Jcool0 wrote:
I would love Ben Johnson or McCarthy with Rivera as DC. Now we are cooking.
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Jcool0 wrote:
Betta Bulleavit wrote:Jcool0 wrote:
I just don’t understand what Jerry is really working at here. You deny a team permission to talk to him but instead he seems content to let the clock run out on the window to negotiate with him exclusively. Why do that?
fleet wrote:Jcool0 wrote:
I would love Ben Johnson or McCarthy with Rivera as DC. Now we are cooking.
fleet wrote:Maybe Jerry Jones has Ben Johnson on a string.
Betta Bulleavit wrote:So, with McCarthy being available now, does it change anyone’s order on their HC of choice?
jnrjr79 wrote:Betta Bulleavit wrote:So, with McCarthy being available now, does it change anyone’s order on their HC of choice?
He's not particularly high on my list, but I would take him over some of the many other candidates that have been interviewed, I guess.
It's always hard to say because IMO it's easier for fans to have an opinion on people who have been a head coach before than to really have good opinions on coordinators.
For instance, I am confident Ben Johnson is an excellent OC/playcaller, but I have no idea how he would do with the leadership aspects of being a HC. But I'd still gamble on him over McCarthy, if given the choice.
Betta Bulleavit wrote:So, with McCarthy being available now, does it change anyone’s order on their HC of choice?
Betta Bulleavit wrote:jnrjr79 wrote:Betta Bulleavit wrote:So, with McCarthy being available now, does it change anyone’s order on their HC of choice?
He's not particularly high on my list, but I would take him over some of the many other candidates that have been interviewed, I guess.
It's always hard to say because IMO it's easier for fans to have an opinion on people who have been a head coach before than to really have good opinions on coordinators.
For instance, I am confident Ben Johnson is an excellent OC/playcaller, but I have no idea how he would do with the leadership aspects of being a HC. But I'd still gamble on him over McCarthy, if given the choice.
Agreed. Up until now, my top 3 in order were:
Johnson
Carroll
Kingsbury
That has now changed to:
Johnson
Carroll
McCarthy
Jcool0 wrote:Betta Bulleavit wrote:jnrjr79 wrote:
He's not particularly high on my list, but I would take him over some of the many other candidates that have been interviewed, I guess.
It's always hard to say because IMO it's easier for fans to have an opinion on people who have been a head coach before than to really have good opinions on coordinators.
For instance, I am confident Ben Johnson is an excellent OC/playcaller, but I have no idea how he would do with the leadership aspects of being a HC. But I'd still gamble on him over McCarthy, if given the choice.
Agreed. Up until now, my top 3 in order were:
Johnson
Carroll
Kingsbury
That has now changed to:
Johnson
Carroll
McCarthy
Kingsbury is an awful head coach he didn't have a winning record with Patrick Mahomes throwing for 5000 yards and 40 TDs. Carroll is washed up and 73.
Jcool0 wrote:Betta Bulleavit wrote:jnrjr79 wrote:
He's not particularly high on my list, but I would take him over some of the many other candidates that have been interviewed, I guess.
It's always hard to say because IMO it's easier for fans to have an opinion on people who have been a head coach before than to really have good opinions on coordinators.
For instance, I am confident Ben Johnson is an excellent OC/playcaller, but I have no idea how he would do with the leadership aspects of being a HC. But I'd still gamble on him over McCarthy, if given the choice.
Agreed. Up until now, my top 3 in order were:
Johnson
Carroll
Kingsbury
That has now changed to:
Johnson
Carroll
McCarthy
Kingsbury is an awful head coach he didn't have a winning record with Patrick Mahomes throwing for 5000 yards and 40 TDs. Carroll is washed up and 73.
Betta Bulleavit wrote:Jcool0 wrote:Betta Bulleavit wrote:Agreed. Up until now, my top 3 in order were:
Johnson
Carroll
Kingsbury
That has now changed to:
Johnson
Carroll
McCarthy
Kingsbury is an awful head coach he didn't have a winning record with Patrick Mahomes throwing for 5000 yards and 40 TDs. Carroll is washed up and 73.
I say Kingsbury mainly because of his connection to Caleb and potentially knowing how to get the most out of a Caleb led offense.
Just because a coach is in his 70s doesn’t mean that he’s washed. I’ve heard a couple of Pete Carroll interviews since he parted ways with Seattle and you can tell that his coaching chops are still there. Seattle didn’t move on from him because he was finished. They moved on because they simply thought it was time for a new voice. Two different things.
Jcool0 wrote:Betta Bulleavit wrote:Jcool0 wrote:
Kingsbury is an awful head coach he didn't have a winning record with Patrick Mahomes throwing for 5000 yards and 40 TDs. Carroll is washed up and 73.
I say Kingsbury mainly because of his connection to Caleb and potentially knowing how to get the most out of a Caleb led offense.
Just because a coach is in his 70s doesn’t mean that he’s washed. I’ve heard a couple of Pete Carroll interviews since he parted ways with Seattle and you can tell that his coaching chops are still there. Seattle didn’t move on from him because he was finished. They moved on because they simply thought it was time for a new voice. Two different things.
Carroll made the playoffs once in his last 3 seasons and was 3-6 in hist last 9 playoff games. His last top 10 defense was in 2016. And the last OC he hired was Shane Waldron.
fleet wrote:Jcool0 wrote:Betta Bulleavit wrote:Agreed. Up until now, my top 3 in order were:
Johnson
Carroll
Kingsbury
That has now changed to:
Johnson
Carroll
McCarthy
Kingsbury is an awful head coach he didn't have a winning record with Patrick Mahomes throwing for 5000 yards and 40 TDs. Carroll is washed up and 73.
Bill Belichick’s record without Brady is like 83-104. I don’t believe Kingsbury had Brady either. Mahomes has said that Kingsbury helped him become the player he is today. I’m sure Jayden Daniels will say the same.
fleet wrote:Jcool0 wrote:Betta Bulleavit wrote:Agreed. Up until now, my top 3 in order were:
Johnson
Carroll
Kingsbury
That has now changed to:
Johnson
Carroll
McCarthy
Kingsbury is an awful head coach he didn't have a winning record with Patrick Mahomes throwing for 5000 yards and 40 TDs. Carroll is washed up and 73.
Bill Belichick’s record without Brady is like 83-104. I don’t believe Kingsbury had Brady either. Mahomes has said that Kingsbury helped him become the player he is today. I’m sure Jayden Daniels will say the same.
fleet wrote:Maybe Jerry Jones has Ben Johnson on a string.