Bulls vs Kings 2:30pm CT Jan. 12 2025

[Indomitable]

Well the Kings beat the point spread in the last 30s. So good job by the refs. They won!

They almost blew it by not overturning that last foul on Keon Ellis 4 minutes ago.

It would be nice to have a consistent whistle. If they called every game like that. I would be fine.

I don't know how people gamble on a sport with such inconsistent officiating.

And it isn't new. Joey Crawford hating Tim Duncan, Steve Javie and Iverson, CP3 and Tony Brothers.

I expected the swallowing but let them keep killing the league and the league is dying.

[Indomitable]

I am shocked Coby did not play. Even Pat looked interested.

[ChettheJet]

Sorry but that is why I want to trade Zach. How many times since he's been here has he decided he's gonna win the game and he's gonna show the other guy that he's better at carrying the team. Today it was Demar, and just like it's been too many times, the Bulls lose a winnable game.

Yeah Patrick could have made a few shots but the last 3 minutes that game was still there and it turned into glory time. That 5 second call, you, just like the Kings, knew the play was for Zach. he couldn't break free to the center circle and nobody else came to the ball to get it in and then look for Zach

[LikeMike23]

The FBI needs to investigate the NBA. They're rigging games for sportsbooks.

It's been that way since they legalized it and it's incredibly obvious. There needs to be outside oversight over the league and it's officials if they are going to continue to allow gambling on these games. It's created a unwatchable product.

There need to be rules and regulations about sportsbooks buying advertisements and sponsorships from professional sports leagues. It's in these leagues' interest to do things in the sportsbook's favor because the more money sportsbooks win, the more money they can spend on ads. It's like the sportsbooks are buying the outcome of games.

[kodo]

Well without Zach the team just loses by 20.
It's a better result for pro tank, which is me included, but I know that's not our call and the FO is trying to win. As far as we can tell.

[RagingBull316]

Sorry but that is why I want to trade Zach. How many times since he's been here has he decided he's gonna win the game and he's gonna show the other guy that he's better at carrying the team. Today it was Demar, and just like it's been too many times, the Bulls lose a winnable game.

Yeah Patrick could have made a few shots but the last 3 minutes that game was still there and it turned into glory time. That 5 second call, you, just like the Kings, knew the play was for Zach. he couldn't break free to the center circle and nobody else came to the ball to get it in and then look for Zach

He missed a few layups at the end being aggressive trying to finish through contact. Exactly what you would want anyone to do. He was getting fouled a bunch at the end with no calls. It wasn't like he was just jacking up shots.

You're just trying to make it fit whatever narrative you have against him for whatever reason. Zach didn't lose this game, as a matter of fact I would have liked to see him get a chance to take a shot to tie the game but Billy called that meaningless timeout.

[2weekswithpay]

[MrSparkle]

Not always called so tightly, but that was 5 seconds.

Billy is the just the worst in-game NBA coach we've ever seen. Atleast VDN didn't bother trying to open his black book.

First off, he didn't have to bother calling a TO. You generally save the last one for a buzzer beater in a close game. Especially knowing you're playing against f'ing Demar DeRozan, who is going to get another clutch basket in (if not Fox, Monk or Sabonis).

Second - there are 14 seconds left... You are not bound to making the pass to your #1 option. WTF , was he thinking running 3 players to the opposite side would really create a decoy for Zach? Lol. I imagine Christie whispered to Monk "get ready to leave Giddey."

Third - this is the same Bull**** we've seen for 4y. I have no idea how to track this, but I consciously recall more expired clocks on Billy inbound plays than I have on any other Bulls coach in my lifetime, and as it's been discussed, we've had some remarkably bad coaches.

For f***'s sake. What is he drawing up? Atleast make the last FGA mildly interesting.

[Indomitable]

Not always called so tightly, but that was 5 seconds.

Billy is the just the worst in-game NBA coach we've ever seen. Atleast VDN didn't bother trying to open his black book.

First off, he didn't have to bother calling a TO. You generally save the last one for a buzzer beater in a close game. Especially knowing you're playing against f'ing Demar DeRozan, who is going to get another clutch basket in (if not Fox, Monk or Sabonis).

Second - there are 14 seconds left... You are not bound to making the pass to your #1 option. WTF , was he thinking running 3 players to the opposite side would really create a decoy for Zach? Lol. I imagine Christie whispered to Monk "get ready to leave Giddey."

Third - this is the same Bull**** we've seen for 4y. I have no idea how to track this, but I consciously recall more expired clocks on Billy inbound plays than I have on any other Bulls coach in my lifetime, and as it's been discussed, we've had some remarkably bad coaches.

For f***'s sake. What is he drawing up? Atleast make the last FGA mildly interesting.

Billy is a terrible in game coach. His inbound play suck.

Allegedly the Giddey situation with the inbound pass is his strong suit. At least in OKC.

[Bulliever2020]

Was definitely a legit 5 second call. Play took way too long to develop. That is definitely on Billy.

Great game but Zach chokes again. You can't beg for those 50/50 calls in the last 2 minutes of a game.

I don't agree with blaming this one on the refs at all.

[Indomitable]

Not always called so tightly, but that was 5 seconds.

Billy is the just the worst in-game NBA coach we've ever seen. Atleast VDN didn't bother trying to open his black book.

