small nets and lakers

shagadelic45 · Post #1 » by **shagadelic45** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 1:59 pm

bky trades: sharpe

lal trades: jhs, 2 seconds

nets pick up a couple picks and take a look at a young guard that fits their rebuild

lakers get much needed frontcourt help

drchaos · Post #2 » by **drchaos** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:30 pm

Brooklyn might prefer a pick swap to the second rounders.

Lakers pick is likely to be better than Knicks or Rockets pick.

We like Sharpe but the pick swap might be the right bait.

SkyHook · Post #3 » by **SkyHook** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 2:59 pm

shagadelic45 wrote:bky trades: sharpe

lal trades: jhs, 2 seconds

nets pick up a couple picks and take a look at a young guard that fits their rebuild

lakers get much needed frontcourt help

It's probably in the ballpark. Nice.

JKiddy · Post #4 » by **JKiddy** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:11 pm

JHS has zero value at this moment other than an expiring. I think it would take a 1st swap and 2nd with JHS to even have the Nets call LAL back.

psman2 · Post #5 » by **psman2** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 3:54 pm

I think this is more than enough for Sharpe. 1st round swap asks are silly here.

drchaos · Post #6 » by **drchaos** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:05 pm

psman2 wrote:I think this is more than enough for Sharpe. 1st round swap asks are silly here.

Moving up a few spots in the bottom half of the first round is too much to ask for a promising young player?

Post #7 » by **Texas Chuck** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:08 pm

I just can't with the asks in all the Nets threads. Doesn't matter how cheap their better players have gone, we won't stop demanding value our players just don't have.

At some point what is the point here? You realize you aren't actually negotiating real world deals right?

DNP-Old · Post #8 » by **DNP-Old** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 4:13 pm

Doesn't Sharpe make a little more than JHS? Can LAL take more salary back in a trade?

shagadelic45 · Post #9 » by **shagadelic45** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 6:48 pm

psman2 wrote:I think this is more than enough for Sharpe. 1st round swap asks are silly here.

yea, a swap might be too much value...

psman2 · Post #10 » by **psman2** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:36 pm

drchaos wrote:
psman2 wrote:I think this is more than enough for Sharpe. 1st round swap asks are silly here.

Moving up a few spots in the bottom half of the first round is too much to ask for a promising young player?

Yes. Please find my the last half season of expiring backup center that average 13.6 minute for his career garnered that much value. Plus the Lakers do not even own their 1st this year to swap with, but if they did there is no gtd that it would only be a few spots regardless. You have to be realistic of what players like this garner in a trade.

drchaos · Post #11 » by **drchaos** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:41 pm

psman2 wrote:
drchaos wrote:
psman2 wrote:I think this is more than enough for Sharpe. 1st round swap asks are silly here.

Moving up a few spots in the bottom half of the first round is too much to ask for a promising young player?

Yes. Please find my the last half season of expiring backup center that average 13.6 minute for his career garnered that much value. Plus the Lakers do not even own their 1st this year to swap with, but if they did their is no gtd that it would only be a few spots regardless. You have to be realistic of what players like this garner in a trade.

Hold the phone.

Not expiring UFA, expiring RFA.

The Nets have the right to match.

psman2 · Post #12 » by **psman2** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 7:43 pm

drchaos wrote:
psman2 wrote:
drchaos wrote:
Moving up a few spots in the bottom half of the first round is too much to ask for a promising young player?

Yes. Please find my the last half season of expiring backup center that average 13.6 minute for his career garnered that much value. Plus the Lakers do not even own their 1st this year to swap with, but if they did there is no gtd that it would only be a few spots regardless. You have to be realistic of what players like this garner in a trade.

Hold the phone.

Not expiring UFA, expiring RFA.

The Nets have the right to match.

I didn't say UFA, why am I holding the phone? I am fully aware he is RFA.

drchaos · Post #13 » by **drchaos** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:04 pm

psman2 wrote:
drchaos wrote:
psman2 wrote:
Yes. Please find my the last half season of expiring backup center that average 13.6 minute for his career garnered that much value. Plus the Lakers do not even own their 1st this year to swap with, but if they did there is no gtd that it would only be a few spots regardless. You have to be realistic of what players like this garner in a trade.

Hold the phone.

Not expiring UFA, expiring RFA.

The Nets have the right to match.

I didn't say UFA, why am I holding the phone? I am fully aware he is RFA.

Right now the difference between the Knicks pick and the Laker pick is a whopping five spots.

