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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4 

Post#161 » by contract » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:15 am

batterybro42 wrote:Pat Riley successfully got out of max extending a player that doesn’t have much left, without making the organization look like the bad guy. He now has us set up for a chance at a super team in 2026 in terms of where our cap is at.

He is not washed

Jimmy Butler in my opinion really screwed this whole thing up for himself. Jimmy was a fringe all star before coming to Miami. The Heat helped make him very loveable even marketable.

Now he doesn’t have much left in the tank, and if he opts in next year he will have a hard time getting the Heat to trade him because they are not going to take back that salary on anything longer than an expiring and will just hold onto him unless or until they can get an asset back. If he opts out no contending team will have the flexibility to sign him, and he might not even touch 50 mil the rest of his career in total.

The reality is Jimmy doesn’t have any leverage. Tt really doesn’t hurt or change anything if they just keep suspending him if he doesn’t want to play indefinitely. Pat Riley might have turned the tide on the player empowerment movement. Because Miami won’t care, other players won’t care and the rest of the NBA will see it happen.

If Pat chooses to keep a $50 million hole in our cap, then this organization is not trying to win. He would never tolerate that from anyone else in the organization. Players are expected to grind and get better every day. Coaches are told that "we have enough" and are expected to figure out a way. Excuses are not tolerated. But the front office is not held to the same standard. When the front office fails, everyone just shrugs. When they make bad choices, "no one bats 1.000".

I am not OK with phoning it in just because Pat wants to win a pissing contest that he had a hand in creating and could have avoided.
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Post#162 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:29 am

On the point of roster construction, who gets credit when undrafted players pan out and get turned into rotation players? Who gets credit when draft picks work out (Bam, Herro, Jaquez, Jovic, Ware etc)?

Conversely, who here owns it when they hoot and holler that a move needs to be made "just because", it happens, you get the guy and you celebrate when it happens (Rozier) and he turns into a net negative on a bad deal?

I get it, everyone wants the home run move. But what about when you get the home run (Jimmy) and you just can't get the back2back? Is there no credit for the first part? Would you rather we just sit on our hands and enjoy "the process" for 5 years or a decade?

It reminds me of the criticism LeBron gets sometimes for Finals losses (2011 aside), as if it would have been better had he not made the Finals at all some of those years so people couldn't hold that against him. Maybe people on this board would be more content if Riley just tanked for a few years like Pop to get a Wemby? Nah, who am I kidding, they'd tear him apart. Or just stop watching altogether.
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Post#163 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:41 am

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Post#164 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jan 11, 2025 4:45 am

I wonder how things would’ve turned out if my guy Randy Embry didn’t fight for Wade on draft night and finally convince Pat to draft him. Draft is always such a crap shoot, that’s why you need elite scout teams, Randy was exactly that
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4 

Post#166 » by 3ballbomber » Sat Jan 11, 2025 5:59 am

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3ballbomber wrote:We’ve had it good making ECF’s & 2 Finals during Jimmy’ stretch & had some bad luck on the way w/ injuries to main players. Doing this w/ the roster we’ve had. Better than 90% of the league, who, if had the same roster wld fail miserably. Yet you all complain & whine rather than feel blessed to have experienced what most teams wld love to sniff even a little bit of. Go follow other organisations & be miserable like their fans & let us keep operating for our nxt Championship run. Seriously F off already & let professionals make the decisions that you all wld f*ck up everyday. When we go on out nxt PO run, & it will be sooner than majority of teams, i don’t wanna see ya’ll same cats cheering & enjoying the fruits of the process it took to experience success, again.


I think it’s the criticism of Spo that annoys me the most on this board. The Riley criticism is often valid and it’s actually been valid since the way Riley handled Wade. But the Spo scapegoating is ridiculous. These are not rosters where you have a ton of room for error as a coach. And yet he’s been in contention every single year.

People really don’t understand how awful we would look with almost any other coach in the league.


