2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2

[RoteSchroder]

Am I crazy to think Tre Johnson is better than Dylan Harper?

https://youtu.be/N1qUu1dpWFY?si=kem_weLZQftA4o4g

I would take Harper over Tre but i might take Tre over Ace and the rest of the class....Imo id go Flagg/Harper/Tre/Bailey as my top 4 Jak/Edgecomb would be my 5/6

Tre is a pure shooter. Problem is he’s a bit one dimensional, doesn’t have any other stand out attributes. I’m probably only considering him at 6+ or if we miraculously get another pick.

[Clutch0z24]

Am I crazy to think Tre Johnson is better than Dylan Harper?

https://youtu.be/N1qUu1dpWFY?si=kem_weLZQftA4o4g

I would take Harper over Tre but i might take Tre over Ace and the rest of the class....Imo id go Flagg/Harper/Tre/Bailey as my top 4 Jak/Edgecomb would be my 5/6

Tre is a pure shooter. Problem is he’s a bit one dimensional, doesn’t have any other stand out attributes. I’m probably only considering him at 6+ or if we miraculously get another pick.

Hes a scorer....He can shoot the 3, Shoot the Midrange, iso when need be....At his position that is what you need from him....He has a good handle as well.....Also you can't really judge a player being one dimensional so early in their careers they can develop other skills as they develop....

Id take a pure scorer over a player who is not as developed as a scorer but can pass good or just defend good but is really raw offensively because our team badly badly needs a player with a scorers mindset and a scorers ability.....We need a go to bucket getter...

[Jstock12]

I would take Harper over Tre but i might take Tre over Ace and the rest of the class....Imo id go Flagg/Harper/Tre/Bailey as my top 4 Jak/Edgecomb would be my 5/6

Tre is a pure shooter. Problem is he’s a bit one dimensional, doesn’t have any other stand out attributes. I’m probably only considering him at 6+ or if we miraculously get another pick.

Hes a scorer....He can shoot the 3, Shoot the Midrange, iso when need be....At his position that is what you need from him....He has a good handle as well.....Also you can't really judge a player being one dimensional so early in their careers they can develop other skills as they develop....

Id take a pure scorer over a player who is not as developed as a scorer but can pass good or just defend good but is really raw offensively because our team badly badly needs a player with a scorers mindset and a scorers ability.....We need a go to bucket getter...

One thing I'll say - Tre is a legit 6'6... He might even be closer to 6'7.

[Brinbe]

Ridiculously good performance against the top ranked Vols. Hard to ignore Tre Johnson's bonafides as a top six pick.

Watch on YouTube

I'd still probably go with Edgecombe slightly ahead because of the two-way potential/upside but there's at least some good options out there in case we do fallback in the lottery. At worst there's Maluach and that's not so bad.

I think has Fears has fallen out of that top convo as he's had a rough stretch here in conference play and had a bad one against Georgia. Same with Demin who struggled again vs TCU.

[Indeed]

I would take Harper over Tre but i might take Tre over Ace and the rest of the class....Imo id go Flagg/Harper/Tre/Bailey as my top 4 Jak/Edgecomb would be my 5/6

Tre is a pure shooter. Problem is he’s a bit one dimensional, doesn’t have any other stand out attributes. I’m probably only considering him at 6+ or if we miraculously get another pick.

Hes a scorer....He can shoot the 3, Shoot the Midrange, iso when need be....At his position that is what you need from him....He has a good handle as well.....Also you can't really judge a player being one dimensional so early in their careers they can develop other skills as they develop....

Id take a pure scorer over a player who is not as developed as a scorer but can pass good or just defend good but is really raw offensively because our team badly badly needs a player with a scorers mindset and a scorers ability.....We need a go to bucket getter...

No, we need more than a scorer, we need rim pressure to rotate the defense, then having capable of finishing or passing for an easy shot.

Players who can only shoot to create may not put us to a higher ceiling, and we have one in Quickley.

[Indeed]

Can't believe we gave up our 2nd rounder this year in the Poeltl deal. Hopefully we can get something, either a late first or early second, in a trade.

Probably wouldn't have had to if we didn't need to dump Birch's contract which had an extra year on it. Unfortunately that was self inflicted with the deal he gave him but Birch was still mostly serviceable when he was actually healthy.

I explained before that Khem Birch contract was the butterfly flap that caused many bad moves like the Thad trade and this loss of 2nd rounder

Birch is fine for a backup C role, and he is the best C we find in the FA.
However, once he is starting and go against much bigger C, that became an issue. Anyone undersize to guard opposing C, we saw most of them being out of the league sooner due to back injury, even Anunoby got back problem because we asked him to switch to C occasionally.

At the end, regardless of contract or not finding the right talent, it was our FO.

[CoinTossRoss31]

I'd trade assets to secure Egor Demin and Collin Murray-Boyles. Best offensive and defensive players in the draft.

Egor the guy who hasn't had a good game against a single decent team yet? I just don't see him going in the lottery if his play continues

[Spates]

I'd trade assets to secure Egor Demin and Collin Murray-Boyles. Best offensive and defensive players in the draft.

