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three3d wrote: It’s not like what’s missing isn’t obvious...
three3d wrote:Skybox wrote:RichCollab wrote:
I watched last nights game. He can score as an individual and has some play making. He is a great shooter when given the space for sure. Fine for a boost of the bench but he lacks every where else.
Im not opposed but seems limited to a microwave scorer role which again would be nice to have.
That’s the role…suits him, suits us.
He’s young enough and universally panned enough to accept that more limited role…I just don’t think that he or the NBA community will be outraged by the “demotion”. He’ll have a real shot at 6MOY next year- if he’s on a strong playoff team like ORL.
We’re still playing with house money from AG trade. DEN pick is extra this summer (or ours)…especially true if we unload a guaranteed salary, like Cole’s, at the same time.
Because he want be paying State Income Tax Simons would actually be getting a raise. Not sure how much money he’s saving or making extra because of that but possibly it really helps us in 2 years when he’s up for a new contract.
eyriq wrote:three3d wrote: It’s not like what’s missing isn’t obvious...
I agree it's obvious. What's missing is experience for our core players. They are young and not even on their second contracts. We are still two seasons away from finally paying 70% + of the cap on our 3 best players.
Skybox wrote:three3d wrote:Skybox wrote:
That’s the role…suits him, suits us.
He’s young enough and universally panned enough to accept that more limited role…I just don’t think that he or the NBA community will be outraged by the “demotion”. He’ll have a real shot at 6MOY next year- if he’s on a strong playoff team like ORL.
We’re still playing with house money from AG trade. DEN pick is extra this summer (or ours)…especially true if we unload a guaranteed salary, like Cole’s, at the same time.
Because he want be paying State Income Tax Simons would actually be getting a raise. Not sure how much money he’s saving or making extra because of that but possibly it really helps us in 2 years when he’s up for a new contract.
I dont even know how eligible or legal etc it would be - but I’d look to extend him (immediately) for 3 more at $18-20 if he’d do it. Maybe even do a re-work, like Isaac or Myles Turner, where you bump him to $40m in the final year, but drop to $15m x 3 just as Paolo’s deal kicks in.
eyriq wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:Yes. We have one of the worst offenses in the league. There is absolutely a need to improve this roster.
Hard to evaluate a roster missing its best players. Probably just need to get healthy.
Skybox wrote:three3d wrote:Skybox wrote:
That’s the role…suits him, suits us.
He’s young enough and universally panned enough to accept that more limited role…I just don’t think that he or the NBA community will be outraged by the “demotion”. He’ll have a real shot at 6MOY next year- if he’s on a strong playoff team like ORL.
We’re still playing with house money from AG trade. DEN pick is extra this summer (or ours)…especially true if we unload a guaranteed salary, like Cole’s, at the same time.
Because he want be paying State Income Tax Simons would actually be getting a raise. Not sure how much money he’s saving or making extra because of that but possibly it really helps us in 2 years when he’s up for a new contract.
I dont even know how eligible or legal etc it would be - but I’d look to extend him (immediately) for 3 more at $18-20 if he’d do it. Maybe even do a re-work, like Isaac or Myles Turner, where you bump him to $40m in the final year, but drop to $15m x 3 just as Paolo’s deal kicks in.
Skybox wrote:
I dont even know how eligible or legal etc it would be - but I’d look to extend him (immediately) for 3 more at $18-20 if he’d do it. Maybe even do a re-work, like Isaac or Myles Turner, where you bump him to $40m in the final year, but drop to $15m x 3 just as Paolo’s deal kicks in.
drsd wrote:Skybox wrote:
I dont even know how eligible or legal etc it would be - but I’d look to extend him (immediately) for 3 more at $18-20 if he’d do it. Maybe even do a re-work, like Isaac or Myles Turner, where you bump him to $40m in the final year, but drop to $15m x 3 just as Paolo’s deal kicks in.
Looking at next year's 2025/26 salary, which is $27,678,571, Simons will pay Oregon USD$1,370,089.26 in state income tax. That is 41 home games. In Orlando, he thus gets a "raise" of that 1.4M.
So, yes, most NBA players make more take-home money playing in Florida than were-ever their current team is.
The states without state income tax are Alaska, Florida, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Wyoming.
This means that the players the the Heat, the Magic, the Spurs, the Mavs, the Rockets, and the Griz are the teams that take home more pay.
