2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4

[AirP.]

Why are the Heat penalized for overachieving? This board is so dumb with regards to the last few years, instead of celebrating the fact they fast tracked the rebuild timeline (or skipped it really) and were close to a couple championships, they lament over the fact that they didn't win those championships when they were never supposed to be there in the first place. Also, no credit is given to finding players that fit into the cap (ie undrafted) that bolstered those teams, only bitching about not trading for disgruntled stars even when there are times the league literally steps in to prevent it from happening (Dame).

Actually let me take that back, its not really this board, most of the bitching comes from player first fans with zero loyalty to any team who view everything as transactional. Whores will be whores.

Who’s our player only fans? AirP is the only one that comes to mind

Not sure I don’t lurk/post enough anymore, but it was bad during the LeBron years as well. Even Shaq fans to a lesser degree.

It’s just funny to me because the narrative is always “youre only good because of x player”, and yet the Heat were good before that player and after in almost every case. The only common denominator is Riley, and if you’re a Dolphins or Marlins fan you should know what a huge difference good ownership and management can make vs bad.

So many people here are eager to run Riley and even Spo out of town, its so incredibly shortsighted. Its like they want the Heat to become the Hawks or the Hornets or something, which they were on track to becoming pre Riley. So many don’t even know about the Zo/Timmy years, or dismiss them because no championship.

I think Spoelstra is great, Riley I think has become too conservative in the last decade on how he builds team but he's had a legendary career. This whole run with Butler basically everyone outside of the Heat said the roster was weak (and it was) and instead of doing what Riley used to do, send out picks to get more proven players, he decided to draft 4 straight years while this team needed to strengthen the roster while making the ECF 3 out of 5 years. The only strengthening of the roster happened with low cost (in assets) vets who were nearly done in the NBA. They went to the Finals in 2020 and the very next season they open the season with Mo Harkless as their starting PF and it wasn't because of injuries.

[eddieheatfan]

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[AirP.]

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[Dmcdani6]

Timmy spittin facts foreal. Although I dont think Riley went about it correctly, Jimmy being petty is weak. Why does he keep repeating these antics? Man up

[MiamiLoyal926]

Who’s our player only fans? AirP is the only one that comes to mind

Not sure I don’t lurk/post enough anymore, but it was bad during the LeBron years as well. Even Shaq fans to a lesser degree.

It’s just funny to me because the narrative is always “youre only good because of x player”, and yet the Heat were good before that player and after in almost every case. The only common denominator is Riley, and if you’re a Dolphins or Marlins fan you should know what a huge difference good ownership and management can make vs bad.

So many people here are eager to run Riley and even Spo out of town, its so incredibly shortsighted. Its like they want the Heat to become the Hawks or the Hornets or something, which they were on track to becoming pre Riley. So many don’t even know about the Zo/Timmy years, or dismiss them because no championship.

Haha did fan boy really just give that reply! Lying ass twit

[AirP.]

Timmy spittin facts foreal. Although I dont think Riley went about it correctly, Jimmy being petty is weak. Why does he keep repeating these antics? Man up

Because Miami isn't going past the summer of 2026 with a big contract for him and as of now there seems to be someone else who will, you're talking 35+ million-dollar difference between what he could get and possibly getting only the MLE if nobody has cap space and they don't have his bird rights. Miami's going hunting in FA the summer of 2026, possibly next season with chunky expiring contracts.

It's cut throat, but it's the best path for Miami, even if it's screwing over Butler's potential money, they should have just traded him this last summer.

[ZoStrong]

Who’s our player only fans? AirP is the only one that comes to mind

Not sure I don’t lurk/post enough anymore, but it was bad during the LeBron years as well. Even Shaq fans to a lesser degree.

It’s just funny to me because the narrative is always “youre only good because of x player”, and yet the Heat were good before that player and after in almost every case. The only common denominator is Riley, and if you’re a Dolphins or Marlins fan you should know what a huge difference good ownership and management can make vs bad.

So many people here are eager to run Riley and even Spo out of town, its so incredibly shortsighted. Its like they want the Heat to become the Hawks or the Hornets or something, which they were on track to becoming pre Riley. So many don’t even know about the Zo/Timmy years, or dismiss them because no championship.

