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[arich35]

If were talking about QB's with style Joe Burrow has it for days. Dude is swagged the eff out.

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[Big J]

If were talking about QB's with style Joe Burrow has it for days. Dude is swagged the eff out.

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That's swag.

[WentzerWuver]

If were talking about QB's with style Joe Burrow has it for days. Dude is swagged the eff out.

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If Burrow the real Slim Shady, please stand up!!!

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[Jikkle]

I take Saleh's interview for the DC spot as a pretty decent shot that he'll end up as DC.

It's obvious that he'd be number 1 on Shanahan's list but the question was how interested he was in the job and given his and Shanahan's relationship along with being familiar with the environment and job I doubt he would've bothered to interview if he had no interest in the position.

Think it boils down to if he can land a head coaching job or not. If he can't I can see him circling back to the 9ers.

[Jikkle]

Klint Kubiak named Offensive Coordinator. Not a major change but he could take some duties from Shanahan

I don't think it changes a whole lot except Shanahan will likely bring in another guy as part of his brain trust on offense since the passing game specialist spot is open.

Shanahan let Klint call the Cardinals game so another positive is that he's likely more open to listening to his input and feedback now that they've built a bit of trust.

But I can't see Shanahan giving up play-calling duties. Guys like Shanahan aren't wired to give up that kind of control and the best we can hope for is that he's just more open to suggestions from the brain trust.

[WentzerWuver]

I take Saleh's interview for the DC spot as a pretty decent shot that he'll end up as DC.

It's obvious that he'd be number 1 on Shanahan's list but the question was how interested he was in the job

It makes no sense on Saleh getting another HC in the NFL, it will NEVER HAPPEN since he can not bond with his QB which was part of his problem in NY. He wouldn't even be interviewing for the DC job for Kyle if he wasn't interested, so it's a done deal!

[Pattersonca65]

Klint Kubiak named Offensive Coordinator. Not a major change but he could take some duties from Shanahan

I don't think it changes a whole lot except Shanahan will likely bring in another guy as part of his brain trust on offense since the passing game specialist spot is open.

Shanahan let Klint call the Cardinals game so another positive is that he's likely more open to listening to his input and feedback now that they've built a bit of trust.

But I can't see Shanahan giving up play-calling duties. Guys like Shanahan aren't wired to give up that kind of control and the best we can hope for is that he's just more open to suggestions from the brain trust.

we know Shanahan is not giving up play-calling duties because Shanahan himself said he is not.

[Pattersonca65]

I take Saleh's interview for the DC spot as a pretty decent shot that he'll end up as DC.

It's obvious that he'd be number 1 on Shanahan's list but the question was how interested he was in the job

It makes no sense on Saleh getting another HC in the NFL, it will NEVER HAPPEN since he can not bond with his QB which was part of his problem in NY. He wouldn't even be interviewing for the DC job for Kyle if he wasn't interested, so it's a done deal!

I generally agree that it doesn't make sense but one of the two jobs Saleh is interview for is the Jacguars and Trent Baalke does a lot of things that don't make sense so it gives me pause. How anyone would give this guy a GM job makes no sense,

[Harry Palmer]

Klint Kubiak named Offensive Coordinator. Not a major change but he could take some duties from Shanahan

I don't think it changes a whole lot except Shanahan will likely bring in another guy as part of his brain trust on offense since the passing game specialist spot is open.

Shanahan let Klint call the Cardinals game so another positive is that he's likely more open to listening to his input and feedback now that they've built a bit of trust.

But I can't see Shanahan giving up play-calling duties. Guys like Shanahan aren't wired to give up that kind of control and the best we can hope for is that he's just more open to suggestions from the brain trust.

we know Shanahan is not giving up play-calling duties because Shanahan himself said he is not.

It could work a few ways. For example if the OC is in the booth, he might be the guy who decides what Shanahan plays to run once they are off the script (which Kyle can veto, obviously), or he might be given the right to override Kyle’s call if he sees something Shanahan can’t from the sidelines. Or he might just be like an advance scout during games, sent up to the booth to try and spot tells or see why what’s working or not working, etc. I agree it seems very un-Kyle like to surrender any control on the offence, but it was very un-Kyle to let Kline call an entire game. Maybe failure has forced a modicum of change.

Edit: either way, if Kyle IS giving up any play calling, it’ll last until it doesn’t work. Failure can’t have humbled him that much.

[clyde21]

I take Saleh's interview for the DC spot as a pretty decent shot that he'll end up as DC.

It's obvious that he'd be number 1 on Shanahan's list but the question was how interested he was in the job and given his and Shanahan's relationship along with being familiar with the environment and job I doubt he would've bothered to interview if he had no interest in the position.

Think it boils down to if he can land a head coaching job or not. If he can't I can see him circling back to the 9ers.

the only problem with this whole thing is if he has a big year as DC and is again a HC candidate next off-season, and we're **** back to square one again. i actually didn't think he'd have HC interest this soon.

