd prefer a trade for a proper ball handling guard over another wing/PF.

Jaquez is not a real answer for Mia as a primary handler; dribbles too high and loose and doesnt make quick enough decisions.
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