NBA has to send 4 Cavs to All-Star

[srhcan]

Great troll. Looking forward to Celtic fans' response.

Tatum is best player in series but is it crazy to think the Cavs have next 4 best players?

Not sure about the bolded part.

[brackdan70]

Celtics fan here and I think they do deserve 4. 3 for sure.
I am guessing they end up with 3.
My opinion:
Starters
Tatum
Giannis
Towns
Mitchell
Brunson

Very likely
Mobley
Garland
Brown

Fighting for the last 4
White
Cade
Siakam
Lilliard
Allen
Trae
Hero

Maybe Maxey

Franz Wagner and Banchero if not for injuries

Lots of deserving guys to fill 4 spots…it seems an outside shot that Allen makes it….though if thinking about a balanced roster with 3 bigs…maybe.

[jasonxxx102]

Great troll. Looking forward to Celtic fans' response.

Tatum is best player in series but is it crazy to think the Cavs have next 4 best players?

Maybe not crazy, but probably a minority opinion. Boston might have the best 2 players. A Brown/Mitchell poll would be interesting, tbh.

Donovan Mitchell is absolutely better than Jaylen Brown.

[jasonxxx102]

Allen Mobley and Mitchell, yes, Garland no, because there needs to be room for Cade Cunningham.

Garland is significantly better in Cade in virtually every non counting stat. Much better ball handler, much better scorer, shooter, as good as a playmaker.

[JJ_PR]

Great troll. Looking forward to Celtic fans' response.

Tatum is best player in series but is it crazy to think the Cavs have next 4 best players?

It's Tatum, Mitchell, Brown, Garland, Mobley, White, Porzingis, Allen in that order to me. All All-Star quality too.

I'd swap Allen and Porzingis, health being the main factor. Otherwise, good list. Maybe ahead of White as well. Allen brings so much to the table, extremely underrated.

[basketballRob]

Allen is better than Shaq!

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[KillMonger]

4 guys? Not seeing it, great team but imo only Mitchell really deserves it...
He's a bonafide all-star, he's stamped and certified.... Then again what do I know, I always felt Allstars should be the best player on your team, the top guy..... Like would garland really deserve it over cade?

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[JujitsuFlip]

4 guys? Not seeing it, great team but imo only Mitchell really deserves it...
He's a bonafide all-star, he's stamped and certified.... Then again what do I know, I always felt Allstars should be the best player on your team, the top guy..... Like would garland really deserve it over cade?

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If they only get 1 All-Star that is bonkers.

The EC head coaches have been getting smacked by these guys all season long, they should know to put at least 1 or 2 guys in as reserves.

[toooskies]

4 guys? Not seeing it, great team but imo only Mitchell really deserves it...
He's a bonafide all-star, he's stamped and certified.... Then again what do I know, I always felt Allstars should be the best player on your team, the top guy..... Like would garland really deserve it over cade?

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Per-36, Garland scores 25.0ppg compared to Cade's 24.5-- the Cavs are just blowing out other teams so badly that Garland plays 5.4 fewer minutes per game.

Garland's true shooting is 63.6% versus Cade's 55.3%. Garland's in the 50/40/90 club-- 50/43/91 as of right now, while Cade is flirting with getting to 50% on twos.

For Cade's extra 1.4 assists per 36, he turns the ball over 1.5 more times than Garland.

Garland is absolutely killing it in the clutch, scoring 1.68 points per possession as the lead ballhandler. (No idea where Cade is, he isn't in the top 10 on the graphic.) https://bsky.app/profile/nbastat.bsky.social/post/3lff5sqrl422e

So yeah, I do have Garland over him, pretty easily.

[SK21209]

The "team at the top of the standings needs at least X many All-Stars" has always been dumb to me. You can be an awesome team without having multiple Top 12 guys in the conference.

[Drakeem]

4 guys? Not seeing it, great team but imo only Mitchell really deserves it...
He's a bonafide all-star, he's stamped and certified.... Then again what do I know, I always felt Allstars should be the best player on your team, the top guy..... Like would garland really deserve it over cade?

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Yeah, he's been better.

[Patsfan1081]

The "team at the top of the standings needs at least X many All-Stars" has always been dumb to me. You can be an awesome team without having multiple Top 12 guys in the conference.

Basically this, teams don’t have equal schedules at the halfway point. The Cavs for example have had the second easiest schedule so far playing at home more than most. Just take the best players fans want to see. Spider and Mobley seem like locks, prob throw Garland in as well.

