UTA - DET - PHX

[babyjax13]

Stealing and adapting Skyhook's Sexton to Detroit idea.

UTA trades: Sexton, Eubanks
in: Okogie, Moore, 2025 TOR 2nd, 2026 DEN 2nd, 2029 MIL 2nd, 2031 DEN 2nd
I'm sure Utah will look for a first before doing this, but if they can't find one here they cut salary, return a 2/3 (Okogie), a high 2025 2nd, and some future 2nds (2029 & 2031) with the potential to be high 2nds. This also gives them some assets with a longer time horizon to trade, which could have some benefits down the road when Utah is good and it is time to do the reverse of this (trade several 2nds for a rotation player).

DET trades: Sasser, Moore, 2025 TOR 2nd, 2029 MIL 2nd
in: Sexton
Detroit gets a player who can average 20/4/5 on great efficiency. He has great work ethic, is very fun, and a fantastic offensive player who has acquired more point guard skills since coming to Utah. The downside is obviously the defense, and it is unlikely to improve much since a lot of it comes down to size.

PHX trades: Okogie, 2026 DEN 2nd, 2031 DEN 2nd
in: Eubanks, Sasser
Phoenix splits Okogie up into a cost-controlled guard who gives them a decent backup to Tyus Jones + a backup F/C who is a reasonable minutes sponge and can take a bigger place in their rotation if and when they trade Nurkic. It's not sexy, but I think Sasser will be a more important part of their rotation than Okogie is.

[GreekAlex]

As much as I like Sasser as a Pistons fan, I don’t think you can turn this down.

Sexton played for Bickerstaff for like 4 seasons so he’d know better than anyone how he’d integrate him into the rotation.

[jayjaysee]

I like this for all three teams. Agree Utah should be able to find a first for Sexton, but this adds up to a first IMO.

Feels too good for Phoenix IMO, minor but maybe they add their 2031 2nd as well..

[SkyHook]

The Jazz would probably wait to see if an offer of a lottery protected FRP materializes, but this would be a fine backup plan. Nicely done.

[tmorgan]

That TOR 2nd is looking pretty nice.

But yeah, I do this.

[babyjax13]

I like this for all three teams. Agree Utah should be able to find a first for Sexton, but this adds up to a first IMO.

Feels too good for Phoenix IMO, minor but maybe they add their 2031 2nd as well..

My thought is that this could make something like getting LAL to unprotect the 2027 pick, or trading for our own protected pick back a bit more palatable since we could deal the 2025 CLE 1st while still having that Toronto pick a few slots back.

[tmorgan]

Sasser actually makes some sense in Phoenix, too. He can defend the point but can’t really play it, but that’s much less of an issue with guys like Booker and Durant around. With Ivey down, we’re currently trying to use him as the PG backup to Cade, and it’s just not working very well.

[jayjaysee]

I like this for all three teams. Agree Utah should be able to find a first for Sexton, but this adds up to a first IMO.

Feels too good for Phoenix IMO, minor but maybe they add their 2031 2nd as well..

My thought is that this could make something like getting LAL to unprotect the 2027 pick, or trading for our own protected pick back a bit more palatable since we could deal the 2025 CLE 1st while still having that Toronto pick a few slots back.

Yeah, I don’t even think Utah keeps 3 picks (the second or the Cleveland first) but it’s a tool and Utah can make moves.

Maybe he’s those ideas, Maybe find a contender that is willing to do a deal like Presti did with Denver..

Maybe 30 and 34 for the Washington pick from NY?.. NYK could use the cheap bodies to try and slide under the second apron one last season.. Utah could take a chance on Washington having the stomach for a third straight tanking seasons..

[Daddy 801]

I think Utah pushes real hard to trade Sexton and Collins together for a first round pick (think LA is the best option). But if that can’t be done getting a haul of second round picks for just Sexton is a decent option.

[zeebneeb]

I am 100% on board, and if need be, Detroit can throw in a couple more seconds to sweeten the pot. Detroits got like 9 of em.

Sexton would be a perfect fit both immediately, and in the future.

[Kalamazoo317]

Yeah, I'd do this for the Pistons for sure

[Daddy 801]

Might be the first trade proposal I’ve seen in a long time the majority of people are saying yes to.

[SkyHook]

Stealing and adapting Skyhook's Sexton to Detroit idea.

UTA trades: Sexton, Eubanks
in: Okogie, Moore, 2025 TOR 2nd, 2026 DEN 2nd, 2029 MIL 2nd, 2031 DEN 2nd
I'm sure Utah will look for a first before doing this, but if they can't find one here they cut salary, return a 2/3 (Okogie), a high 2025 2nd, and some future 2nds (2029 & 2031) with the potential to be high 2nds. This also gives them some assets with a longer time horizon to trade, which could have some benefits down the road when Utah is good and it is time to do the reverse of this (trade several 2nds for a rotation player).

DET trades: Sasser, Moore, 2025 TOR 2nd, 2029 MIL 2nd
in: Sexton
Detroit gets a player who can average 20/4/5 on great efficiency. He has great work ethic, is very fun, and a fantastic offensive player who has acquired more point guard skills since coming to Utah. The downside is obviously the defense, and it is unlikely to improve much since a lot of it comes down to size.

PHX trades: Okogie, 2026 DEN 2nd, 2031 DEN 2nd
in: Eubanks, Sasser
Phoenix splits Okogie up into a cost-controlled guard who gives them a decent backup to Tyus Jones + a backup F/C who is a reasonable minutes sponge and can take a bigger place in their rotation if and when they trade Nurkic. It's not sexy, but I think Sasser will be a more important part of their rotation than Okogie is.

