2025 Regular Season Thread Vol. 4

[MartyConlonJr]

Can Jaime play PG, because it would be absolutely wild to have a starting lineup of guys we drafted, and also have a huge team.

C - Ware (7'0)
PF - Bam (6'9)
SF - Jovic (6'10)
SG - Herro (6'5)
PG - Jaquez (6'6)

Seems anti Spo in terms of size, but all 5 guys can pass, above the level you would expect for their position, and if Bam gets out of his funk and the close of last year proves to be closer to his 3 point capability, you have most guys able to knock down the 3, defend and score, and there is a nice mix of inside and outside there.

I do still think the missing piece is a bonafide playmaker, like Fox, though there does need to be enough shooting in this day and age. If Fox can't provide it, the rest of the guys have to. Only last season Fox was making 2.9 of 7.8 threes a game though at a 36.9% clip. Not amazing but solid, and high volume.

[twix2500]

Can Jaime play PG, because it would be absolutely wild to have a starting lineup of guys we drafted, and also have a huge team.

C - Ware (7'0)
PF - Bam (6'9)
SF - Jovic (6'10)
SG - Herro (6'5)
PG - Jaquez (6'6)

Seems anti Spo in terms of size, but all 5 guys can pass, above the level you would expect for their position, and if Bam gets out of his funk and the close of last year proves to be closer to his 3 point capability, you have most guys able to knock down the 3, defend and score, and there is a nice mix of inside and outside there.

I do still think the missing piece is a bonafide playmaker, like Fox, though there does need to be enough shooting in this day and age. If Fox can't provide it, the rest of the guys have to. Only last season Fox was making 2.9 of 7.8 threes a game though at a 36.9% clip. Not amazing but solid, and high volume.

He has been playing point guard. Been playing full time point since being injected into the starting lineup. Probably take a full offseason for all three to learn how to play with each other. As of right now they all trying learn who hey are themselves before they learn each other.

[3ballbomber]

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Loving Tyler's game & growth this season. Rooting big time for him to remain healthy and have enough steam to see it through for the whole season.

This, plus Herro's unshakable swagger, plus resume of clutch daggers ..really make a potential bright future seem plausible.

Half the NBA talking heads have planned trading him away for years, and meanwhile old boy wonder has been planning how he gets out of the shadow of Batman...

The Heat always find ways to impress me post big three, they either cobble together a core that seems they might over achieve if they can make the post season, or go on surprise play off runs, or some how end up in the finals...heck even this season...they give us something that is worth cheering for.

Maybe Jimmy has a legit gripe...idk...but I swear he could learn a thing or two from Herro and Bam. All three of them have some flaws in there game, but I have never heard of Herro skipping games to go to the club when he is yo-yoing between bench and starter or Bam raising a fuss when the ball does not get in his hands in a timely manner.

Credit to Herro for his discipline & approach to the gm. A true gym rat & work horse who nvr allowed the trade rumours to affect him & his game. Tho, earlier, i disliked the IG celebrity & GF stuff he was able to stay focused & keep his mind on basketball w/ all the distractions not only bball players experience but also what the city of Miami brings. Credit to the culture for keeping the kid on the str8 & narrow. Have developed a hell of a player that cld have easily unraveled if played elsewhere.

[insfo]

Thoughts and prayers to the people of LA as they try and deal with the devastating fires, but a little bummed out that it might be close to a week before we see the Heat play again.

[Enso]

My prediction is he ends up in Memphis for a bare bones package. Memphis do the Toronto thing and Miami gets him out. Beyond this season who knows where he plays

Shoulda happened a week ago

If we can get a first, second, Marcus Smart and another player I'd be happy

[carnageta]

Niko Jovic during the last 30 days of basketball (since being re-activated after the 'benching'):

- 14 games played
- 12/4/3
- 45/41/84 shooting splits
- 8 games scoring 10 points or more (including 5 in a row)
- 26 minutes per game

Lets hope he can continue the consistency!

