BI for OG could expand later

winforlose · Post #1 » by **winforlose** » Sat Jan 11, 2025 9:29 pm

BI to NYK
OG to NOP

Why for NYK: Knicks get more offensive production, get out from under the OG contract, position themselves to try and retain BI at a reasonable cost, or have a salary to move next year in a sign, hold for a few months, then deal.

Why for NOP: OG is a bad contract now, but he fits well with Messi and Zion next year. You trade offense for another excellent defender who pairs very well with Herb when he is back. As the cap expands and new deals are signed OG’s money starts to look better in a year or two. BI as a distraction is gone, and the future looks more stable.

Pattycakes · Post #2 » by **Pattycakes** » Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:46 pm

I don’t see New York doing this without something

nykballa2k4 · Post #3 » by **nykballa2k4** » Sat Jan 11, 2025 10:51 pm

winforlose wrote:BI to NYK
OG to NOP

Why for NYK: Knicks get more offensive production, get out from under the OG contract, position themselves to try and retain BI at a reasonable cost, or have a salary to move next year in a sign, hold for a few months, then deal.

Why for NOP: OG is a bad contract now, but he fits well with Messi and Zion next year. You trade offense for another excellent defender who pairs very well with Herb when he is back. As the cap expands and new deals are signed OG’s money starts to look better in a year or two. BI as a distraction is gone, and the future looks more stable.

our issues include having too many scorers in the starting 5 and poor defense.
this doesn't help NY and this is a lot of money for NO to take on for a role player (3rd guy)

One_and_Done · Post #4 » by **One_and_Done** » Sat Jan 11, 2025 11:01 pm

I don't see NY moving OG at all.

R-DAWG · Post #5 » by **R-DAWG** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 1:55 am

I am one of the few Knicks fans who thinks we should look into moving off OG for more depth, but this deal makes no sense, unless the Pelicans can find a way to get us all our picks back from Brooklyn.

cgf · Post #6 » by **cgf** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:06 pm

A trade like this would really make this Knicks fan lose faith in our FO.

Post #7 » by **jbk1234** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:12 pm

At a minimum, I would think Herb Jones would have to be attached to Ingram for NY to even consider this. Then you get to the question of whether the Pelicans can even afford OG with Zion, and Murphy's extension kicking in. The entire reason BI is available is they don't view him as a max guy.

Post #8 » by **Texas Chuck** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:27 pm

Knicks shouldn't do this for basketball reasons. They need what OG does way more than what BI does. Pels would obviously do this if offered and then just flip OG for value.

BowlRips · Post #9 » by **BowlRips** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 8:53 pm

I don't see Knicks having any interest in a BI for OG swap considering how they shaped their roster.
This has come up before.

However, Zion.....

cgf · Post #10 » by **cgf** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:43 pm

BowlRips wrote:I don't see Knicks having any interest in a BI for OG swap considering how they shaped their roster.
This has come up before.

However, Zion.....

Why would we want to pay a poorman's Randle as much as Zion is paid?

Skybox · Post #11 » by **Skybox** » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:58 pm

1) OG isn't really a fit on a team with Trey Murphy and Herb Jones, is he?
2) NYK really don't need that kind of scorer (not a great floor spreader) crowding the floor and demanding on-ball reps from JB
3) Thibs will choke Ingram before the end of the first half of poor defensive effort