PG: Knicks vs. Thunder: BELT-TO-ASS GAME

[Context]

The thing about NY fans we may be crazy but we not dumb. We see whatever they tryna execute not being executed. Something is off with locker room. They not sharing the ball how they use to. Not force feeding Towns. Is it because Towns got more votes than Brunson? We gotta figure it out.

Since day 1 I told y’all I don’t like Thibs. Overplay starters, don’t trust young players, predictable let the players create offense, offense. Man to man drop same old coverage. The wins and playing starters getting wins made yall love him. I keep telling yall he’s not good. This is mainly x/o’s. I told yall he had RJ in a corner. Now he has OG in a corner. Look man, he’s not the guy.

I just started watching last December...I agree with you now
We have a great core-I'm excited about it...I feel sorry for Thibs because I can tell hes a good person and very committed to his beliefs. I can respect that but I think it's clear he will never evolve...

There literally had to be a media push about him going around to coaches tryna get modernized. The way we have been playing not shooting 3s at a high clip is all Thibs . Dude hates being modern.

If we had Brunson, Kat, MIkal, OG and Hart, Hart, Hart, Hart, Hart, Mitch, Suggs...we could play his style and win a chip

[Clyde_Style]

This is the most accountability I’ve seen from him. He must feel the pressure from Leon.

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He might be losing the team.

Tom is a cool guy. They need to "promote" him to an office job.

As head coach, he cannot take the Knicks, or any team, to the promised land.

Problem is, he just got paid. He's our Aaron Rogers now.

That won't be the issue.

Dolan ate Phil's $50M contract without batting an eyelash

A successful team is worth more to Dolan than the cost of taking a hit on Thibs deal

[F N 11]

I said losing this man would be bad, I didn’t know it would get this bad.

[Clyde_Style]

This team has issues that are beyond Thibs

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Jalen ...

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It's a great time for me, as the fanbase turns on Jalen Brunson, as of course they inevitably would with Randle no longer here.

You've fattened up considerably. These Winter months won't bother you now

[F N 11]

I just started watching last December...I agree with you now
We have a great core-I'm excited about it...I feel sorry for Thibs because I can tell hes a good person and very committed to his beliefs. I can respect that but I think it's clear he will never evolve...

There literally had to be a media push about him going around to coaches tryna get modernized. The way we have been playing not shooting 3s at a high clip is all Thibs . Dude hates being modern.

If we had Brunson, Kat, MIkal, OG and Hart, Hart, Hart, Hart, Hart, Mitch, Suggs...we could play his style and win a chip

Don’t forget a loaded bench with 4 vets max who played 5 or more years Known for defense. Don’t give him 10 because someone would be unhappy

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I just started watching last December...I agree with you now
We have a great core-I'm excited about it...I feel sorry for Thibs because I can tell hes a good person and very committed to his beliefs. I can respect that but I think it's clear he will never evolve...

There literally had to be a media push about him going around to coaches tryna get modernized. The way we have been playing not shooting 3s at a high clip is all Thibs . Dude hates being modern.

If we had Brunson, Kat, MIkal, OG and Hart, Hart, Hart, Hart, Hart, Mitch, Suggs...we could play his style and win a chip

I just don't think he's a championship coach, the league has passed him by. If Pop doesn't come back Thibs is the oldest coach in the league, he's 10-20 years older than all the guys who are considered the best.

We really missed out on not promoting Johnnie when we had the chance.

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks need to promote Dadiet and play him a lot. That will solve everything.

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Thibs would crush his confidence in 3 games with the mega quick hooks

[Clyde_Style]

Go look at last year's footage of Johnnie Bryant vs this years footage of Rick Brunson. Not only does our head coach suck but so do our assistants. Brunson brings absolutely nothing. Bryant was constantly in Thibs ear last season and it's safe to assume had a lot of influence in his in game decisions. Bryant is doing the same thing with Atkinson this year and it's taken the Cavs to a championship level. Not only did we lose some key players but we lost key guys on our coaching staff as well.

Truly a missed opportunity

[F N 11]

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This is kinda crazy

[Fat Kat]

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[The KnicksFix]

He might be losing the team.

Tom is a cool guy. They need to "promote" him to an office job.

As head coach, he cannot take the Knicks, or any team, to the promised land.

Problem is, he just got paid. He's our Aaron Rogers now.

That won't be the issue.

Dolan ate Phil's $50M contract without batting an eyelash

A successful team is worth more to Dolan than the cost of taking a hit on Thibs deal

I agree, I don’t get why some fans think just because he got an extension that he can’t get fired. Larry Brown inked a 40 million dollar extension, and was promptly fired, with arbitration he was eventually paid 18.5 of that 40 mil. Just think about that. He was paid 18.5 million to not coach them.

[Gravy]

The Gravy has no seasoning, my man the Bucks fired Adrian Griffin last year with the 2nd best record in the NBA

For Doc Rivers great example lmao. You told me you want Dice Yoshimoto to be our next coach. Lets see if they do that

Shame you have to lie so much.

We had Johnnie Bryant, he should have been promoted. We still have Dice, but he's a Thibs disciple so who knows. But there has to be a coach that is more willing to try different things and adjust based on who we're playing.

Dice could be interim, but acting like there's no other coaches out there is comical. Like Mazzulla, Daignault, Jenkins were household names before they got coaching jobs. The Celtics let Ime go and had Mazzulla right there, it says a lot about Thibs if his coaching tree doesn't have any success stories.

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Brunson is the reason, he is a top 10 player on his own merit and talent. There is no bigger reason for us being a contender moving forward than him being a superstar on deal vastly underpaying him relative to his performance. The Celtics should be a good indication of player vs coach, I mean Ime is a great coach, but the players matter more.

