Trades and Transactions Thread - Preseason and Beyond

lloydj · Post #2021 » by **lloydj** » Sun Jan 12, 2025 6:58 pm

Brooklyn Nets give Ben Simmons a buyout and Knicks bring him in after clearing waivers. 8-)

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #2022 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Sun Jan 12, 2025 7:24 pm

lloydj wrote:Brooklyn Nets give Ben Simmons a buyout and Knicks bring him in after clearing waivers.

The New York Knicks are unable to sign Ben Simmons because they are a first-apron team, which prohibits them from signing buyout players who earn more than the mid-level exception

thebuzzardman · Post #2023 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sun Jan 12, 2025 10:35 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
lloydj wrote:Brooklyn Nets give Ben Simmons a buyout and Knicks bring him in after clearing waivers.

The New York Knicks are unable to sign Ben Simmons because they are a first-apron team, which prohibits them from signing buyout players who earn more than the mid-level exception

The new CBA sucks

Besart19 · Post #2024 » by **Besart19** » Sun Jan 12, 2025 11:22 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
lloydj wrote:Brooklyn Nets give Ben Simmons a buyout and Knicks bring him in after clearing waivers.

The New York Knicks are unable to sign Ben Simmons because they are a first-apron team, which prohibits them from signing buyout players who earn more than the mid-level exception

The new CBA sucks

would you deal Bridges and Mitch for Ingram and a filler (Jones, Missi or Theiss)?

thebuzzardman · Post #2025 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:54 am

Besart19 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

The new CBA sucks

would you deal Bridges and Mitch for Ingram and a filler (Jones, Missi or Theiss)?

Not sure. Ingram brings lots of secondary creation but not much defense. Still might be worth it

Besart19 · Post #2026 » by **Besart19** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 12:57 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
Besart19 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:The new CBA sucks

would you deal Bridges and Mitch for Ingram and a filler (Jones, Missi or Theiss)?

Not sure. Ingram brings lots of secondary creation but not much defense. Still might be worth it

he has size... you can play Deuce in the SL to compensate both D and shooting

R-DAWG · Post #2027 » by **R-DAWG** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:49 am

Besart19 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

The new CBA sucks

would you deal Bridges and Mitch for Ingram and a filler (Jones, Missi or Theiss)?

What about the first round picks?

sol537 · Post #2028 » by **sol537** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:52 am

Tre Murphy or Deni are great targets but hard to get unless their agents demand a trade.

I’d give up Kolek, Dadiet, Rokas, WAS 1st, future pick swap, and four 2nd rounders for Tre Murphy.

douggood · Post #2029 » by **douggood** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:14 am

sol537 wrote:Tre Murphy or Deni are great targets but hard to get unless their agents demand a trade.

I’d give up Kolek, Dadiet, Rokas, WAS 1st, future pick swap, and four 2nd rounders for Tre Murphy.

trey is poison pill, borerline impossible to make a trade for him.

lloydj · Post #2030 » by **lloydj** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:02 am

thebuzzardman wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
lloydj wrote:Brooklyn Nets give Ben Simmons a buyout and Knicks bring him in after clearing waivers.

The New York Knicks are unable to sign Ben Simmons because they are a first-apron team, which prohibits them from signing buyout players who earn more than the mid-level exception

The new CBA sucks

Question: The new CBA would not apply to a waved, non-buy out Ben Simmons?

douggood · Post #2031 » by **douggood** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:14 am

lloydj wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

The new CBA sucks

Question: The new CBA would not apply to a waved, non-buy out Ben Simmons?

waived/buyout same thing for this rule. basically anyone who becomes a free agent who earned more than the MLE cannot sign with teams in the apron.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/01/clarifying-the-nbas-new-rule-on-buyout-signings.html

This applies to both buyouts and standard waivers, so regardless of whether or not the player agreed to give up any money as part of his release, he’s ineligible to sign with an apron team if he had been earning more than $12,405,000.

spree2kawhi · Post #2032 » by **spree2kawhi** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 5:34 am

Besart19 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:

The new CBA sucks

would you deal Bridges and Mitch for Ingram and a filler (Jones, Missi or Theiss)?

No. I wouldn’t make any major moves.

Spree2Houston · Post #2033 » by **Spree2Houston** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:02 pm

Looked into Cam Whitmore. He has Brandon Roy knees. Unfortunately, he won’t have a long career. He can be had for Sims. I would still pull the trigger for him.

spree2kawhi · Post #2034 » by **spree2kawhi** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:36 pm

Utah rested Kessler tonight, literally DNP-rest. What are they resting him for?

thebuzzardman · Post #2035 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:04 pm

sol537 wrote:Tre Murphy or Deni are great targets but hard to get unless their agents demand a trade.

I’d give up Kolek, Dadiet, Rokas, WAS 1st, future pick swap, and four 2nd rounders for Tre Murphy.

Isn't Deni kind of like Bridges? He's really good all around and I think he would fit, but for the cost, would he really elevate bench scoring?

Still, he can play the 3 and the 4 and still has some 2 skills, so would be nice. The cost would be Mitch, so not sure. And Portland probably doesn't do it.

thebuzzardman · Post #2036 » by **thebuzzardman** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 3:05 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:Utah rested Kessler tonight, literally DNP-rest. What are they resting him for?

They were trying to collect the loss vs the Nets but they won, which I'll assume they considered an unfortunate turn of events.

Richard4444 · Post #2037 » by **Richard4444** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 4:01 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
Besart19 wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:The new CBA sucks

would you deal Bridges and Mitch for Ingram and a filler (Jones, Missi or Theiss)?

Not sure. Ingram brings lots of secondary creation but not much defense. Still might be worth it

Our defense sucks. This deal would make it even worse.

knicks1999 · Post #2038 » by **knicks1999** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:30 pm

douggood wrote:
lloydj wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:The new CBA sucks

Just curious…..is to “claim” a player off the waiver wire….or to sign him once he has been waived?
Question: The new CBA would not apply to a waved, non-buy out Ben Simmons?

waived/buyout same thing for this rule. basically anyone who becomes a free agent who earned more than the MLE cannot sign with teams in the apron.
https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2024/01/clarifying-the-nbas-new-rule-on-buyout-signings.html
This applies to both buyouts and standard waivers, so regardless of whether or not the player agreed to give up any money as part of his release, he’s ineligible to sign with an apron team if he had been earning more than $12,405,000.

sol537 · Post #2039 » by **sol537** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:48 pm

We should be looking at guys like Deandre Hunter, Tre Murphy III, or Deni (POR).... doubt either of those 3 are available but guys like that. 2-way, tall-ish 3&D dudes with upside who can give you 30 mins off the bench or who could push Hart to the bench and start next to OG. I'd pay a good price for that.

Jalen Bluntson · Post #2040 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:18 pm

sol537 wrote:We should be looking at guys like Deandre Hunter, Tre Murphy III, or Deni (POR).... doubt either of those 3 are available but guys like that. 2-way, tall-ish 3&D dudes with upside who can give you 30 mins off the bench or who could push Hart to the bench and start next to OG. I'd pay a good price for that.

We should be looking at guys that fit the description of guys we probably can't get. :lol:

Who would that be?