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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#2001 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:14 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
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KnixinSix wrote:Knick Richards is gonna be the guy.



Precious for Richards?


https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/nba-rumors-knicks-trade-hornets-nick-richards/amp/

From Google on Josh

Josh Green is considered a very good defender in the NBA, known for his high energy, quick hands, and ability to disrupt opposing players with steals and active play on the defensive end; many analysts highlight his defensive prowess as one of his strongest attributes.
Key points about Josh Green's defense:
High steal rate:
He consistently ranks high in steals per possession due to his anticipation and quick hands.
Versatility:
Green can guard multiple positions thanks to his athleticism and good wingspan.
Hustle and intensity:
He is known for his relentless effort on defense, creating turnovers and disrupting offensive flows.

Mitch, Dadiet and 3- 2s for Nick and Josh


Not gonna lie, if they made that trade I wouldn't be mad if Richards can actually protect the rim/rebound and Thibs plays them both.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond 

Post#2002 » by KnixinSix » Sat Jan 11, 2025 7:20 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Precious for Richards?


https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/nba-rumors-knicks-trade-hornets-nick-richards/amp/

From Google on Josh

Josh Green is considered a very good defender in the NBA, known for his high energy, quick hands, and ability to disrupt opposing players with steals and active play on the defensive end; many analysts highlight his defensive prowess as one of his strongest attributes.
Key points about Josh Green's defense:
High steal rate:
He consistently ranks high in steals per possession due to his anticipation and quick hands.
Versatility:
Green can guard multiple positions thanks to his athleticism and good wingspan.
Hustle and intensity:
He is known for his relentless effort on defense, creating turnovers and disrupting offensive flows.

Mitch, Dadiet and 3- 2s for Nick and Josh


Not gonna lie, if they made that trade I wouldn't be mad if Richards can actually protect the rim/rebound and Thibs plays them both.


Josh is a Thibs type player. That would both get decent minutes taking load off starters.
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Post#2003 » by spree2kawhi » Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:51 pm

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Precious for Richards?


https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/nba-rumors-knicks-trade-hornets-nick-richards/amp/

From Google on Josh

Josh Green is considered a very good defender in the NBA, known for his high energy, quick hands, and ability to disrupt opposing players with steals and active play on the defensive end; many analysts highlight his defensive prowess as one of his strongest attributes.
Key points about Josh Green's defense:
High steal rate:
He consistently ranks high in steals per possession due to his anticipation and quick hands.
Versatility:
Green can guard multiple positions thanks to his athleticism and good wingspan.
Hustle and intensity:
He is known for his relentless effort on defense, creating turnovers and disrupting offensive flows.

Mitch, Dadiet and 3- 2s for Nick and Josh


Not gonna lie, if they made that trade I wouldn't be mad if Richards can actually protect the rim/rebound and Thibs plays them both.

Yup, sounds good. Not as good as Kessler and Sexton, but deep inside I know that’s never gonna happen anyway.
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Post#2004 » by nykballa2k4 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:04 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
https://empiresportsmedia.com/new-york-knicks/nba-rumors-knicks-trade-hornets-nick-richards/amp/

From Google on Josh

Josh Green is considered a very good defender in the NBA, known for his high energy, quick hands, and ability to disrupt opposing players with steals and active play on the defensive end; many analysts highlight his defensive prowess as one of his strongest attributes.
Key points about Josh Green's defense:
High steal rate:
He consistently ranks high in steals per possession due to his anticipation and quick hands.
Versatility:
Green can guard multiple positions thanks to his athleticism and good wingspan.
Hustle and intensity:
He is known for his relentless effort on defense, creating turnovers and disrupting offensive flows.

Mitch, Dadiet and 3- 2s for Nick and Josh


Not gonna lie, if they made that trade I wouldn't be mad if Richards can actually protect the rim/rebound and Thibs plays them both.

Yup, sounds good. Not as good as Kessler and Sexton, but deep inside I know that’s never gonna happen anyway.


That would be terrible. We need two real shot blocking centers. If we trade Mitch, we need two Mitch's coming back.
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Post#2005 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:09 pm

nykballa2k4 wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
Not gonna lie, if they made that trade I wouldn't be mad if Richards can actually protect the rim/rebound and Thibs plays them both.

Yup, sounds good. Not as good as Kessler and Sexton, but deep inside I know that’s never gonna happen anyway.


That would be terrible. We need two real shot blocking centers. If we trade Mitch, we need two Mitch's coming back.


So you're saying Richards sucks?
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Post#2006 » by nykballa2k4 » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:21 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:Yup, sounds good. Not as good as Kessler and Sexton, but deep inside I know that’s never gonna happen anyway.


That would be terrible. We need two real shot blocking centers. If we trade Mitch, we need two Mitch's coming back.