[Wiltside]

Niko Jovic during the last 30 days of basketball (since being re-activated after the 'benching'):

- 14 games played
- 12/4/3
- 45/41/84 shooting splits
- 8 games scoring 10 points or more (including 5 in a row)
- 26 minutes per game

Lets hope he can continue the consistency!

He's been terrific. Love how Spo is utilising him, he looks so comfortable out there.

In January so far (7 games):

13.9ppg
4.7rpg
4.0apg
0.7bpg
0.9spg
1.3tpg
28.0mpg
46.2%fg
34.2% 3fg (1.9 per)
85.7%ft

I'd wager he may be leading the team in +/- over this stretch too, but I don't have the numbers to confirm. Looking like Franz Wagner lite out there atm.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Thoughts and prayers to the people of LA as they try and deal with the devastating fires, but a little bummed out that it might be close to a week before we see the Heat play again.

Both games are apparently still happening

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[Enso]

Thoughts and prayers to the people of LA as they try and deal with the devastating fires, but a little bummed out that it might be close to a week before we see the Heat play again.

Both games are apparently still happening

Where did you see this? I doubt it city seems like it's still in shambles

[SA37]

Can Jaime play PG, because it would be absolutely wild to have a starting lineup of guys we drafted, and also have a huge team.

C - Ware (7'0)
PF - Bam (6'9)
SF - Jovic (6'10)
SG - Herro (6'5)
PG - Jaquez (6'6)

Seems anti Spo in terms of size, but all 5 guys can pass, above the level you would expect for their position, and if Bam gets out of his funk and the close of last year proves to be closer to his 3 point capability, you have most guys able to knock down the 3, defend and score, and there is a nice mix of inside and outside there.

I do still think the missing piece is a bonafide playmaker, like Fox, though there does need to be enough shooting in this day and age. If Fox can't provide it, the rest of the guys have to. Only last season Fox was making 2.9 of 7.8 threes a game though at a 36.9% clip. Not amazing but solid, and high volume.

Miami could certainly try to use Jaquez a la Joe Ingles, but I don't think Jaquez can check point guards and Jovic definitely cannot check SFs. I also don't think Ware is ready for any significant minutes.

I still can't get on board with the whole Jovic thing. Everything he does is just bordering on clumsy. Watching his spasmic convulsions towards the basket is like experiencing visual air turbulence.

I feel like the Herro-as-the-primary-ball-handler experiment should have ended already, especially given the decline in Bam's offensive output.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Thoughts and prayers to the people of LA as they try and deal with the devastating fires, but a little bummed out that it might be close to a week before we see the Heat play again.

Both games are apparently still happening

Where did you see this? I doubt it city seems like it's still in shambles

Twitter, mayor approved them

[Enso]

Both games are apparently still happening

Where did you see this? I doubt it city seems like it's still in shambles

Twitter, mayor approved them

damn quick turn around

[Wiltside]

Can Jaime play PG, because it would be absolutely wild to have a starting lineup of guys we drafted, and also have a huge team.

C - Ware (7'0)
PF - Bam (6'9)
SF - Jovic (6'10)
SG - Herro (6'5)
PG - Jaquez (6'6)

Seems anti Spo in terms of size, but all 5 guys can pass, above the level you would expect for their position, and if Bam gets out of his funk and the close of last year proves to be closer to his 3 point capability, you have most guys able to knock down the 3, defend and score, and there is a nice mix of inside and outside there.

I do still think the missing piece is a bonafide playmaker, like Fox, though there does need to be enough shooting in this day and age. If Fox can't provide it, the rest of the guys have to. Only last season Fox was making 2.9 of 7.8 threes a game though at a 36.9% clip. Not amazing but solid, and high volume.

Miami could certainly try to use Jaquez a la Joe Ingles, but I don't think Jaquez can check point guards and Jovic definitely cannot check SFs. I also don't think Ware is ready for any significant minutes.