Spo is Rileys understudy, his protege. Riley is Spo’s mentor. Everything about Miami & the culture is Riley, including Spo. Pat baptised Spo into the culture back in 2006. The hard nosed approach, the accountability…..All Riles. Spo doesnt survive the big-3 era w/out Riley’s toughness, integrity, principals & philosophy imbedded into him.

Though it may be true Riley’s made some mistakes they’re not as detrimental to the team than other miserable organisations who haven’t achieved half of what we have, even w/ the mistakes we’ve made.

No FO is perfect. We simply make better decisions than others, evident in the consistent successes we have. Sleepy Pat & all that bullsh*t is a reflection more on fans & their spoilt mentalities more than anything else. It’s all ridiculous. Keep whining & whinging while professionals are in the process of continuing our success that these same spoilt brats & fan boys will end up enjoying.
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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4 

Post#167 » by Bmaster » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:49 am

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marson wrote:
Shewasfly wrote:
I think it’s the criticism of Spo that annoys me the most on this board. The Riley criticism is often valid and it’s actually been valid since the way Riley handled Wade. But the Spo scapegoating is ridiculous. These are not rosters where you have a ton of room for error as a coach. And yet he’s been in contention every single year.

People really don’t understand how awful we would look with almost any other coach in the league.


That 30-11 run is just cemented in my mind that I can no longer question Spo.

Spo definitely deserves the criticism sometimes for sure. But a lot of times it reaches the point of absurdity. That’s where I’m like ppl need to be reminded how lucky we are to have him. He’s a top 3 coach, period.

Only criticism of spo is not playing bam and ware together some. Just a couple minutes a game just to try it. And not playing rookies early like Ware.
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Post#168 » by SA37 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:22 pm

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:On the point of roster construction, who gets credit when undrafted players pan out and get turned into rotation players? Who gets credit when draft picks work out (Bam, Herro, Jaquez, Jovic, Ware etc)?

Conversely, who here owns it when they hoot and holler that a move needs to be made "just because", it happens, you get the guy and you celebrate when it happens (Rozier) and he turns into a net negative on a bad deal?

I get it, everyone wants the home run move. But what about when you get the home run (Jimmy) and you just can't get the back2back? Is there no credit for the first part? Would you rather we just sit on our hands and enjoy "the process" for 5 years or a decade?

It reminds me of the criticism LeBron gets sometimes for Finals losses (2011 aside), as if it would have been better had he not made the Finals at all some of those years so people couldn't hold that against him. Maybe people on this board would be more content if Riley just tanked for a few years like Pop to get a Wemby? Nah, who am I kidding, they'd tear him apart. Or just stop watching altogether.


There are (I think) only a handful of folks who still post here who might remember BBallFreak and me writing book-length posts going back and forth about what Miami needed to do after the Eddie Jones-Brian Grant signings turned sour after Mourning's sudden medically-induced retirement. In summary, I was all for trading absolutely everyone -- even for pennies on the dollar -- for expirings and draft picks, shamelessly tanking to get a high pick (where I thought we had the best chance of getting a star), and using cap space to sign free agents; BBallFreak was much more aligned with Pat Riley's approach of maintaining a competitive roster and not "throwing the baby out with the bathwater."

In the end, we were both proven right to some degree. Our star did come from a high draft pick after a terrible season (D Wade*) and Miami was able to sign Lamar Odom in FA using cap space thanks to Anthony Carter's forgetful agent; at the same time the guys Riley kept around were included in the trades that landed Miami Shaquille O'Neal, Antoine Walker, Jason Williams, and James Posey. (*it is worth noting Riley has admitted he wanted Chris Kaman and had to be talked into drafting D Wade.)

Then Riley pulled off the greatest FA heist in NBA history in 2010.

Anyway, the media doesn't fawn over Miami the way it does other franchises, but objectively there are only 3 other franchises that are in the conversation when comparing what Miami has accomplished as a team in terms of winning games and championships and with the amount of HOF, star-studded players to play for the franchise over the last 30 years + the incredible player development + the coaching staff development: the LA Lakers, the Boston Celtics, and the San Antonio Spurs. And there is almost no one on Riley's level as a GM (except maybe Jerry West and Greg Popovich) and as a coach (Popovich and Phil Jackson).