I think Spoelstra is great, Riley I think has become too conservative in the last decade on how he builds team but he's had a legendary career. This whole run with Butler basically everyone outside of the Heat said the roster was weak (and it was) and instead of doing what Riley used to do, send out picks to get more proven players, he decided to draft 4 straight years while this team needed to strengthen the roster while making the ECF 3 out of 5 years. The only strengthening of the roster happened with low cost (in assets) vets who were nearly done in the NBA. They went to the Finals in 2020 and the very next season they open the season with Mo Harkless as their starting PF and it wasn't because of injuries.

Or, just maybe he's the same, but the environments keep changing. The chef can cook still but the health department n cooking laws keep changing. Now w aprons. Drafting is more essential today than ever. I give the management credit for finding good players at least when they used to never care about the draft

[powerball1373]

I see feelings were hurt last night and the Pat brigade banded together

I don’t see how anyone can look over his tenure since getting Jimmy and say he did a great job and did the most he could to win us a championship, that is just insane fuxking delusion and no it has nothing to do with Bam stop being idiots you little culture vultures.

Fk Jimmy. He ain't never won chit before us, with us, and he sure as hell ain't winning chit after us. He can EAD as far as I'm concerned.

[Kobewade11]

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"Am I being tough on him? Yeah, that's who I am," he said.

That was Jimmy on his tough love approach with KAT. Guess he's not as tough as he said.

[eddieheatfan]

Timmy spittin facts foreal. Although I dont think Riley went about it correctly, Jimmy being petty is weak. Why does he keep repeating these antics? Man up

Because Miami isn't going past the summer of 2026 with a big contract for him and as of now there seems to be someone else who will, you're talking 35+ million-dollar difference between what he could get and possibly getting only the MLE if nobody has cap space and they don't have his bird rights. Miami's going hunting in FA the summer of 2026, possibly next season with chunky expiring contracts.

It's cut throat, but it's the best path for Miami, even if it's screwing over Butler's potential money, they should have just traded him this last summer.

i'm on the same opinion

[AirP.]

Not sure I don’t lurk/post enough anymore, but it was bad during the LeBron years as well. Even Shaq fans to a lesser degree.

It’s just funny to me because the narrative is always “youre only good because of x player”, and yet the Heat were good before that player and after in almost every case. The only common denominator is Riley, and if you’re a Dolphins or Marlins fan you should know what a huge difference good ownership and management can make vs bad.

So many people here are eager to run Riley and even Spo out of town, its so incredibly shortsighted. Its like they want the Heat to become the Hawks or the Hornets or something, which they were on track to becoming pre Riley. So many don’t even know about the Zo/Timmy years, or dismiss them because no championship.

I think Spoelstra is great, Riley I think has become too conservative in the last decade on how he builds team but he's had a legendary career. This whole run with Butler basically everyone outside of the Heat said the roster was weak (and it was) and instead of doing what Riley used to do, send out picks to get more proven players, he decided to draft 4 straight years while this team needed to strengthen the roster while making the ECF 3 out of 5 years. The only strengthening of the roster happened with low cost (in assets) vets who were nearly done in the NBA. They went to the Finals in 2020 and the very next season they open the season with Mo Harkless as their starting PF and it wasn't because of injuries.

Or, just maybe he's the same, but the environments keep changing. The chef can cook still but the health department n cooking laws keep changing. Now w aprons. Drafting is more essential today than ever. I give the management credit for finding good players at least when they used to never care about the draft

My only counterpoint is the one I've made each year, when you're close to a championship you go for it. You usually need an MVP level talent to have a shot but luckily for Miami Butler's game is/was well suited for the playoffs where when healthy he can play like an MVP. If you're not going to go for it when you're that close, what real chance do you have at a championship unless you somehow get lucky to draft an MVP level talent in the middle of the first round? Wade's been the only MVP level player this franchise has drafted.

[AirP.]

Double Post, site was lagging greatly.

[contract]

Why are the Heat penalized for overachieving? This board is so dumb with regards to the last few years, instead of celebrating the fact they fast tracked the rebuild timeline (or skipped it really) and were close to a couple championships, they lament over the fact that they didn't win those championships when they were never supposed to be there in the first place. Also, no credit is given to finding players that fit into the cap (ie undrafted) that bolstered those teams, only bitching about not trading for disgruntled stars even when there are times the league literally steps in to prevent it from happening (Dame).