You got a shout out from Andy Larsen at the Trib. He's either a lurker or he's one of us.

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2025/01/12/triple-team-jazz-rookie-isaiah/

[bkohler]

Stealing and adapting Skyhook's Sexton to Detroit idea.

UTA trades: Sexton, Eubanks
in: Okogie, Moore, 2025 TOR 2nd, 2026 DEN 2nd, 2029 MIL 2nd, 2031 DEN 2nd
I'm sure Utah will look for a first before doing this, but if they can't find one here they cut salary, return a 2/3 (Okogie), a high 2025 2nd, and some future 2nds (2029 & 2031) with the potential to be high 2nds. This also gives them some assets with a longer time horizon to trade, which could have some benefits down the road when Utah is good and it is time to do the reverse of this (trade several 2nds for a rotation player).

DET trades: Sasser, Moore, 2025 TOR 2nd, 2029 MIL 2nd
in: Sexton
Detroit gets a player who can average 20/4/5 on great efficiency. He has great work ethic, is very fun, and a fantastic offensive player who has acquired more point guard skills since coming to Utah. The downside is obviously the defense, and it is unlikely to improve much since a lot of it comes down to size.

PHX trades: Okogie, 2026 DEN 2nd, 2031 DEN 2nd
in: Eubanks, Sasser
Phoenix splits Okogie up into a cost-controlled guard who gives them a decent backup to Tyus Jones + a backup F/C who is a reasonable minutes sponge and can take a bigger place in their rotation if and when they trade Nurkic. It's not sexy, but I think Sasser will be a more important part of their rotation than Okogie is.

You got a shout out from Andy Larsen at the Trib. He's either a lurker or he's one of us.

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2025/01/12/triple-team-jazz-rookie-isaiah/

Came here to say the same thing… which one of you sickos is it?

[SkyHook]

Stealing and adapting Skyhook's Sexton to Detroit idea.

UTA trades: Sexton, Eubanks
in: Okogie, Moore, 2025 TOR 2nd, 2026 DEN 2nd, 2029 MIL 2nd, 2031 DEN 2nd
I'm sure Utah will look for a first before doing this, but if they can't find one here they cut salary, return a 2/3 (Okogie), a high 2025 2nd, and some future 2nds (2029 & 2031) with the potential to be high 2nds. This also gives them some assets with a longer time horizon to trade, which could have some benefits down the road when Utah is good and it is time to do the reverse of this (trade several 2nds for a rotation player).

DET trades: Sasser, Moore, 2025 TOR 2nd, 2029 MIL 2nd
in: Sexton
Detroit gets a player who can average 20/4/5 on great efficiency. He has great work ethic, is very fun, and a fantastic offensive player who has acquired more point guard skills since coming to Utah. The downside is obviously the defense, and it is unlikely to improve much since a lot of it comes down to size.

PHX trades: Okogie, 2026 DEN 2nd, 2031 DEN 2nd
in: Eubanks, Sasser
Phoenix splits Okogie up into a cost-controlled guard who gives them a decent backup to Tyus Jones + a backup F/C who is a reasonable minutes sponge and can take a bigger place in their rotation if and when they trade Nurkic. It's not sexy, but I think Sasser will be a more important part of their rotation than Okogie is.

You got a shout out from Andy Larsen at the Trib. He's either a lurker or he's one of us.

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/jazz/2025/01/12/triple-team-jazz-rookie-isaiah/

Came here to say the same thing… which one of you sickos is it?

[mrhunt]

This thread caused a great disturbance in Phoenix, as if millions of Suns suddenly cried out in terror at the prospect of Eubanks back in purple and orange.

[babyjax13]

Ah, that's very fun! I'm pretty positive he is on here as just his name, he posts now and then!

Also, Danny, if you are reading this, I'm a University Professor who will gladly quit my job to scout college basketball. Please, I'm begging you, hire me.

[oldncreaky]

Great trade, well done, with other DET fans who will take it.

FYI -- Tried it in spotrac, and UTA ends up with a TPE for Sexton's full salary because Sasser and Moore fit into existing UTA TPEs. I don't think TPEs are as valuable now that MLEs can be used as TPEs, but it does add a small touch of value to UTA.

[hcsilla]

I don't wanna be a joy-killer but what kind of upgrades precisely does Sasser offer over Monte Morris or Okogie?

Eubanks: I don't know, all in all his tenure in Phoenix was a slight disappointment, so I'm not sure how he could help the Suns.

It's not that the Suns pay much here, but they are so limited in moveable assets that they need to be very selective what upgrades (which I don't really see here) they spend their remanining assets on.

[babyjax13]

I don't wanna be a joy-killer but what kind of upgrades precisely does Sasser offer over Monte Morris or Okogie?

Eubanks: I don't know, all in all his tenure in Phoenix was a slight disappointment, so I'm not sure how he could help the Suns.

It's not that the Suns pay much here, but they are so limited in moveable assets that they need to be very selective what upgrades (which I don't really see here) they spend their remanining assets on.

Morris' TS% has fallen off a cliff (53% vs. 59% for Sasser) and his defense isn't as good this year + he's undersized (6-2 w/6-4 winspan vs. 6-2 w/6-7 wingspan). But I can easily see Phoenix preferring Okogie. I do think Phoenix was disappointed with Eubanks because of how good he looked statistically w/Portland, but he was never going to average 13/6 on a good team. TBH Phoenix probably doesn't need to be in this if they aren't interested, I'm sure a third team will offer some value for Sasser.