Pat Riley has brought the franchise the credibility and the stability it needed to make Miami a destination for the best of the best to play for the franchise.

Just to show you how different things could have been, Miami and Charlotte entered the league in 1988 followed by Minnesota and Orlando in 1989. Toronto and Vancouver followed in 1995. Charlotte lost its franchise to New Orleans and Vancouver moved to Memphis. Of all these teams, the only other team that has won a championship is Toronto. The only other team to play in the Finals is Orlando, and that was in 1995.

And I WILL take this opportunity to **** on the Knicks, who got the best of Miami in the late 90s, but have (until recently) languished in total irrelevance, while Miami has been built into one of the preeminent franchises in the NBA.

Thank you, Pat Riley!
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Post#169 » by marson » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:27 pm

SA37 wrote:
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:On the point of roster construction, who gets credit when undrafted players pan out and get turned into rotation players? Who gets credit when draft picks work out (Bam, Herro, Jaquez, Jovic, Ware etc)?

Conversely, who here owns it when they hoot and holler that a move needs to be made "just because", it happens, you get the guy and you celebrate when it happens (Rozier) and he turns into a net negative on a bad deal?

I get it, everyone wants the home run move. But what about when you get the home run (Jimmy) and you just can't get the back2back? Is there no credit for the first part? Would you rather we just sit on our hands and enjoy "the process" for 5 years or a decade?

It reminds me of the criticism LeBron gets sometimes for Finals losses (2011 aside), as if it would have been better had he not made the Finals at all some of those years so people couldn't hold that against him. Maybe people on this board would be more content if Riley just tanked for a few years like Pop to get a Wemby? Nah, who am I kidding, they'd tear him apart. Or just stop watching altogether.


There are (I think) only a handful of folks who still post here who might remember BBallFreak and me writing book-length posts going back and forth about what Miami needed to do after the Eddie Jones-Brian Grant signings turned sour after Mourning's sudden medically-induced retirement. In summary, I was all for trading absolutely everyone -- even for pennies on the dollar -- for expirings and draft picks, shamelessly tanking to get a high pick (where I thought we had the best chance of getting a star), and using cap space to sign free agents; BBallFreak was much more aligned with Pat Riley's approach of maintaining a competitive roster and not "throwing the baby out with the bathwater."

In the end, we were both proven right to some degree. Our star did come from a high draft pick after a terrible season (D Wade*) and Miami was able to sign Lamar Odom in FA using cap space thanks to Anthony Carter's forgetful agent; at the same time the guys Riley kept around were included in the trades that landed Miami Shaquille O'Neal, Antoine Walker, Jason Williams, and James Posey. (*it is worth noting Riley has admitted he wanted Chris Kaman and had to be talked into drafting D Wade.)

Then Riley pulled off the greatest FA heist in NBA history in 2010.

Anyway, the media doesn't fawn over Miami the way it does other franchises, but objectively there are only 3 other franchises that are in the conversation when comparing what Miami has accomplished as a team in terms of winning games and championships and with the amount of HOF, star-studded players to play for the franchise over the last 30 years + the incredible player development: the LA Lakers, the Boston Celtics, and the San Antonio Spurs.

Pat Riley has brought the franchise the credibility and the stability it needed to make Miami a destination for the best of the best to play for the franchise.

Just to show you how different things could have been, Miami and Charlotte entered the league in 1988 followed by Minnesota and Orlando in 1989. Toronto and Vancouver followed in 1995. Charlotte lost its franchise to New Orleans and Vancouver moved to Memphis. Of all these teams, the only other team that has won a championship is Toronto. The only other team to play in the Finals is Orlando, and that was in 1995.

And I WILL take this opportunity to **** on the Knicks, who got the best of Miami in the late 90s, but have (until recently) languished in total irrelevance, while Miami has been built into one of the preeminent franchises in the NBA.

Thank you, Pat Riley!


Shoutout to the true Heat fans who were around in the early 2000s—those who stuck with the team through all the highs and lows.