Which coach? Upgrade Bryant or Dice, the culture is set. I don't want to go through another season of watching guys drop like flies before and during the playoffs.

You've always hated Thibs and think anybody else could do a much better job. So lets all tell Dolan to make Dice the coach since Thibs is close to getting fired any day now.

[DaGawd]

Pretty obvious Hart is talking about Brunson. I can see FO trading him for another piece.

this is ridiculous if anyone actually believes this

[TKKnicks1]

Sprewell would have been Thibs wet dream.

In Latrell Sprewell’s 13-year career:

• 38.6 minutes per game & 41.1 minutes per game in 62 playoff games
• 1x All-NBA/All-Defensive TeamPlayed 80+ games 6 times
• 3x All-Star & 1x All-NBA/All-Defensive Team
• No major injuries, No rest days, & No plays off
• 43.1 minutes per game in 82 games in 1994 & 41.1 minutes per game in 81 games in 2002

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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It's really amazing how we don't use KAT at the top of the key as a passing hub, he can emulate a lot of what IHart did, yet we don't do it. The bench is obviously to blame for that.

[F N 11]

This team has issues that are beyond Thibs

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It will be a moment of clarity when everyone realizes the ego he is talking about is thibs and his ridiculous stubbornness and unwillingness to change and adapt

Insane never thought about it like this.

[F N 11]

whoever coaches this team needs to realise that Jalen Brunson is a mix of Iverson, Harden, Curry and Billups and not a mix of Stockton, Payton, Kidd and Nash... If you want him to be a superstar and MVP caliber player you need at least one more fascilitator who can also shoot above 40% from three with him constantly on the floor and run him more off curls, back screens and finding him open on the weaksides off the ball like Curry does and was doing in the playoffs after struggling might in his first 2 or 3 postseasons runs... at least when the opponent puts a big wing on him or traps and double teams all the time... or even when he is full court pressured... you also cant leave the opp defense to settle down with having him dribbling the ball for 10+ seconds just to bring the ball up court... thats all coaching... dont forget that they are only actors and they can only do so little to improvise something when the script is broken or they forget a line or two of the script

We been needing a pass first point guard forever for the bench. Payne is not it.

[F N 11]

This is the most accountability I’ve seen from him. He must feel the pressure from Leon.

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He might be losing the team.

Tom is a cool guy. They need to "promote" him to an office job.

As head coach, he cannot take the Knicks, or any team, to the promised land.

Let him down easy keeping him in a role. I like this idea.

[Clyde_Style]

As I said in the OP, this was a belt-to-ass game, and OKC had the leather to the Knicks' backside all night.

-Brunson didn't organize well enough that Bridges and OG could be effective. While OKC's defense was on point, that was the time the wings can get aggressive and attack them, but they didn't, and that's on Brunson not organizing them.

-KAT was suppose to be the dude that brings out bigs to the perimeter, but they put J-Dub on him, and I thought he would punish him on the block, but they didn't go to that often.

-Josh showed if he's not taking open shots, it makes defending this team that much easier.

-The bench is too below average, which is a coaching issue. Starters should have more rest, but in the 2nd quarter, Thibs didn't have Brunson nor Towns on the court.

It's not helpful that for $40 million, OG has the offensive repertoire of Charles Oakley

OG's offense is actually very helpful when he is utilized well in an ancillary fashion. He cannot be a featured player on offense, because his attempt to create from above the key is too easy to defend. But his outlets, back doors, cuts and spot up shooting has been very effective when the team is harmonized on offense.

Also, for a guy as strong as OG, he has the odd tendency of collapsing to the floor when his crouch goes too low when making a move. It started happening right after his 40 bagger and is happening occasionally now presumably due to fatigue.

If OG is fresh, his post-up game within 10 feet of the basket can actually be competent, but he's not fresh and it results in dubious handles. Guy looks pretty crispy lately which will show up first on the offensive end.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

For Doc Rivers great example lmao. You told me you want Dice Yoshimoto to be our next coach. Lets see if they do that

Shame you have to lie so much.

We had Johnnie Bryant, he should have been promoted. We still have Dice, but he's a Thibs disciple so who knows. But there has to be a coach that is more willing to try different things and adjust based on who we're playing.

Dice could be interim, but acting like there's no other coaches out there is comical. Like Mazzulla, Daignault, Jenkins were household names before they got coaching jobs. The Celtics let Ime go and had Mazzulla right there, it says a lot about Thibs if his coaching tree doesn't have any success stories.

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Brunson is the reason, he is a top 10 player on his own merit and talent. There is no bigger reason for us being a contender moving forward than him being a superstar on deal vastly underpaying him relative to his performance. The Celtics should be a good indication of player vs coach, I mean Ime is a great coach, but the players matter more.

Which coach? Upgrade Bryant or Dice, the culture is set. I don't want to go through another season of watching guys drop like flies before and during the playoffs.

You've always hated Thibs and think anybody else could do a much better job. So lets all tell Dolan to make Dice the coach since Thibs is close to getting fired any day now.

Hey Gravy, how can we upgrade Bryant if he's gone? Why am I mentioning that Bryant is gone in the other post but want to upgrade him in the one you posted, that's right, because you're using an older post. Even then, I'd take Dice as an interim coach, we're not winning a title this year with Thibs anyway, just as we won't win one with Dice.


I don't hate Thibs, I don't hate anyone, this is you just applying some nonsense because you're emotional about this. I do however want him gone, and I have been talking about his minutes abuse since last season.