[dakomish23]

Normally they wouldn't get 4 with how strong the East is now. The ORL injuries might leave an opening though. But both Garland & Mobley should be joining Mitchell IMO. Not sure Allen should be there

[Blame Rasho]

Reminds me of when the pistons and hawks wanted 4 all stars years ago.

Kyle Korver anyone…

[JujitsuFlip]

Reminds me of when the pistons and hawks wanted 4 all stars years ago.

Kyle Korver anyone…

2006 Pistons
Billups
RIP
B. Wallace
R. Wallace

2011 Celtics
Rondo
Pierce
KG
Allen

2015 Hawks
Jeff Teague
Korver
Horford
Millsap

2018 Warriors
KD
Steph
Klay
Dray

[Statlanta]

If the Magic were healthy we would not be entertaining 4 Cavs or 3 Celtics. Stuff like 4 All stars are for injury filled seasons or weak conferences

[toooskies]

The "team at the top of the standings needs at least X many All-Stars" has always been dumb to me. You can be an awesome team without having multiple Top 12 guys in the conference.

Basically this, teams don’t have equal schedules at the halfway point. The Cavs for example have had the second easiest schedule so far playing at home more than most. Just take the best players fans want to see. Spider and Mobley seem like locks, prob throw Garland in as well.

Teams don't have equal schedules at the end of the year either because they don't have to play themselves. (The Cavs also got a good random draw of opponents that didn't make the NBA Cup games.) If the Cavs maintain a top-2 record, they will end the year with a bottom-2 strength of schedule.

The Cavs are currently 11-2 (counted by hand, the losses at least are correct) against the top 6 seeds in either conference and haven't lost to a western conference team. If you extrapolate that to the season played thus far it's still only 5 or 6 losses.

The Cavs are 13-3 on the road, and while their remaining schedule is road-tilted by six games, it's not by much. Homecourt is worth roughly 3 points to the home team (thus a six point differential), but the Cavs have won by fewer than six points only four times. If you moved three of the Cavs' home games played thus far to the road and their points swung by six, you'd likely change one or fewer wins to a loss.

Also, for all the "if the Celtics didn't get four last year" folks, the Cavs are four wins better through 37 games than the Celtics were last year. Last year's Celtics aren't the reference point.

The 2018 Warriors were 29-8 through 37.
The 2015 Hawks were 29-8.
The 2011 Celtics were 28-9.
The 2006 Pistons were 32-5.

The Cavs' team performance is certainly historically sufficient to provide for four all-stars.

[cupcakesnake]

Great troll. Looking forward to Celtic fans' response.

Haha I'm not opposed to the Cavs getting 4 all-stars but a year ago the Celtics had a million game lead in the standings, and a historic net rating, and multiple all-star caliber players, and absolutely no one on this board would entertain posts from Celtics fans saying they should get more than 2. And they got 2. So yeah.

I think I weirdly had Tatum and Porzingis on "my" all-star team, and White and Brown on the cusp. Absolute strong case for 4 all-star last year, and I easily had all of them over Julius Randle and Paolo (guys who made the team).

This year I feel strongly that Tatum/White should be locks and Brown should be on the team.

Cavs wise, I have Mitchell/Garland/Mobley all on the team. Jarrett Allen deserves heavy consideration, especially with a few guys dropping out due to age/injury (the Magic boys and Jimmy). I have Allen in a group with OG, Cade, and Trae to grab the last wildcard spot.

[bisme37]

I promise I'm not trying to start anything with my Raps pals but last year I was sure they'd choose either White or Porzingis as an injury replacement, to reward the best players on the best team, and I still don't understand why they gave it to Scottie Barnes.

He's a nice player and I like him, but at the time of his selection he was the NBA's 46th leading scorer and played for the 13 seed in the East. A few posters suggested it was a ratings thing, like all of Canada would tune in to the ASG if Scottie was there. But he didn't crack the positional top 10 of fan voting either, so clearly even Canada didn't care a whole lot. Pretty random allstar selection imo.

Saying this here because I'd just be very surprised if the Cavs got 4 Allstars. There's a) a lot of talent in the league, and b) every year there's a head scratcher or two, that may or may not simply be to drum up interest among as many fanbases and regions as possible.

[reload141]

Never thought I’d see the day Niang would be an All-Star but here we are