[Harry Palmer]

Also, I think I prefer keeping Greenlaw to Deebo too, but it doesn’t work numbers wise. Plus, as much as I think he’s ~ complacent in the off-season and when not being targeted, I do kind of understand why Kyle is in love with him; he was the first player we had whose unique abilities allowed Kyle to do unorthodox things on offence…maybe outside Kittle but Kittle isn’t all that unique, he’s just not unusually good at everything you want a TE to do. CMC added to that, but I think Kyle still thinks of Deebo as the straw that stirs the drink.

[Pattersonca65]

I don't think it changes a whole lot except Shanahan will likely bring in another guy as part of his brain trust on offense since the passing game specialist spot is open.

Shanahan let Klint call the Cardinals game so another positive is that he's likely more open to listening to his input and feedback now that they've built a bit of trust.

But I can't see Shanahan giving up play-calling duties. Guys like Shanahan aren't wired to give up that kind of control and the best we can hope for is that he's just more open to suggestions from the brain trust.

we know Shanahan is not giving up play-calling duties because Shanahan himself said he is not.

It could work a few ways. For example if the OC is in the booth, he might be the guy who decides what Shanahan plays to run once they are off the script (which Kyle can veto, obviously), or he might be given the right to override Kyle’s call if he sees something Shanahan can’t from the sidelines. Or he might just be like an advance scout during games, sent up to the booth to try and spot tells or see why what’s working or not working, etc. I agree it seems very un-Kyle like to surrender any control on the offence, but it was very un-Kyle to let Kline call an entire game. Maybe failure has forced a modicum of change.

Edit: either way, if Kyle IS giving up any play calling, it’ll last until it doesn’t work. Failure can’t have humbled him that much.

I don't see a scenario where Kubiak would be given the possibility of overriding Shanahan. What has been mentioned is Kubiak calling plays in the red zone

[Harry Palmer]

I take Saleh's interview for the DC spot as a pretty decent shot that he'll end up as DC.

It's obvious that he'd be number 1 on Shanahan's list but the question was how interested he was in the job and given his and Shanahan's relationship along with being familiar with the environment and job I doubt he would've bothered to interview if he had no interest in the position.

Think it boils down to if he can land a head coaching job or not. If he can't I can see him circling back to the 9ers.

the only problem with this whole thing is if he has a big year as DC and is again a HC candidate next off-season, and we're **** back to square one again. i actually didn't think he'd have HC interest this soon.

I think it either takes more than one year or it takes a really special year for that to happen. NFL GMs are very familiar with the ‘great lead assistant , bad head coach’ archetype, often overly quick to pigeon hole guys there and if he isn’t under serious consideration this year I think it’s likely that that label has been applied and will need some time to wear off.

[clyde21]

I take Saleh's interview for the DC spot as a pretty decent shot that he'll end up as DC.

It's obvious that he'd be number 1 on Shanahan's list but the question was how interested he was in the job and given his and Shanahan's relationship along with being familiar with the environment and job I doubt he would've bothered to interview if he had no interest in the position.

Think it boils down to if he can land a head coaching job or not. If he can't I can see him circling back to the 9ers.

the only problem with this whole thing is if he has a big year as DC and is again a HC candidate next off-season, and we're **** back to square one again. i actually didn't think he'd have HC interest this soon.

I think it either takes more than one year or it takes a really special year for that to happen. NFL GMs are very familiar with the ‘great lead assistant , bad head coach’ archetype, often overly quick to pigeon hole guys there and if he isn’t under serious consideration this year I think it’s likely that that label has been applied and will need some time to wear off.

that's what I originally thought that if we brought him back he'd be our Spagnola hopefully but the fact that he already had a couple of HC interviews gives me some pause

when Spags was fired it was crickets on the HC front and it's still crickets lol

[Harry Palmer]

the only problem with this whole thing is if he has a big year as DC and is again a HC candidate next off-season, and we're **** back to square one again. i actually didn't think he'd have HC interest this soon.

I think it either takes more than one year or it takes a really special year for that to happen. NFL GMs are very familiar with the ‘great lead assistant , bad head coach’ archetype, often overly quick to pigeon hole guys there and if he isn’t under serious consideration this year I think it’s likely that that label has been applied and will need some time to wear off.

that's what I originally thought that if we brought him back he'd be our Spagnola hopefully but the fact that he already had a couple of HC interviews gives me some pause

Yeah, I don’t think he’s here indefinitely if he succeeds, I think maybe 2-3 seasons at most, someone will give him another shot unless there are behind-the-scenes stuff we haven’t heard about. But if he’s not offered a HC spot this off-season I assume it’s the label and that’ll take more than one season to wear off unless it’s a doozy. His interviewing is interesting, but could be Rooney rule related (or was that discontinued? Vague recollection something about it was tweaked or w/e) and if not that gets us another 3rd worst case scenario. But I don’t think him being a great DC here will tell people anything they don’t already know. Now if he turns us back into a/the best D in football someone will take another bite.

[CrimsonCrew]

I take Saleh's interview for the DC spot as a pretty decent shot that he'll end up as DC.