Man, 2002 feels like a whole different era compared to today.
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Post#170 » by SA37 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:29 pm

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Tim_Hardawayy wrote:On the point of roster construction, who gets credit when undrafted players pan out and get turned into rotation players? Who gets credit when draft picks work out (Bam, Herro, Jaquez, Jovic, Ware etc)?

Conversely, who here owns it when they hoot and holler that a move needs to be made "just because", it happens, you get the guy and you celebrate when it happens (Rozier) and he turns into a net negative on a bad deal?

I get it, everyone wants the home run move. But what about when you get the home run (Jimmy) and you just can't get the back2back? Is there no credit for the first part? Would you rather we just sit on our hands and enjoy "the process" for 5 years or a decade?

It reminds me of the criticism LeBron gets sometimes for Finals losses (2011 aside), as if it would have been better had he not made the Finals at all some of those years so people couldn't hold that against him. Maybe people on this board would be more content if Riley just tanked for a few years like Pop to get a Wemby? Nah, who am I kidding, they'd tear him apart. Or just stop watching altogether.


There are (I think) only a handful of folks who still post here who might remember BBallFreak and me writing book-length posts going back and forth about what Miami needed to do after the Eddie Jones-Brian Grant signings turned sour after Mourning's sudden medically-induced retirement. In summary, I was all for trading absolutely everyone -- even for pennies on the dollar -- for expirings and draft picks, shamelessly tanking to get a high pick (where I thought we had the best chance of getting a star), and using cap space to sign free agents; BBallFreak was much more aligned with Pat Riley's approach of maintaining a competitive roster and not "throwing the baby out with the bathwater."

In the end, we were both proven right to some degree. Our star did come from a high draft pick after a terrible season (D Wade*) and Miami was able to sign Lamar Odom in FA using cap space thanks to Anthony Carter's forgetful agent; at the same time the guys Riley kept around were included in the trades that landed Miami Shaquille O'Neal, Antoine Walker, Jason Williams, and James Posey. (*it is worth noting Riley has admitted he wanted Chris Kaman and had to be talked into drafting D Wade.)

Then Riley pulled off the greatest FA heist in NBA history in 2010.

Anyway, the media doesn't fawn over Miami the way it does other franchises, but objectively there are only 3 other franchises that are in the conversation when comparing what Miami has accomplished as a team in terms of winning games and championships and with the amount of HOF, star-studded players to play for the franchise over the last 30 years + the incredible player development: the LA Lakers, the Boston Celtics, and the San Antonio Spurs.

Pat Riley has brought the franchise the credibility and the stability it needed to make Miami a destination for the best of the best to play for the franchise.

Just to show you how different things could have been, Miami and Charlotte entered the league in 1988 followed by Minnesota and Orlando in 1989. Toronto and Vancouver followed in 1995. Charlotte lost its franchise to New Orleans and Vancouver moved to Memphis. Of all these teams, the only other team that has won a championship is Toronto. The only other team to play in the Finals is Orlando, and that was in 1995.

And I WILL take this opportunity to **** on the Knicks, who got the best of Miami in the late 90s, but have (until recently) languished in total irrelevance, while Miami has been built into one of the preeminent franchises in the NBA.

Thank you, Pat Riley!


Shoutout to the true Heat fans who were around in the early 2000s—those who stuck with the team through all the highs and lows.

Man, 2002 feels like a whole different era compared to today.


I still remember in the early 2000s when Miami had the Sprite card promotion that allowed you to get the best seats available for $10. I got to sit behind the basket at a couple of games thanks to that promotion! :lol:
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Post#171 » by Pokuokic » Sat Jan 11, 2025 12:50 pm

Random thought could the Heat actually be showcasing all the young guys to try maybe entice a team to land a Fox or Zion in a package centered around JJJ/Jovic/Ware/Robinson/Rozier (obviously not all of them)? Than you would have a big 4 if you can convince Jimmy this is a playoff team that can win it.
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Post#172 » by contract » Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:38 pm

Pokuokic wrote:Random thought could the Heat actually be showcasing all the young guys to try maybe entice a team to land a Fox or Zion in a package centered around JJJ/Jovic/Ware/Robinson/Rozier (obviously not all of them)? Than you would have a big 4 if you can convince Jimmy this is a playoff team that can win it.

