Fire Steve Kerr?

[Romulus]

Has he been a good coach? Was he the right guy at the right time? Sure. But just like Mike Brown is a good coach, sometimes change is necessary. The players seem to have tuned Kerr out. The tiny ball lineups now appear flawed and hopeless.

Is it time?

[Romulus]

11 votes so far. Not one to keep Kerr. Yeah, we've had enough.

[Onus]

For the people who voted no, can you let me know what he does well? This season, not what he’s done or accomplished in the past.

[whatisacenter]

I voted no.

What’s the point in firing him? The roster stinks and as long as Draymond is on the team they are limited to what they can do offensively so I see no point in firing Kerr mid-season.

I also think it would take Curry pushing for his firing and that’s not going to happen.

Maybe if Lacob thinks the roster is better than it is, I dunno?

[Onus]

I voted no.

What’s the point in firing him? The roster stinks and as long as Draymond is on the team they are limited to what they can do offensively so I see no point in firing Kerr mid-season.

I also think it would take Curry pushing for his firing and that’s not going to happen.

Maybe if Lacob thinks the roster is better than it is, I dunno?

So not that Kerr is good at anything just not midseason and is unlikely to change anything.

[CDM_Stats]

For the people who voted no, can you let me know what he does well? This season, not what he’s done or accomplished in the past.

I obviously don’t like the job he’s doing, but reality is he won’t be fired so don’t see the point in wringing my hands about impossible situations. Like if I believed Post should play 30 mins, I’m not going to stress about it. Won’t happen

I may be stretching the realm of possibility in thinking Kerr will start Hield/Loon or play an isolated PnR game with Schroder off the bench.. that’s as far into unrealistic I’m willing to go

[whatisacenter]

I voted no.

What’s the point in firing him? The roster stinks and as long as Draymond is on the team they are limited to what they can do offensively so I see no point in firing Kerr mid-season.

I also think it would take Curry pushing for his firing and that’s not going to happen.

Maybe if Lacob thinks the roster is better than it is, I dunno?

So not that Kerr is good at anything just not midseason and is unlikely to change anything.

Even though I don't always agree with how he has handled young players or how he has handled rotations I still think Kerr is a good coach.

I also don't think Curry has any interest in firing Kerr and it would take that or Lacob believing the roster is underachieving to make a move mid-season.

[Onus]

For the people who voted no, can you let me know what he does well? This season, not what he’s done or accomplished in the past.

I obviously don’t like the job he’s doing, but reality is he won’t be fired so don’t see the point in wringing my hands about impossible situations. Like if I believed Post should play 30 mins, I’m not going to stress about it. Won’t happen

I may be stretching the realm of possibility in thinking Kerr will start Hield/Loon or play an isolated PnR game with Schroder off the bench.. that’s as far into unrealistic I’m willing to go

I agree Kerr isn’t going to get fired.

[Onus]

I voted no.

What’s the point in firing him? The roster stinks and as long as Draymond is on the team they are limited to what they can do offensively so I see no point in firing Kerr mid-season.

I also think it would take Curry pushing for his firing and that’s not going to happen.

Maybe if Lacob thinks the roster is better than it is, I dunno?

So not that Kerr is good at anything just not midseason and is unlikely to change anything.

Even though I don't always agree with how he has handled young players or how he has handled rotations I still think Kerr is a good coach.

I also don't think Curry has any interest in firing Kerr and it would take that or Lacob believing the roster is underachieving to make a move mid-season.

What makes you think he’s a good coach? Like what specifically? I’m just curious, like what does he have left?

He has some good atos. His overarching philosophy is good. He’s able to manage minutes well for the long game. But after that I struggle to find anything else positive.

I agree Kerr won’t get fired.

[GQ Hot Dog]

For the people who voted no, can you let me know what he does well? This season, not what he’s done or accomplished in the past.

Kerr is single-handedly keeping the two time lines possibility alive. I know nobody agrees with me here, but I credit Kerr with developing Kuminga into a winning player by relentlessly holding him accountable rather than just letting him wallow in the malaise of so many uber-talents that put up stats but can't win. Same thing with Podz who Kerr gushes about when appropriate and excoriates him when necessary.