I’m a fan of Egor, but in what world is he the best offensive player in the draft?

His finishing is holding him back. Everything else is immaculate, excluding defense.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I'd trade assets to secure Egor Demin and Collin Murray-Boyles. Best offensive and defensive players in the draft.

I’m a fan of Egor, but in what world is he the best offensive player in the draft?

His finishing is holding him back. Everything else is immaculate, excluding defense.

He can’t finish against college kids. What makes you think he’ll finish against NBA level athletes?

[RoteSchroder]

I would take Harper over Tre but i might take Tre over Ace and the rest of the class....Imo id go Flagg/Harper/Tre/Bailey as my top 4 Jak/Edgecomb would be my 5/6

Tre is a pure shooter. Problem is he’s a bit one dimensional, doesn’t have any other stand out attributes. I’m probably only considering him at 6+ or if we miraculously get another pick.

Hes a scorer....He can shoot the 3, Shoot the Midrange, iso when need be....At his position that is what you need from him....He has a good handle as well.....Also you can't really judge a player being one dimensional so early in their careers they can develop other skills as they develop....

Id take a pure scorer over a player who is not as developed as a scorer but can pass good or just defend good but is really raw offensively because our team badly badly needs a player with a scorers mindset and a scorers ability.....We need a go to bucket getter...

Why would Tre go above Kasparas though. Kasparas is the same height, much more advanced at several areas of the game and can actually get to the basket.

[TorontoBarneys]

Demin is a Dick-tier prospect. No thanks. We can do better.

[Raptorfan2012]

Don’t know if this was posted before, but found a training footage with Scottie and Tre a few years back. Maybe future teammates?

https://youtu.be/ScZPewWU8K0?si=P_d7_om6MoDQum-U

[Spates]

I’m a fan of Egor, but in what world is he the best offensive player in the draft?

His finishing is holding him back. Everything else is immaculate, excluding defense.

He can’t finish against college kids. What makes you think he’ll finish against NBA level athletes?

It's a gamble. I think he displays the best creation talent by a significant margin. With strength & conditioning, improvement in balance, etc. weaknesses will improve. I think he's worth the shot.

All draftees need to make significant improvements to be impact players. It's incredibly impressive that Demin can pick apart defenses without high-level finishing ability. He's dynamic. Getting buckets at lower levels is hardly an indication of continued ability to do so at higher levels. Give Demin more space and higher quality teammates, and they'll thrive

[Spates]

I'm surprised by the thirst for Tre Johnson. He doesn't look remarkably different from Mathurin, Shaedon Sharpe, or Whitmore.

[PushDaRock]

I'm surprised by the thirst for Tre Johnson. He doesn't look remarkably different from Mathurin, Shaedon Sharpe, or Whitmore.

These player types are seen as exciting when they are earlier in their development, people only start souring on them once their flaws become glaringly obvious and their strengths aren't enough to overcome them.

[Merit]

Quickley
Walter
Flagg
Barnes
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[RoteSchroder]

His finishing is holding him back. Everything else is immaculate, excluding defense.

He can’t finish against college kids. What makes you think he’ll finish against NBA level athletes?

It's a gamble. I think he displays the best creation talent by a significant margin. With strength & conditioning, improvement in balance, etc. weaknesses will improve. I think he's worth the shot.

All draftees need to make significant improvements to be impact players. It's incredibly impressive that Demin can pick apart defenses without high-level finishing ability. He's dynamic. Getting buckets at lower levels is hardly an indication of continued ability to do so at higher levels. Give Demin more space and higher quality teammates, and they'll thrive

There’s minimal value in passing ability if 1) you can’t score and 2) if your passing ability isn’t any better than what your average starting PG can run.

With “higher quality teammates” he likely wouldn’t be asked upon to run the offense.

His creation talent is solid, but very basic, I’d rate his passing below Ben Simmons.

[ATLTimekeeper]

I'm surprised by the thirst for Tre Johnson. He doesn't look remarkably different from Mathurin, Shaedon Sharpe, or Whitmore.

I don't disagree, although I think that Sharpe and Mathurin are actually pretty good picks. Whitmore is definitely talented.

I read somewhere that Tre has a +6 wingspan, which I don't think is the case for the other players here. I'm pretty sure Whitmore is gator-armed. Also I think Tre operates in the midrange really well. He can also pass. He just doesn't as much as he should. To me he's a higher bballIQ version of this type of pick.

But not getting to the line and garbage rebounding are definitely worrisome signs. I don't think I would take him in the top 5, but definitely would be comfortable in the 5-10 range.

[Reeko]

I'm surprised by the thirst for Tre Johnson. He doesn't look remarkably different from Mathurin, Shaedon Sharpe, or Whitmore.

He’s a totally different archetype altogether. Not sure why you’re comparing him to those guys.

[Jstock12]

Demin is a Dick-tier prospect. No thanks. We can do better.

Demin is so tough to judge, because his vision is truly elite and even at the NBA level he'd probably have a top10 vision. But at the same time, I think Gradey has a better all-around game. Demin will have harder time sticking around the league if he is indeed a below 30% 3pt shooter now.