I still can't get on board with the whole Jovic thing. Everything he does is just bordering on clumsy. Watching his spasmic convulsions towards the basket is like experiencing visual air turbulence.

I feel like the Herro-as-the-primary-ball-handler experiment should have ended already, especially given the decline in Bam's offensive output.

I think this summary from Couper Moorhead after the Heat’s win over Portland might help you get on the Jovic train:

What impresses about Jovic (21 points on 12 shots) of late is how unspectacular his play has been. Don’t confuse that for anything negative, what it means is that nothing Jovic has done lately feels like just a hot streak, rather it’s more of a natural extension of what he’s doing every time out. Sometimes more threes fall and he sets a new season high with 21, but being a consistent part of a winning group is about more than riding the make or miss of it all and Jovic is showing up every night adding more pluses and reducing his minuses.

What Jovic will eventually be – there is point forward in his game, but also big playmaker, which is a slightly different archetype – is yet to be determined, but for now you see him doing the things that earns the trust of Erik Spoelstra, and thus earns him the consistent minutes that allow him to explore his potential. The more success he has, the more he will be tested and by bigger and better opponents than a Portland team that doesn’t exactly shine on the defensive end. For now, Jovic is making shots which makes it all look a little flashier, but he’s doing the right things outside of the threes, passing and driving with physicality and staying solid on defense, that will eventually define him as a professional player.

https://www.nba.com/heat/news/coups-takeaways-open-threes-gain-the-lead-tough-threes-hold-it-as-herro-jovic-shine-in-portland

[insfo]

Can Jaime play PG, because it would be absolutely wild to have a starting lineup of guys we drafted, and also have a huge team.

C - Ware (7'0)
PF - Bam (6'9)
SF - Jovic (6'10)
SG - Herro (6'5)
PG - Jaquez (6'6)

Seems anti Spo in terms of size, but all 5 guys can pass, above the level you would expect for their position, and if Bam gets out of his funk and the close of last year proves to be closer to his 3 point capability, you have most guys able to knock down the 3, defend and score, and there is a nice mix of inside and outside there.

I do still think the missing piece is a bonafide playmaker, like Fox, though there does need to be enough shooting in this day and age. If Fox can't provide it, the rest of the guys have to. Only last season Fox was making 2.9 of 7.8 threes a game though at a 36.9% clip. Not amazing but solid, and high volume.

Miami could certainly try to use Jaquez a la Joe Ingles, but I don't think Jaquez can check point guards and Jovic definitely cannot check SFs. I also don't think Ware is ready for any significant minutes.

I still can't get on board with the whole Jovic thing. Everything he does is just bordering on clumsy. Watching his spasmic convulsions towards the basket is like experiencing visual air turbulence.

I feel like the Herro-as-the-primary-ball-handler experiment should have ended already, especially given the decline in Bam's offensive output.

I think this summary from Couper Moorhead after the Heat’s win over Portland might help you get on the Jovic train:

What impresses about Jovic (21 points on 12 shots) of late is how unspectacular his play has been. Don’t confuse that for anything negative, what it means is that nothing Jovic has done lately feels like just a hot streak, rather it’s more of a natural extension of what he’s doing every time out. Sometimes more threes fall and he sets a new season high with 21, but being a consistent part of a winning group is about more than riding the make or miss of it all and Jovic is showing up every night adding more pluses and reducing his minuses.

What Jovic will eventually be – there is point forward in his game, but also big playmaker, which is a slightly different archetype – is yet to be determined, but for now you see him doing the things that earns the trust of Erik Spoelstra, and thus earns him the consistent minutes that allow him to explore his potential. The more success he has, the more he will be tested and by bigger and better opponents than a Portland team that doesn’t exactly shine on the defensive end. For now, Jovic is making shots which makes it all look a little flashier, but he’s doing the right things outside of the threes, passing and driving with physicality and staying solid on defense, that will eventually define him as a professional player.

https://www.nba.com/heat/news/coups-takeaways-open-threes-gain-the-lead-tough-threes-hold-it-as-herro-jovic-shine-in-portland

Dang, Coup forgot to feed his article creation bot with all the stats

with the HEAT enjoying xx more steals.