[jaymo123]

For the people who voted no, can you let me know what he does well? This season, not what he’s done or accomplished in the past.

Kerr is single-handedly keeping the two time lines possibility alive. I know nobody agrees with me here, but I credit Kerr with developing Kuminga into a winning player by relentlessly holding him accountable rather than just letting him wallow in the malaise of so many uber-talents that put up stats but can't win. Same thing with Podz who Kerr gushes about when appropriate and excoriates him when necessary.

I understand accountability, but I think having them in and out of the lineups hasn't really worked. If the Dubs envision Kuminga as the starter of the future, he needs to learn how to play consistently with the starters. Mistakes will happen, but he needs go through trial and error.

[jaymo123]

I've been wanting Kerr and Dray gone since the title win. I don't like what Kerr has done with the younger players, his lack of creativity when it comes to players who don't fit his system, his rotations, the Olympic rotations, etc.

[tal57]

Kerr is a good coach.....for the right team.
This version of the Warriors is not the right team for him. Simple as that. He is lost with this version of the team and has no idea what to do other than with starting his stalworth starters, Curry, Green and Wiggins. And thus, he can't squeeze anything out of the rest of the team. His searches with everything around what should have been more or less obvious point precisely to that show and tell.

[SpreeS]

Everyone knows what weakness Kerr has (rotations, young players developing, fitting players in his system). But man, I can live with that. What is one of the most important great coaches characteristic? In game adjustments!!! This helps to win a lot of games on the way. And Kerr is one of the worst coach at adjustmets in the game.

[Onus]

For the people who voted no, can you let me know what he does well? This season, not what he’s done or accomplished in the past.

Kerr is single-handedly keeping the two time lines possibility alive. I know nobody agrees with me here, but I credit Kerr with developing Kuminga into a winning player by relentlessly holding him accountable rather than just letting him wallow in the malaise of so many uber-talents that put up stats but can't win. Same thing with Podz who Kerr gushes about when appropriate and excoriates him when necessary.

I can agree with this. He’s actually done a pretty good job with jk. No matter how many people think he should just get as many minutes as possible or should be a starter, jk has improved under Kerr. Though it’s usually just in stretches then he gets hurt and then has to be rebuilt back up.

[CDM_Stats]

For the people who voted no, can you let me know what he does well? This season, not what he’s done or accomplished in the past.

Kerr is single-handedly keeping the two time lines possibility alive. I know nobody agrees with me here, but I credit Kerr with developing Kuminga into a winning player by relentlessly holding him accountable rather than just letting him wallow in the malaise of so many uber-talents that put up stats but can't win. Same thing with Podz who Kerr gushes about when appropriate and excoriates him when necessary.

I can agree with this. He’s actually done a pretty good job with jk. No matter how many people think he should just get as many minutes as possible or should be a starter, jk has improved under Kerr. Though it’s usually just in stretches then he gets hurt and then has to be rebuilt back up.

His scoring has improved marginally... what else? Just like last year, JK's got an extreme benefit of being the only archetype on the team who can drive and score inside.. that Kerr is using him better, IE off the bench and then adjusting his minutes based on situation, doesnt show marked improvement. In fact, his scoring efficiency is down across the board since last year, except from 3pt. He's improved in terms of FTA, but the defense and rebounding are in the same hole they've always been

Situational improvement, not skills improvement. Happens all the time - GP2, Wiggins, OPJ: guys who have the same skillsets but are put in better situations to thrive. In JK's case, as soon as Poole left he *improves* as the team goes to him more with his most marketable skillset, which is scoring in isolation and cutting

He's certainly not a winning player, not yet. In fact he's just providing more and more evidence that his best situation is an off the bench scorer, and the question is if he believes he can be more. If so, why does he only sporadically play defense and rebound? 4 years with marginal improvement is not inspiring at all

[Onus]

Kerr is single-handedly keeping the two time lines possibility alive. I know nobody agrees with me here, but I credit Kerr with developing Kuminga into a winning player by relentlessly holding him accountable rather than just letting him wallow in the malaise of so many uber-talents that put up stats but can't win. Same thing with Podz who Kerr gushes about when appropriate and excoriates him when necessary.