First off, he didn't have to bother calling a TO. You generally save the last one for a buzzer beater in a close game. Especially knowing you're playing against f'ing Demar DeRozan, who is going to get another clutch basket in (if not Fox, Monk or Sabonis).

Second - there are 14 seconds left... You are not bound to making the pass to your #1 option. WTF , was he thinking running 3 players to the opposite side would really create a decoy for Zach? Lol. I imagine Christie whispered to Monk "get ready to leave Giddey."

Third - this is the same Bull**** we've seen for 4y. I have no idea how to track this, but I consciously recall more expired clocks on Billy inbound plays than I have on any other Bulls coach in my lifetime, and as it's been discussed, we've had some remarkably bad coaches.

For f***'s sake. What is he drawing up? Atleast make the last FGA mildly interesting.

That was terrible.

Zach had the ball. Spread the floor and let him take DeMar one on one. Instead call a time out and let them double Zach with their two best defenders.

Billy is makes some of the dumbest decisions. I would want DeMar on Zach in that situation.

Billy is should not be the coach. What has he done to deserve to be here?

[kodo]

Yeah that 5 seconds was on Billy, not the refs or Giddey.

There was only 1 possible receiver, Lavine. And he was double teamed, because even a moron would know the ball is going to Lavine since no other Bull has been able to create for himself all game.

Vucevic is not even looking at the ball.
Lonzo is on the opposite side.
Patrick is on the opposite side, and why is he even in the game he's hasn't been able to hit a shot since January started.



The other big TO called in the 4th ended up with just THT going full iso for the entire possession and taking and missing a contested layup.

We would have been better off if no TOs were called by our coach.

[Hangtime84]

Was definitely a legit 5 second call. Play took way too long to develop. That is definitely on Billy.

Great game but Zach chokes again. You can't beg for those 50/50 calls in the last 2 minutes of a game.

I don't agree with blaming this one on the refs at all.

A few shots were just awful, take the clean open shot not the contested in the paint shot.

None of our players are physical freaks where we can jusy overpower anyone for an easy shot.

[Indomitable]

Was definitely a legit 5 second call. Play took way too long to develop. That is definitely on Billy.

Great game but Zach chokes again. You can't beg for those 50/50 calls in the last 2 minutes of a game.

I don't agree with blaming this one on the refs at all.

A few shots were just awful, take the clean open shot not the contested in the paint shot.

None of our players are physical freaks where we can jusy overpower anyone for an easy shot.

You had DeMar on Zach at the top of the key. Scream spread floor.

DeMar is the guy I want guarding your potential shooter. He is slower and less athletic.

[Chi town]

Sorry but that is why I want to trade Zach. How many times since he's been here has he decided he's gonna win the game and he's gonna show the other guy that he's better at carrying the team. Today it was Demar, and just like it's been too many times, the Bulls lose a winnable game.

Yeah Patrick could have made a few shots but the last 3 minutes that game was still there and it turned into glory time. That 5 second call, you, just like the Kings, knew the play was for Zach. he couldn't break free to the center circle and nobody else came to the ball to get it in and then look for Zach

Hero on ball Zach is No Bueno.

Off Ball Aggressive Zach is BEST. He’s a player you can win with.

[Guru]

Love jumping on the thread to see what player or coach needs go after a loss.

[Stratmaster]

As long as Patrick Williams is getting starting minutes and Billy Donovan is the head coach the Bulls will never make any progress.

That's 2 blatant games Billy has mis-coached into losses plus one where he even admitted the coaching staff hadn't gotten the team ready properly. A couple others that could be debated.

NBA coaches can't win games for you. But they sure can lose them.

[Chi town]

As long as Patrick Williams is getting starting minutes and Billy Donovan is the head coach the Bulls will never make any progress.

That's 2 blatant games Billy has mis-coached into losses plus one where he even admitted the coaching staff hadn't gotten the team ready properly. A couple others that could be debated.

NBA coaches can't win games for you. But they sure can lose them.

Pat is such a L.

Full on L.

As a pick. As a contract.

I am officially done rooting for him. Sunk Cost. Trade him if you want to win. Keep him if you want to tank.

[Hangtime84]

Was definitely a legit 5 second call. Play took way too long to develop. That is definitely on Billy.

Great game but Zach chokes again. You can't beg for those 50/50 calls in the last 2 minutes of a game.

I don't agree with blaming this one on the refs at all.

A few shots were just awful, take the clean open shot not the contested in the paint shot.

None of our players are physical freaks where we can jusy overpower anyone for an easy shot.

You had DeMar on Zach at the top of the key. Scream spread floor.

DeMar is the guy I want guarding your potential shooter. He is slower and less athletic.

Doesn't work if the guy drives and everyone and mom knows he ain't passing the ball. I would be shocked if Zach actually made a game winning assist. That man grew up idolizing selfish version of Kobe.

[Hangtime84]

As long as Patrick Williams is getting starting minutes and Billy Donovan is the head coach the Bulls will never make any progress.

That's 2 blatant games Billy has mis-coached into losses plus one where he even admitted the coaching staff hadn't gotten the team ready properly. A couple others that could be debated.

NBA coaches can't win games for you. But they sure can lose them.

As much as we big on not giving entilment minutes to Matas. I feel that should have the same for Patrick.