So you're saying Richards sucks?


I'm saying Trading Mitch for a perhaps healthier, but inferior center is a step back for us.
He's played in max 65 games himself, so he also has an injury history AND he has never played minutes like Thibs plays guys.

So if we cashed in Mitch to get a worse Mitch and added another 6'5" guy to the rotation... i would probably have to move on to baseball season.
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Post#2007 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Jan 12, 2025 12:07 am

nykballa2k4 wrote:
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nykballa2k4 wrote:
That would be terrible. We need two real shot blocking centers. If we trade Mitch, we need two Mitch's coming back.


So you're saying Richards sucks?


I'm saying Trading Mitch for a perhaps healthier, but inferior center is a step back for us.
He's played in max 65 games himself, so he also has an injury history AND he has never played minutes like Thibs plays guys.

So if we cashed in Mitch to get a worse Mitch and added another 6'5" guy to the rotation... i would probably have to move on to baseball season.


So he sucks. I don't want to trade Mitch at all. That's why I'm asking if Richards is any good. Green is 24 and plays defense so I figured he might have some upside. 6'5? Not really what we need. I will just wait for Leon to do his thing. 26 days to the deadline.
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Post#2008 » by KnixinSix » Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:27 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
So you're saying Richards sucks?


I'm saying Trading Mitch for a perhaps healthier, but inferior center is a step back for us.
He's played in max 65 games himself, so he also has an injury history AND he has never played minutes like Thibs plays guys.

So if we cashed in Mitch to get a worse Mitch and added another 6'5" guy to the rotation... i would probably have to move on to baseball season.


So he sucks. I don't want to trade Mitch at all. That's why I'm asking if Richards is any good. Green is 24 and plays defense so I figured he might have some upside. 6'5? Not really what we need. I will just wait for Leon to do his thing. 26 days to the deadline.


I prefer not to trade Mitch either but if you do that trade and then Kolek and a FRP for Kessler we would have 2 Centers that can rim protect much better than KAT.
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Post#2009 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:45 am

KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:
I'm saying Trading Mitch for a perhaps healthier, but inferior center is a step back for us.
He's played in max 65 games himself, so he also has an injury history AND he has never played minutes like Thibs plays guys.

So if we cashed in Mitch to get a worse Mitch and added another 6'5" guy to the rotation... i would probably have to move on to baseball season.


So he sucks. I don't want to trade Mitch at all. That's why I'm asking if Richards is any good. Green is 24 and plays defense so I figured he might have some upside. 6'5? Not really what we need. I will just wait for Leon to do his thing. 26 days to the deadline.


I prefer not to trade Mitch either but if you do that trade and then Kolek and a FRP for Kessler we would have 2 Centers that can rim protect much better than KAT.


Ainge. :lol: I give up on the Kessler talk. I am kinda giving up on all the trade talk. I trust Leon to do the best he can. In the meantime we have a solid team and I'm gonna pay attention to that and wait for this trade deadline to pass. Whatever happens happens. All the trades/players I looked at and tried to make sense of. :lol:
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Post#2010 » by nykballa2k4 » Sun Jan 12, 2025 1:56 am

Jalen Bluntson wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:
Jalen Bluntson wrote:
So he sucks. I don't want to trade Mitch at all. That's why I'm asking if Richards is any good. Green is 24 and plays defense so I figured he might have some upside. 6'5? Not really what we need. I will just wait for Leon to do his thing. 26 days to the deadline.


I prefer not to trade Mitch either but if you do that trade and then Kolek and a FRP for Kessler we would have 2 Centers that can rim protect much better than KAT.


Ainge. :lol: I give up on the Kessler talk. I am kinda giving up on all the trade talk. I trust Leon to do the best he can. In the meantime we have a solid team and I'm gonna pay attention to that and wait for this trade deadline to pass. Whatever happens happens. All the trades/players I looked at and tried to make sense of. :lol:


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Post#2011 » by 8516knicks » Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:12 am

Do Charlotte's Josh Green (around 40% 3pt shooter and Nick Richards for Mitch make sense? Does Green play good/decent D as a big 2g and is Nick say 75% of Mitch but healthier? Would we have to kick in our Frenchie and some 2nds?
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Post#2013 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:32 am

8516knicks wrote:Do Charlotte's Josh Green (around 40% 3pt shooter and Nick Richards for Mitch make sense? Does Green play good/decent D as a big 2g and is Nick say 75% of Mitch but healthier? Would we have to kick in our Frenchie and some 2nds?

I think the answer is yes. If healthy, Robinson is far and away the biggest difference maker in the deal though - but, you know, he isn’t healthy.
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Post#2014 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:39 am

Okay, an overpay:

Robinson, McBride, Kolek, Dadiet, 2 2nds
for
Kessler, Sexton, fillers like, say, Preston and Jones.