I am not expecting to get a first round pick for the guy but you need to understand that the Nets have their own aspirations for the future and are not just a farm team.

Depending on what happens with Claxton DFS could be the Nets backup center for quite some time.

They like the guy and I have heard no reports about him being shopped.

I really don't understand how a valuable rotation player on a rookie contract is treated like a throw in.

JKiddy · Post #14 » by **JKiddy** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:23 pm

We do not expect much but a few spot swap when you are taking a player that is not even an NBA graded player and giving away your valuable future Center (depending on Claxton) it is not that large of an ask. No one asked for a 1st, it was a minor swap in whatever year.

No one watches the Nets games and we understand that. But, we have a plan to compete in 2 years. We have no use for garbage we don't currently own now. We want to INCREASE TALENT quickly. JHS is a flop and I feel bad for the guy. I hope he turns it around. But, the Lakers told him to fk off and I think they did him kind of dirty. It has eroded all confidence he had. He might not be washed up. But, his value is the lowest a player can be now. Sharpe is on the rise. He didn't play much because of Claxton. Now, the Nets have to decide what they want to do over the next month or half a year.

psman2 · Post #15 » by **psman2** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:28 pm

drchaos wrote:
psman2 wrote:
drchaos wrote:
Hold the phone.

Not expiring UFA, expiring RFA.

The Nets have the right to match.

I didn't say UFA, why am I holding the phone? I am fully aware he is RFA.

Right now the difference between the Knicks pick and the Laker pick is a whopping five spots.

I am not expecting to get a first round pick for the guy but you need to understand that the Nets have their own aspirations for the future and are not just a farm team.

Depending on what happens with Claxton DFS could be the Nets backup center for quite some time.

They like the guy and I have heard no reports about him being shopped.

I really don't understand how a valuable rotation player on a rookie contract is treated like a throw in.

Again the Lakers don't have their pick this year so no point even discussing it. And even did have it there is no GTD it would end up being 5 spots, and even if was GTD five spot then Sharpe likely doesn't pull that value. Maybe if you had traded him at the beginning of the season then maybe some team would have paid more to see if there was more progression and to have him in their system for a full year.

No one is questioning that if the Nets don't trade him, he will likely be resigned and continue to be Claxton's backup. Nets have to decide if they want to trade him for his value now or hope to resign him in the offseason. No one is telling you the Nets have to take this deal, just stating that if a trade went done then something very similar to the OP would be the return. This is not a throw in value, this is what teams pay for players like this.

The farm team comment is just odd, the Nets are rebuilding and have already sold several players off, it is natural extension that they likely continue to evaluate offers on all their players and decide if they should trade them or not.

jayjaysee · Post #16 » by **jayjaysee** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 8:29 pm

Lakers need to send another salary out.

Lakers don’t own a 2025 first and Sharpe isn’t worth a future swap considering Brooklyn isn’t taking bad money back here.

drchaos · Post #17 » by **drchaos** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 9:51 pm

My bad, I was talking about a 2025 swap thinking the Lakers controlled their pick for some reason.

If the Nets already have the best second rounders the Lakers had I am not sure the remaining ones are good enough to land Sharpe.

BigGargamel · Post #18 » by **BigGargamel** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:04 pm

At what point, how many picks are too many picks? Especially second rounders. Didn't they just get a few from this same team in the Finney Smith trade? Do the Lakers even have any more 2nd rounders? They'll probably just end up selling those 2nd round picks anyway.

DarkXaero · Post #19 » by **DarkXaero** » Fri Jan 10, 2025 11:36 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:I just can't with the asks in all the Nets threads. Doesn't matter how cheap their better players have gone, we won't stop demanding value our players just don't have.

At some point what is the point here? You realize you aren't actually negotiating real world deals right?

I mean why does this trade board keep making threads about Nets players then? What is the purpose of the board? To propose mock trades, right? And get feedback? Nets fans have a right to give their feedback on their players in mock trades, even if you strongly disagree with it. You have your right to resent us for that. There's just no point bringing it up as a complaint.

In any case, going back to the OP, I don't really see point of trading Dayron Sharpe for seconds, I think I'd rather play out the season with him and see what we have. He flashes potential of being a really good backup center but he has missed quite a few games and he does have obvious flaws. He looked really rusty coming back from injury but much better recently. But I'm just not sure why the Nets are necessarily selling a young, potentially very good rotation center for two 2nd round picks, when they already have plethora and they're in rebuild mode.