As an aside, the player who are with the Lakers, the Clippers, the Kings, the Warriors, and the Knicks, and the Nets do the worst.
(New York and California are the two NBA states with the highest state tax rates). They are 50th and 49th actually.
Healthy, and more experienced. The answers to most of our problems are already on the team.Blue_and_Whte wrote:eyriq wrote:Blue_and_Whte wrote:Yes. We have one of the worst offenses in the league. There is absolutely a need to improve this roster.
Hard to evaluate a roster missing its best players. Probably just need to get healthy.
Again? We had a healthy team last season. Guys are literally getting hurt having to play so hard on defense to make up for a complete lack of offense. This isn’t sustainable in the PO’s and last season showed that.
Skybox wrote:drsd wrote:Skybox wrote:
I dont even know how eligible or legal etc it would be - but I’d look to extend him (immediately) for 3 more at $18-20 if he’d do it. Maybe even do a re-work, like Isaac or Myles Turner, where you bump him to $40m in the final year, but drop to $15m x 3 just as Paolo’s deal kicks in.
Looking at next year's 2025/26 salary, which is $27,678,571, Simons will pay Oregon USD$1,370,089.26 in state income tax. That is 41 home games. In Orlando, he thus gets a "raise" of that 1.4M.
So, yes, most NBA players make more take-home money playing in Florida than were-ever their current team is.
The states without state income tax are Alaska, Florida, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Wyoming.
This means that the players the the Heat, the Magic, the Spurs, the Mavs, the Rockets, and the Griz are the teams that take home more pay.
As an aside, the player who are with the Lakers, the Clippers, the Kings, the Warriors, and the Knicks, and the Nets do the worst.
(New York and California are the two NBA states with the highest state tax rates). They are 50th and 49th actually.
Not sure if you took it into account already, but rules were changed to lessen the impact of a tax-free state (somewhat). You are only paying zero state income tax on home games or games in tax-free states. Still a significant thing, but altered just a few years ago - to some extent.
drsd wrote:Skybox wrote:
I dont even know how eligible or legal etc it would be - but I’d look to extend him (immediately) for 3 more at $18-20 if he’d do it. Maybe even do a re-work, like Isaac or Myles Turner, where you bump him to $40m in the final year, but drop to $15m x 3 just as Paolo’s deal kicks in.
Looking at next year's 2025/26 salary, which is $27,678,571, Simons will pay Oregon USD$1,370,089.26 in state income tax. That is 41 home games. In Orlando, he thus gets a "raise" of that 1.4M.
So, yes, most NBA players make more take-home money playing in Florida than were-ever their current team is.
The states without state income tax are Alaska, Florida, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Wyoming.
This means that the players the the Heat, the Magic, the Spurs, the Mavs, the Rockets, and the Griz are the teams that take home more pay.
As an aside, the player who are with the Lakers, the Clippers, the Kings, the Warriors, and the Knicks, and the Nets do the worst.
(New York and California are the two NBA states with the highest state tax rates). They are 50th and 49th actually.
three3d wrote:drsd wrote:Skybox wrote:
I dont even know how eligible or legal etc it would be - but I’d look to extend him (immediately) for 3 more at $18-20 if he’d do it. Maybe even do a re-work, like Isaac or Myles Turner, where you bump him to $40m in the final year, but drop to $15m x 3 just as Paolo’s deal kicks in.
Looking at next year's 2025/26 salary, which is $27,678,571, Simons will pay Oregon USD$1,370,089.26 in state income tax. That is 41 home games. In Orlando, he thus gets a "raise" of that 1.4M.
So, yes, most NBA players make more take-home money playing in Florida than were-ever their current team is.
The states without state income tax are Alaska, Florida, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Wyoming.
This means that the players the the Heat, the Magic, the Spurs, the Mavs, the Rockets, and the Griz are the teams that take home more pay.
As an aside, the player who are with the Lakers, the Clippers, the Kings, the Warriors, and the Knicks, and the Nets do the worst.