Who says no?
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I would assume that Charlotte would be looking to move either Grant Williams or Josh Green as part of this deal (in both cases their combined salaries are less than Nurkic makes). Charlotte would trim a year of salary dumping one of those guys for Nurkic.
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Post#2016 » by R-DAWG » Sun Jan 12, 2025 2:26 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:
8516knicks wrote:Do Charlotte's Josh Green (around 40% 3pt shooter and Nick Richards for Mitch make sense? Does Green play good/decent D as a big 2g and is Nick say 75% of Mitch but healthier? Would we have to kick in our Frenchie and some 2nds?

I think the answer is yes. If healthy, Robinson is far and away the biggest difference maker in the deal though - but, you know, he isn’t healthy.


You would have to hope that you could get some 2nds from a team willing to role the dice on Mitch.

You would also need to include 2 of Payne, Kolek, Shamet, Sims in the deal to make the cap math work - essentially a 3 for 2 - and would have just enough space under the 2nd apron for a vet min to get the roster to 14.

I think the overall fit is interesting if the coach decides to move Hart to the bench

Brunson/Green/Bridges/Anunoby/Towns
McBride/Shamet/Hart/Precious/Richards
Kolek/Dadiet/Hukporti
One minimum

It’s interesting…
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Post#2017 » by 8516knicks » Sun Jan 12, 2025 4:58 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
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8516knicks wrote:Do Charlotte's Josh Green (around 40% 3pt shooter and Nick Richards for Mitch make sense? Does Green play good/decent D as a big 2g and is Nick say 75% of Mitch but healthier? Would we have to kick in our Frenchie and some 2nds?

I think the answer is yes. If healthy, Robinson is far and away the biggest difference maker in the deal though - but, you know, he isn’t healthy.


You would have to hope that you could get some 2nds from a team willing to role the dice on Mitch.

You would also need to include 2 of Payne, Kolek, Shamet, Sims in the deal to make the cap math work - essentially a 3 for 2 - and would have just enough space under the 2nd apron for a vet min to get the roster to 14.

I think the overall fit is interesting if the coach decides to move Hart to the bench

Brunson/Green/Bridges/Anunoby/Towns
McBride/Shamet/Hart/Precious/Richards
Kolek/Dadiet/Hukporti
One minimum

It’s interesting…


Looks even better to me the way you parsed it out. Seems like a solid starting unit AND a solid bench (except perhaps Shamet, but he'd be the 10th guy and Thibs never plays more than 9)
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Post#2018 » by 8516knicks » Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:01 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:Okay, an overpay:

Robinson, McBride, Kolek, Dadiet, 2 2nds
for
Kessler, Sexton, fillers like, say, Preston and Jones.

Who says no?


At this point, not me. :lol: Though I like Deuce and don't get why he's still in and out with Thibs. Kolek also promising. But how is Kessler on D, that seems the real question. Not just rebounding but doing stuff IHART did, for example.
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Post#2019 » by R-DAWG » Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:15 pm

8516knicks wrote:
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spree2kawhi wrote:I think the answer is yes. If healthy, Robinson is far and away the biggest difference maker in the deal though - but, you know, he isn’t healthy.


You would have to hope that you could get some 2nds from a team willing to role the dice on Mitch.

You would also need to include 2 of Payne, Kolek, Shamet, Sims in the deal to make the cap math work - essentially a 3 for 2 - and would have just enough space under the 2nd apron for a vet min to get the roster to 14.

I think the overall fit is interesting if the coach decides to move Hart to the bench

Brunson/Green/Bridges/Anunoby/Towns
McBride/Shamet/Hart/Precious/Richards
Kolek/Dadiet/Hukporti
One minimum

It’s interesting…


Looks even better to me the way you parsed it out. Seems like a solid starting unit AND a solid bench (except perhaps Shamet, but he'd be the 10th guy and Thibs never plays more than 9)


Come playoff time your only playing 8 guys, meaning Shamet and Precious are likely out of the rotation
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Post#2020 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Jan 12, 2025 5:38 pm

8516knicks wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:Okay, an overpay:

Robinson, McBride, Kolek, Dadiet, 2 2nds
for
Kessler, Sexton, fillers like, say, Preston and Jones.

Who says no?


At this point, not me. :lol: Though I like Deuce and don't get why he's still in and out with Thibs. Kolek also promising. But how is Kessler on D, that seems the real question. Not just rebounding but doing stuff IHART did, for example.


He had a hamstring injury. Otherwise, the Knicks view him as a backup wing, not a PG, and he gets minutes and is in the rotation. As the 6th man.

I wouldn't trade Deuce unless it was some slam dunk trade. Or maybe that fantasy where Kessler and Sexton come back, because although Deuce is a better defender than Sexton, Sexton isn't a slouch and is better offensively.
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