Actually let me take that back, its not really this board, most of the bitching comes from player first fans with zero loyalty to any team who view everything as transactional. Whores will be whores.

I don't think that anyone is unhappy that the Heat overachieve, I think they are unhappy that the Heat have to overachieve year after year.

[3ballbomber]

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"Am I being tough on him? Yeah, that's who I am," he said.

That was Jimmy on his tough love approach with KAT. Guess he's not as tough as he said.

This is why i don’t make a big deal like everybody else w/ Riles criticising Butler publicly when telling him to shut his mouth. This shouldn’t affect a grown man’s emotions, esp a so called tough guy like Jimmy. If you’re sensitive to being held accountable that’s your problem. Riles runs a tight ship & we approach things as professionals. One guy ain’t above the culture.

I don’t even think Jimmy cared more than it is fans that are sensitive & soft.

[dshearn]

Jimmy now reminds me of a hot woman who’s losing her looks as she ages and doesn’t realize that will mean people are a lot less willing to put up with her BS. It’s kind of sad to watch.

That Big Face video he posted today was pretty cringeworthy. Even fans of other teams (who generally seem to dislike the Heat) are siding against him and his antics at this point.

Sorta that combined with the girl who loves to dish out "real talk" on everyone in her orbit, but can't take it when it comes back to her

[powerball1373]

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"Am I being tough on him? Yeah, that's who I am," he said.

That was Jimmy on his tough love approach with KAT. Guess he's not as tough as he said.

Bullies don't like it when they get hit back.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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Damn Pullin was balling and had great size for a PG

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Who’s our player only fans? AirP is the only one that comes to mind

Not sure I don’t lurk/post enough anymore, but it was bad during the LeBron years as well. Even Shaq fans to a lesser degree.

It’s just funny to me because the narrative is always “youre only good because of x player”, and yet the Heat were good before that player and after in almost every case. The only common denominator is Riley, and if you’re a Dolphins or Marlins fan you should know what a huge difference good ownership and management can make vs bad.

So many people here are eager to run Riley and even Spo out of town, its so incredibly shortsighted. Its like they want the Heat to become the Hawks or the Hornets or something, which they were on track to becoming pre Riley. So many don’t even know about the Zo/Timmy years, or dismiss them because no championship.

Haha did fan boy really just give that reply! Lying ass twit

You’re fuxking hilarious

I respond to dumbass posts about the young star on my favorite team and I’m labeled a player fan because I say something when idiots compare him to Clint Capela and Joel Anthony. You have WAY bigger issues in your life to be worrying about right now

[3ammy3uck3ts]

I see feelings were hurt last night and the Pat brigade banded together

I don’t see how anyone can look over his tenure since getting Jimmy and say he did a great job and did the most he could to win us a championship, that is just insane fuxking delusion and no it has nothing to do with Bam stop being idiots you little culture vultures.

Fk Jimmy. He ain't never won chit before us, with us, and he sure as hell ain't winning chit after us. He can EAD as far as I'm concerned.

And thats completely fine for you to feel that way, that’s how I am for the most part. If you aren’t with us you’re against us but it’s still ok to admit that Pat has done a bad job overall with this build, it doesn’t ruin his legacy it’s just not his time any more

[3ammy3uck3ts]

This may be of great interest to this board. Milwaukee may be trying to get in position to be the 3rd team for Miami and Phoenix and probably would need to include at least 1 more team past that. They're rumored to be looking at adding Beal to make a run with Giannis, Lillard and Beal while jettison Middleton's contract and others. I'd have to expect Lopez and his 23 mil expiring would be one contract that would head to Miami that's built around Miami, Phoenix, Milwaukee + a 4th team. Maybe Miami can get that Phoenix 1st that would be probably after KD and Butler are done in the NBA.

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Man that would be very interesting to get Brook here but I’m not sure I buy it. They’re open to swapping Middleton and Lopez for Beal and probably losing another asset to dump Pat? I get that Middleton has his injury concerns but so does Beal (not as serious) and Lopez is a big loss for them I feel