[Rapaz]

Did y’all trade that fool yet?

[Voltron914]

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anotha one

Maybe its just me but this sure sounding more and more like the team is ready to move on from Butler!

Why wouldn't they be? The dude blatantly and publicly quit on them mid-season

lol exactly. said trade me to a contender like he is carrying the team every game

[unowen85]

Did y’all trade that fool yet?

Negotiations are getting hot and heavy in the elevator.

[powerball1373]

Damn I'm guessing they sent that to the league and felt justified with the suspension after talking to them. It's gonna be interesting to see if there's more to it than that, if it's just that then I don't think the 7 days stick maybe a game or 2.

Riley is gonna be pist Hardaway. They want to keep it in house regardless what Jimmy does publicly

what if Riley gave him the green light to leak that? Tim been apart of the heat long enough to not slip up like that. this gives more context to Haslem and Jimmy's argument on the bench during the game too.

This. I would be shocked if Timmy ran his mouth on this without Riley's blessing. The result of it has been a positive for the franchise, as it makes Jimmy look worse.

[dshearn]

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Loving Tyler's game & growth this season. Rooting big time for him to remain healthy and have enough steam to see it through for the whole season.

This, plus Herro's unshakable swagger, plus resume of clutch daggers ..really make a potential bright future seem plausible.

Half the NBA talking heads have planned trading him away for years, and meanwhile old boy wonder has been planning how he gets out of the shadow of Batman...

The Heat always find ways to impress me post big three, they either cobble together a core that seems they might over achieve if they can make the post season, or go on surprise play off runs, or some how end up in the finals...heck even this season...they give us something that is worth cheering for.

Maybe Jimmy has a legit gripe...idk...but I swear he could learn a thing or two from Herro and Bam. All three of them have some flaws in there game, but I have never heard of Herro skipping games to go to the club when he is yo-yoing between bench and starter or Bam raising a fuss when the ball does not get in his hands in a timely manner.

Credit to Herro for his discipline & approach to the gm. A true gym rat & work horse who nvr allowed the trade rumours to affect him & his game. Tho, earlier, i disliked the IG celebrity & GF stuff he was able to stay focused & keep his mind on basketball w/ all the distractions not only bball players experience but also what the city of Miami brings. Credit to the culture for keeping the kid on the str8 & narrow. Have developed a hell of a player that cld have easily unraveled if played elsewhere.

yeah so true...for as large as Herro's dreams are, and his hectic life style...dude has been pretty darn emotionally stable considering his ups and downs.

Didn't Herro say he wants to be in that Luka/SGA category. Something like that.. For a dude with that kinda goal....he has taken the starting/benching/starting career trajectory in stride. We have seen so many pro players in different sports come unglued when they are told -NO-. Meanwhile, Tyler has just kept his mouth shut.

Hell same with Bam.... Random dudes show up like Duncan/Strus...and Bam gets pushed down to the 4th option at times. Hell he has to do ALL the heavy lifting on defense, all the dirty work....never heard a peep out of him. He just keeps on working his tail off.

How the hell Jimmy can end up on a team full of young dudes, and undrafted dudes working their tails off day in and day out, and then go act like he did...it is beyond me...

I get Miami is Miami and the city has a personality all its own, but the basketball team is as blue collar as it gets. How Jimmy could be on a team that grinds the way it does year after year and then go all diva for not getting his iso game called for a handful of minutes is bonkers.

I wonder if that whole "you want to fight...me?" junk has anything to do with all this....

I love Jimmy, but the more I think about all this, the more negative I get towards Jimmy