I can agree with this. He’s actually done a pretty good job with jk. No matter how many people think he should just get as many minutes as possible or should be a starter, jk has improved under Kerr. Though it’s usually just in stretches then he gets hurt and then has to be rebuilt back up.

His scoring has improved marginally... what else? Just like last year, JK's got an extreme benefit of being the only archetype on the team who can drive and score inside.. that Kerr is using him better, IE off the bench and then adjusting his minutes based on situation, doesnt show marked improvement. In fact, his scoring efficiency is down across the board since last year, except from 3pt. He's improved in terms of FTA, but the defense and rebounding are in the same hole they've always been

Situational improvement, not skills improvement. Happens all the time - GP2, Wiggins, OPJ: guys who have the same skillsets but are put in better situations to thrive. In JK's case, as soon as Poole left he *improves* as the team goes to him more with his most marketable skillset, which is scoring in isolation and cutting

He's certainly not a winning player, not yet. In fact he's just providing more and more evidence that his best situation is an off the bench scorer, and the question is if he believes he can be more. If so, why does he only sporadically play defense and rebound? 4 years with marginal improvement is not inspiring at all

I’m really only talking about jks last 5 games not his entire season.

He was moving the ball, making the correct reads, finishing off the plays being created for him. His defense wasn’t killing us. But before those 5 games yea he wasn’t really good. That was situational where we were asking him to create for himself and others and he failed at that.

He’s not worth what he thinks he is, but to say he hasn’t improved at all in 4 years is just a lousy take.

[superunknown]

I can agree with this. He’s actually done a pretty good job with jk. No matter how many people think he should just get as many minutes as possible or should be a starter, jk has improved under Kerr. Though it’s usually just in stretches then he gets hurt and then has to be rebuilt back up.

His scoring has improved marginally... what else? Just like last year, JK's got an extreme benefit of being the only archetype on the team who can drive and score inside.. that Kerr is using him better, IE off the bench and then adjusting his minutes based on situation, doesnt show marked improvement. In fact, his scoring efficiency is down across the board since last year, except from 3pt. He's improved in terms of FTA, but the defense and rebounding are in the same hole they've always been

Situational improvement, not skills improvement. Happens all the time - GP2, Wiggins, OPJ: guys who have the same skillsets but are put in better situations to thrive. In JK's case, as soon as Poole left he *improves* as the team goes to him more with his most marketable skillset, which is scoring in isolation and cutting

He's certainly not a winning player, not yet. In fact he's just providing more and more evidence that his best situation is an off the bench scorer, and the question is if he believes he can be more. If so, why does he only sporadically play defense and rebound? 4 years with marginal improvement is not inspiring at all

I’m really only talking about jks last 5 games not his entire season.

He was moving the ball, making the correct reads, finishing off the plays being created for him. His defense wasn’t killing us. But before those 5 games yea he wasn’t really good. That was situational where we were asking him to create for himself and others and he failed at that.

He’s not worth what he thinks he is, but to say he hasn’t improved at all in 4 years is just a lousy take.

yes, but it's only normal that someone who entered the league 18 years of age and played 4 years has improved somehow, the anomaly would be the opposite.

[CDM_Stats]

I can agree with this. He’s actually done a pretty good job with jk. No matter how many people think he should just get as many minutes as possible or should be a starter, jk has improved under Kerr. Though it’s usually just in stretches then he gets hurt and then has to be rebuilt back up.

His scoring has improved marginally... what else? Just like last year, JK's got an extreme benefit of being the only archetype on the team who can drive and score inside.. that Kerr is using him better, IE off the bench and then adjusting his minutes based on situation, doesnt show marked improvement. In fact, his scoring efficiency is down across the board since last year, except from 3pt. He's improved in terms of FTA, but the defense and rebounding are in the same hole they've always been

Situational improvement, not skills improvement. Happens all the time - GP2, Wiggins, OPJ: guys who have the same skillsets but are put in better situations to thrive. In JK's case, as soon as Poole left he *improves* as the team goes to him more with his most marketable skillset, which is scoring in isolation and cutting

He's certainly not a winning player, not yet. In fact he's just providing more and more evidence that his best situation is an off the bench scorer, and the question is if he believes he can be more. If so, why does he only sporadically play defense and rebound? 4 years with marginal improvement is not inspiring at all

I’m really only talking about jks last 5 games not his entire season.