(New York and California are the two NBA states with the highest state tax rates). They are 50th and 49th actually.
https://www.procamps.com/simonsfl
Without actually asking Simons himself nobody knows what he actually values contract wise. He still does run a Summer Camp in Altamonte Springs so maybe the idea of playing back home is appealing. There are some things people would give up monetary incentives for, as stated he’s already getting a raise just by avoiding State Income Tax. Can you put a value on what the Magic offer, a chance to play Playoff basketball, a chance to be back home, no state income tax, playing with two All Stars that will make his job easier, a head coach that has so much respect around the league and cares about his players on a personal level. The incentives of just being apart of this team would/could appear to be way more valuable than money.
He's going to go wherever they offer him the most.three3d wrote:drsd wrote:Skybox wrote:
I dont even know how eligible or legal etc it would be - but I’d look to extend him (immediately) for 3 more at $18-20 if he’d do it. Maybe even do a re-work, like Isaac or Myles Turner, where you bump him to $40m in the final year, but drop to $15m x 3 just as Paolo’s deal kicks in.
Looking at next year's 2025/26 salary, which is $27,678,571, Simons will pay Oregon USD$1,370,089.26 in state income tax. That is 41 home games. In Orlando, he thus gets a "raise" of that 1.4M.
So, yes, most NBA players make more take-home money playing in Florida than were-ever their current team is.
The states without state income tax are Alaska, Florida, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Wyoming.
This means that the players the the Heat, the Magic, the Spurs, the Mavs, the Rockets, and the Griz are the teams that take home more pay.
As an aside, the player who are with the Lakers, the Clippers, the Kings, the Warriors, and the Knicks, and the Nets do the worst.
(New York and California are the two NBA states with the highest state tax rates). They are 50th and 49th actually.
https://www.procamps.com/simonsfl
Without actually asking Simons himself nobody knows what he actually values contract wise. He still does run a Summer Camp in Altamonte Springs so maybe the idea of playing back home is appealing. There are some things people would give up monetary incentives for, as stated he’s already getting a raise just by avoiding State Income Tax. Can you put a value on what the Magic offer, a chance to play Playoff basketball, a chance to be back home, no state income tax, playing with two All Stars that will make his job easier, a head coach that has so much respect around the league and cares about his players on a personal level. The incentives of just being apart of this team would/could appear to be way more valuable than money.
basketballRob wrote:He's going to go wherever they offer him the most.three3d wrote:drsd wrote:
Looking at next year's 2025/26 salary, which is $27,678,571, Simons will pay Oregon USD$1,370,089.26 in state income tax. That is 41 home games. In Orlando, he thus gets a "raise" of that 1.4M.
So, yes, most NBA players make more take-home money playing in Florida than were-ever their current team is.
The states without state income tax are Alaska, Florida, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas and Wyoming.
This means that the players the the Heat, the Magic, the Spurs, the Mavs, the Rockets, and the Griz are the teams that take home more pay.
As an aside, the player who are with the Lakers, the Clippers, the Kings, the Warriors, and the Knicks, and the Nets do the worst.
(New York and California are the two NBA states with the highest state tax rates). They are 50th and 49th actually.
https://www.procamps.com/simonsfl
Without actually asking Simons himself nobody knows what he actually values contract wise. He still does run a Summer Camp in Altamonte Springs so maybe the idea of playing back home is appealing. There are some things people would give up monetary incentives for, as stated he’s already getting a raise just by avoiding State Income Tax. Can you put a value on what the Magic offer, a chance to play Playoff basketball, a chance to be back home, no state income tax, playing with two All Stars that will make his job easier, a head coach that has so much respect around the league and cares about his players on a personal level. The incentives of just being apart of this team would/could appear to be way more valuable than money.
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Skybox wrote:basketballRob wrote:He's going to go wherever they offer him the most.three3d wrote:
https://www.procamps.com/simonsfl
Without actually asking Simons himself nobody knows what he actually values contract wise. He still does run a Summer Camp in Altamonte Springs so maybe the idea of playing back home is appealing. There are some things people would give up monetary incentives for, as stated he’s already getting a raise just by avoiding State Income Tax. Can you put a value on what the Magic offer, a chance to play Playoff basketball, a chance to be back home, no state income tax, playing with two All Stars that will make his job easier, a head coach that has so much respect around the league and cares about his players on a personal level. The incentives of just being apart of this team would/could appear to be way more valuable than money.
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He's going to go where he's traded...and, in a year, we'll decide what he's worth TO US.
How many highly-compensated guys are changing teams over raw dollars these days? It's rarely as simple (and NEVER as certain) as you like to paint things.