The Miami Heat are not trading for Zion. Put that out of your mind.

I'm not sure we'd take him for free.

I can't believe that this needs to be said on a Miami Heat forum, but the Heat are not trading for a fat, lazy, injury-prone player who doesn't give a damn and is owed another $140 million.
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Post#173 » by Lennyzinho » Sat Jan 11, 2025 1:50 pm

Bmaster wrote:
Shewasfly wrote:
marson wrote:
That 30-11 run is just cemented in my mind that I can no longer question Spo.

Spo definitely deserves the criticism sometimes for sure. But a lot of times it reaches the point of absurdity. That’s where I’m like ppl need to be reminded how lucky we are to have him. He’s a top 3 coach, period.

Only criticism of spo is not playing bam and ware together some. Just a couple minutes a game just to try it. And not playing rookies early like Ware.


I agree with you but I also think there's no time for teams to practice and there's too many games and too much traveling. If they shortened the season to 72 games or stretched it out over longer period of time etc, teams would be able to rest more and practice/prepare more and i think in that case we'd see rookies play more often and less lineup tinkering. Spo is always messing with lineups but without practice he needs to see it in action. It's something all coaches and teams complain about. I know we feel like it costs us games when he tinkers with bad lineups but he's the man.
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Post#174 » by greg4012 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:02 pm

3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I wonder how things would’ve turned out if my guy Randy Embry didn’t fight for Wade on draft night and finally convince Pat to draft him. Draft is always such a crap shoot, that’s why you need elite scout teams, Randy was exactly that


You mean an executive surrounded himself with capable professionals? Wow! What a lucky occurrence
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Post#175 » by greg4012 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:05 pm

SA37 wrote:
Tim_Hardawayy wrote:On the point of roster construction, who gets credit when undrafted players pan out and get turned into rotation players? Who gets credit when draft picks work out (Bam, Herro, Jaquez, Jovic, Ware etc)?

Conversely, who here owns it when they hoot and holler that a move needs to be made "just because", it happens, you get the guy and you celebrate when it happens (Rozier) and he turns into a net negative on a bad deal?

I get it, everyone wants the home run move. But what about when you get the home run (Jimmy) and you just can't get the back2back? Is there no credit for the first part? Would you rather we just sit on our hands and enjoy "the process" for 5 years or a decade?

It reminds me of the criticism LeBron gets sometimes for Finals losses (2011 aside), as if it would have been better had he not made the Finals at all some of those years so people couldn't hold that against him. Maybe people on this board would be more content if Riley just tanked for a few years like Pop to get a Wemby? Nah, who am I kidding, they'd tear him apart. Or just stop watching altogether.


There are (I think) only a handful of folks who still post here who might remember BBallFreak and me writing book-length posts going back and forth about what Miami needed to do after the Eddie Jones-Brian Grant signings turned sour after Mourning's sudden medically-induced retirement. In summary, I was all for trading absolutely everyone -- even for pennies on the dollar -- for expirings and draft picks, shamelessly tanking to get a high pick (where I thought we had the best chance of getting a star), and using cap space to sign free agents; BBallFreak was much more aligned with Pat Riley's approach of maintaining a competitive roster and not "throwing the baby out with the bathwater."

In the end, we were both proven right to some degree. Our star did come from a high draft pick after a terrible season (D Wade*) and Miami was able to sign Lamar Odom in FA using cap space thanks to Anthony Carter's forgetful agent; at the same time the guys Riley kept around were included in the trades that landed Miami Shaquille O'Neal, Antoine Walker, Jason Williams, and James Posey. (*it is worth noting Riley has admitted he wanted Chris Kaman and had to be talked into drafting D Wade.)

Then Riley pulled off the greatest FA heist in NBA history in 2010.