He was moving the ball, making the correct reads, finishing off the plays being created for him. His defense wasn’t killing us. But before those 5 games yea he wasn’t really good. That was situational where we were asking him to create for himself and others and he failed at that.

He’s not worth what he thinks he is, but to say he hasn’t improved at all in 4 years is just a lousy take.

5 games? Just enough time to turn a corner I guess.. like the numerous other times he's turned a corner

He was a scorer that had some downhill passing ability when he entered the league.. if his improvement is that he sometimes strings a few games together before going back to the same mistakes, that's not improvement. Its not development. It's opportunity

Thankfully there are metrics and peripherals and other things that can accurately track said development.. and again its marginal. His floor upon being drafted was a bench scorer.. and thats what he is 4 years later. Doesnt mean he'll always be one, but if it requires zooming in to a very small # of games and a bunch of minor things that don't actually move the needle game to game, along with the same subpar defense, boxing out, and rebounding.. sure if you want to give Kerr credit for that, that's fine. Just not much meat on that bone

Not entirely Kerr's fault though.. he's only been given 2 players via the draft who actually fit a motion offense. Poole, who eventually went into business for himself as well as never playing defense, and Podz, who's fine, just very limited and definitely not a PG. Wiseman, JK, Moody (shockingly, tbh), PBJ, TJD.. they just aren't motion players. Its a very tough system to fit. Its why I'm optimistic on MDJ also - he found a guy that fit via the draft. Its too late for it to matter and they severely overrate him, but still... young guys that can play motion are tough to find. Moody should have fit, and hard to work out exactly why he hasnt as well as he should

[Onus]

His scoring has improved marginally... what else? Just like last year, JK's got an extreme benefit of being the only archetype on the team who can drive and score inside.. that Kerr is using him better, IE off the bench and then adjusting his minutes based on situation, doesnt show marked improvement. In fact, his scoring efficiency is down across the board since last year, except from 3pt. He's improved in terms of FTA, but the defense and rebounding are in the same hole they've always been

Situational improvement, not skills improvement. Happens all the time - GP2, Wiggins, OPJ: guys who have the same skillsets but are put in better situations to thrive. In JK's case, as soon as Poole left he *improves* as the team goes to him more with his most marketable skillset, which is scoring in isolation and cutting

He's certainly not a winning player, not yet. In fact he's just providing more and more evidence that his best situation is an off the bench scorer, and the question is if he believes he can be more. If so, why does he only sporadically play defense and rebound? 4 years with marginal improvement is not inspiring at all

I’m really only talking about jks last 5 games not his entire season.

He was moving the ball, making the correct reads, finishing off the plays being created for him. His defense wasn’t killing us. But before those 5 games yea he wasn’t really good. That was situational where we were asking him to create for himself and others and he failed at that.

He’s not worth what he thinks he is, but to say he hasn’t improved at all in 4 years is just a lousy take.

5 games? Just enough time to turn a corner I guess.. like the numerous other times he's turned a corner

He was a scorer that had some downhill passing ability when he entered the league.. if his improvement is that he sometimes strings a few games together before going back to the same mistakes, that's not improvement. Its not development. It's opportunity

Thankfully there are metrics and peripherals and other things that can accurately track said development.. and again its marginal. His floor upon being drafted was a bench scorer.. and thats what he is 4 years later. Doesnt mean he'll always be one, but if it requires zooming in to a very small # of games and a bunch of minor things that don't actually move the needle game to game, along with the same subpar defense, boxing out, and rebounding.. sure if you want to give Kerr credit for that, that's fine. Just not much meat on that bone

He was turning a corner last year as well and then got hurt and then was out of the rotation. He was turning a corner this year and then got hurt. We’ll see what he looks like when he comes back but not holding my breath.

His floor was not bench scorer it actually much worse. His floor was out of the league. He was a negative player as a rookie. He’s improved to be neutral as a bench scorer. His most likely outcome was probably bench scorer.

I’m really not sure why you think players don’t improve from rookies throughout their career and it’s just opportunity that makes them. Like thinking jp didn’t improve at all.