It's obvious that he'd be number 1 on Shanahan's list but the question was how interested he was in the job and given his and Shanahan's relationship along with being familiar with the environment and job I doubt he would've bothered to interview if he had no interest in the position.

Think it boils down to if he can land a head coaching job or not. If he can't I can see him circling back to the 9ers.

the only problem with this whole thing is if he has a big year as DC and is again a HC candidate next off-season, and we're **** back to square one again. i actually didn't think he'd have HC interest this soon.

Yeah, but that'll be true of any established coordinator. At least then we'd get comp picks again....

I'm a little mixed on Saleh. He settled into his groove and did a good job when he was here, but I thought Ryans was better. It feels like a bit of a step - well, backward certainly isn't the right word, given what we're coming off of, but not a decisive step in the right direction. I'd like to see a more diverse defense that wasn't so predictable. But Shanahan is stubborn, and this is the defense he likes, so Saleh has got to be near the top of the candidate pool.

[Samurai]

I take Saleh's interview for the DC spot as a pretty decent shot that he'll end up as DC.

It's obvious that he'd be number 1 on Shanahan's list but the question was how interested he was in the job and given his and Shanahan's relationship along with being familiar with the environment and job I doubt he would've bothered to interview if he had no interest in the position.

Think it boils down to if he can land a head coaching job or not. If he can't I can see him circling back to the 9ers.

the only problem with this whole thing is if he has a big year as DC and is again a HC candidate next off-season, and we're **** back to square one again. i actually didn't think he'd have HC interest this soon.

We received a compensatory pick when the Jets hired Saleh in 2021. If another team lures him away with another HC job in the future, do we get another compensatory pick?

In business, it is common that the sign of a good leader is to develop their own successor to maintain business continuity. If the team thinks Saleh could have a big year as a DC, Kyle could set up a system to better enable an understudy step in to the DC role if Saleh were to leave (similar to Ryans being promoted to DC when Saleh left).

[WentzerWuver]

I take Saleh's interview for the DC spot as a pretty decent shot that he'll end up as DC.

It's obvious that he'd be number 1 on Shanahan's list but the question was how interested he was in the job and given his and Shanahan's relationship along with being familiar with the environment and job I doubt he would've bothered to interview if he had no interest in the position.

Think it boils down to if he can land a head coaching job or not. If he can't I can see him circling back to the 9ers.

the only problem with this whole thing is if he has a big year as DC and is again a HC candidate next off-season, and we're **** back to square one again. i actually didn't think he'd have HC interest this soon.

Yeah, but that'll be true of any established coordinator. At least then we'd get comp picks again....

I'm a little mixed on Saleh. He settled into his groove and did a good job when he was here, but I thought Ryans was better. It feels like a bit of a step - well, backward certainly isn't the right word, given what we're coming off of, but not a decisive step in the right direction. I'd like to see a more diverse defense that wasn't so predictable. But Shanahan is stubborn, and this is the defense he likes, so Saleh has got to be near the top of the candidate pool.

True but I would hire Saleh over DeMeco to be DC cause i DO NOT condone nor support these types of plays.

https://youtube.com/shorts/-DpV6eH48xU?si=xllri_5CisBEotMn

https://youtube.com/shorts/LyCTV3aXMAc?si=Q6nxYfgSUBuIkCbe

[49er4life1979]

the only problem with this whole thing is if he has a big year as DC and is again a HC candidate next off-season, and we're **** back to square one again. i actually didn't think he'd have HC interest this soon.

Yeah, but that'll be true of any established coordinator. At least then we'd get comp picks again....

I'm a little mixed on Saleh. He settled into his groove and did a good job when he was here, but I thought Ryans was better. It feels like a bit of a step - well, backward certainly isn't the right word, given what we're coming off of, but not a decisive step in the right direction. I'd like to see a more diverse defense that wasn't so predictable. But Shanahan is stubborn, and this is the defense he likes, so Saleh has got to be near the top of the candidate pool.

True but I would hire Saleh over DeMeco to be DC cause i DO NOT condone nor support these types of plays.

https://youtube.com/shorts/-DpV6eH48xU?si=xllri_5CisBEotMn

https://youtube.com/shorts/LyCTV3aXMAc?si=Q6nxYfgSUBuIkCbe

I would like a DC that plays a lot of man coverage and brings heavy pressure like the Lions do. I think this old Seattle scheme has more than runs its course and into expiration. I know last year they went after Belichick and Spagnuolo so I guess they are open minded. The mistake was when Ryans left and they brought in Fangio only for him to turn them down because they wanted him to adjust to their stupid Wide 9. Then they brought in Wilks who agreed to run the wide 9. But yea, I dont see Saleh getting hired in Jacksonville or with the Raiders or with any other team as HC. So I think he will be back.

[thesack12]

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This seems pretty dumb, especially because its doesn't appear to be Rooney rule related.

Not sure why its a problem to promote from within. Seems like the league has a problem with it because SF didn't previously have an OC in title. Such an uncommon, very specialized situation to have a formal policy for. Again, seems super dumb.