Anyway, the media doesn't fawn over Miami the way it does other franchises, but objectively there are only 3 other franchises that are in the conversation when comparing what Miami has accomplished as a team in terms of winning games and championships and with the amount of HOF, star-studded players to play for the franchise over the last 30 years + the incredible player development + the coaching staff development: the LA Lakers, the Boston Celtics, and the San Antonio Spurs. And there is almost no one on Riley's level as a GM (except maybe Jerry West and Greg Popovich) and as a coach (Popovich and Phil Jackson).

Pat Riley has brought the franchise the credibility and the stability it needed to make Miami a destination for the best of the best to play for the franchise.

Just to show you how different things could have been, Miami and Charlotte entered the league in 1988 followed by Minnesota and Orlando in 1989. Toronto and Vancouver followed in 1995. Charlotte lost its franchise to New Orleans and Vancouver moved to Memphis. Of all these teams, the only other team that has won a championship is Toronto. The only other team to play in the Finals is Orlando, and that was in 1995.

And I WILL take this opportunity to **** on the Knicks, who got the best of Miami in the late 90s, but have (until recently) languished in total irrelevance, while Miami has been built into one of the preeminent franchises in the NBA.

Thank you, Pat Riley!


Have to add GSW as another franchise that’s in this convo due to the peaks of their run (all with same core tho).

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Post#176 » by twix2500 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:23 pm

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BBallFreak wrote:That's just it, though - we don't have to overachieve. You better be glad we do, because when it's over... It's over...

We are a bad front office away from being the Wizards.


people believe its easy to build a roster. Just go and get all the players I like that are having a good year.

Constructing a roster has got to be easier than what Spo is asked to do most years. If the job was easy it wouldn't pay as well as it does. If it was easy the job wouldn't have come with a minority stake in the franchise.

I have no idea why everyone is accountable in this organization except the guy in charge.


No one is saying the FO didn't do enough to win a chip. But many insinuated the Heat did a bad job. And the excuses people are using for these emo feelings is because the Heat found talent that are not highly known names through unconventional ways. It doesn't matter where you find talent as long as you have them. Remember John Starks and Anthony Mason were found off the streets and both became all-stars. But in same breath people crying about Vincent and Strus being let go. The goal was to build a championship team, not lets go find friends of Butler. The Heat built a title contending team in 2022. They were number 1 in the east and Butler missed the game winning shot. That failure is on Butler. LET ME REPEAT, THE HEAT WERE THE NUMBER 1 SEED IN THE EAST AND MISSED THE NBA FINALS BECAUSE BUTLER MISSED THE GAME WINNING SHOT. In each year key players were hurt. There has only been one over achieving year and that was 2023.


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Post#177 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jan 11, 2025 2:55 pm

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3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I wonder how things would’ve turned out if my guy Randy Embry didn’t fight for Wade on draft night and finally convince Pat to draft him. Draft is always such a crap shoot, that’s why you need elite scout teams, Randy was exactly that


You mean an executive surrounded himself with capable professionals? Wow! What a lucky occurrence


I know Pat being washed is taking its toll on everyone so we’re in here reliving the glory days, this was the biggest franchise altering move so it came to mind.
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Post#178 » by greg4012 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:00 pm

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greg4012 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:I wonder how things would’ve turned out if my guy Randy Embry didn’t fight for Wade on draft night and finally convince Pat to draft him. Draft is always such a crap shoot, that’s why you need elite scout teams, Randy was exactly that


You mean an executive surrounded himself with capable professionals? Wow! What a lucky occurrence


I know Pat being washed is taking its toll on everyone so we’re in here reliving the glory days, this was the biggest franchise altering move so it came to mind.


Is this where you do your false bravado projecting thing?
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Post#179 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:00 pm

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Re: 2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4 

Post#180 » by 3ammy3uck3ts » Sat Jan 11, 2025 3:02 pm

greg4012 wrote:
3ammy3uck3ts wrote:
greg4012 wrote:
You mean an executive surrounded himself with capable professionals? Wow! What a lucky occurrence


I know Pat being washed is taking its toll on everyone so we’re in here reliving the glory days, this was the biggest franchise altering move so it came to mind.


Is this where you do your false bravado projecting thing?


Sure!!
#FreeBam
#Klutch

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