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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1441 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:52 pm

Rafael122 wrote:
Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:I won't be terribly shocked if the Commanders are favored against Detroit.

(EDITED: Detroit -8.5 is the spread)


I'm a homer, but there was never any chance the Commanders would be favored against Detroit lol. The question would have been if it was a double digit spread. It's not, wouldn't be shocked if it came down to a touchdown favorite for Detroit at the end of it. I actually think we have a puncher's chance against them. Their defense is a mash unit at this point so we'll see. It just wouldn't shock me if we won.


I riding a tsunami wave of homerism.

I think we have more than a puncher's chance to win. I won't be surprised if we win, either.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1442 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:54 pm

tontoz wrote:Looking at the teams that are left, they have stars that aren't QBs. A lot of them. We don't have a star on the o line or d line. Everyone else does. We're here because 5 is that dude. Going forward we will have the best QB in the conference and it will be up to Peters to upgrade the roster enough to make us contenders.

Detroit's roster is so much better than ours it's ridiculous. The only reason we might have a chance is all the injuries they have on defense.
Tampa Bay's D-line was gobbling up our O-line and RBs like Pac Man.

I don't know how we won that game.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1443 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Jan 13, 2025 9:57 pm

TGW wrote:Typing this from Tampa as we speak....Commanders fans straight up took over that stadium. Bucs fans were completely outnumbered in our section lol.

And the hate for Lattimore is ridiculous. Y'all are some haters. That dude is fighting a bad hamstring while having to cover a first ballot hoffer. Quit your belly aching.
It's just me hating.

Next season when his hamstring is still hurting, I wlli remind you that he had hamstring issues for 3 straight seasons before the Commanders acquired him.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1444 » by tontoz » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:02 pm

TGW wrote:Typing this from Tampa as we speak....Commanders fans straight up took over that stadium. Bucs fans were completely outnumbered in our section lol.

And the hate for Lattimore is ridiculous. Y'all are some haters. That dude is fighting a bad hamstring while having to cover a first ballot hoffer. Quit your belly aching.



Way to represent :party:
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Post#1445 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:03 pm

CORRECTION

Here's a history of Lattimore's injuries

https://www.draftsharks.com/fantasy/injury-history/marshon-lattimore/9511

I have spread lies/misinformation all over the place about his hamstrings. Yet, this doesn't explain all the missed games the past three seasons.
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Post#1446 » by Dark Faze » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:04 pm

Can Lattimore play safety? Dude seems really strong and I've been really impressed with his closing out on some of the running back breakways in the backfield this season. Would provide a bit of relief for that hamstring versus some of the short burst quickness required as a corner at the line of scrimmage.
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Post#1447 » by tontoz » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:17 pm

I am pretty sure Peters investigated Lattimore's injury history before trading for him.
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Post#1448 » by pancakes3 » Mon Jan 13, 2025 10:55 pm

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tontoz wrote:Looking at the teams that are left, they have stars that aren't QBs. A lot of them. We don't have a star on the o line or d line. Everyone else does. We're here because 5 is that dude. Going forward we will have the best QB in the conference and it will be up to Peters to upgrade the roster enough to make us contenders.

Detroit's roster is so much better than ours it's ridiculous. The only reason we might have a chance is all the injuries they have on defense.


With Hutchinson out that evens the scales quite a bit as far as the defensive line. Especially with Jonathan Allen returning back to the lineup who has made the pro bowl twice in his career- so has Payne who has made it twice. Fowler/Armstrong have more sacks than anyone that the Lions are going to be putting out there- while Payne has as many sacks as Zadarius Smith.

Lions offensive line is significantly better lead by Sewell although the Commanders do have a couple good offensive linemen Cosmi is also arguably a pro bowl caliber player. Tyler Biadasz is also arguably a pro caliber player who made it in 2023 (saw fans on Reddit were upset that he didn't make a pro bowl). Jayden Daniels is a cheat code though so at least that evens it out.

But yeah the Lions are simply deeper they have 7 pro bowlers and 11 pro bowl alternates. :o

My biggest concerns
- Lions have the better running game with Montgomery/Gibbs (I like Ekeler but if Robinson is the one who has been playing like garbage lately, had some big holes but I believe his longest rush was 6 yards)
- Lions have the better kicker (1 of the pro bowl alternates)
- Homefield advantage/crowd noise in an indoor stadium (although the indoor stadium could be ideal for Daniels to have a big game)

It does feel like Washington is playing with found money though so they do have a good chance to keep building on the momentum.


Payne had his hand stepped on last night and left the game. Dislocated finger. I'm sure he'll play but he's not going to be as effective.

Unless they bring back THE CLUB as a medical treatment.
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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1449 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:50 am

tontoz wrote:I am pretty sure Peters investigated Lattimore's injury history before trading for him.
When he made the deal, didn't Peters expect that Lattimore was essentially healthy?


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Post#1450 » by Tyrone Messby » Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:30 pm

I’m not joking when I truly believe we have the next face of the league in JD5. He is going to be the heir to Mahomes. We have waited so long for this. Wait until we get him some real weapons alongside Terry!
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Post#1451 » by tontoz » Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:46 pm

Tyrone Messby wrote:I’m not joking when I truly believe we have the next face of the league in JD5. He is going to be the heir to Mahomes. We have waited so long for this. Wait until we get him some real weapons alongside Terry!


What we really need is a legit left tackle. Right now we have a rookie 3rd round pick there. That is causing JD5 to take too many sacks.
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Post#1452 » by Tyrone Messby » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:10 pm

tontoz wrote:
Tyrone Messby wrote:I’m not joking when I truly believe we have the next face of the league in JD5. He is going to be the heir to Mahomes. We have waited so long for this. Wait until we get him some real weapons alongside Terry!


What we really need is a legit left tackle. Right now we have a rookie 3rd round pick there. That is causing JD5 to take too many sacks.

Absolutely. Cosmi and Biadasz are the only starters worth keeping imo. Cosmi got a lot of grief for the Falcons game but the refs were targeting him it felt like. Some really BS calls.
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Post#1453 » by tontoz » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:21 pm

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tontoz wrote:
Tyrone Messby wrote:I’m not joking when I truly believe we have the next face of the league in JD5. He is going to be the heir to Mahomes. We have waited so long for this. Wait until we get him some real weapons alongside Terry!


What we really need is a legit left tackle. Right now we have a rookie 3rd round pick there. That is causing JD5 to take too many sacks.

Absolutely. Cosmi and Biadasz are the only starters worth keeping imo. Cosmi got a lot of grief for the Falcons game but the refs were targeting him it felt like. Some really BS calls.



I heard Quinn address that. He said there was a technique the lineman use which technically isn't a hold but it getting misinterpreted by the refs. He said they may just have to stop using it which it looks like they did.

Allegretti has been pretty good too.
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Post#1454 » by gambitx777 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 2:30 pm

tontoz wrote:
Tyrone Messby wrote:
tontoz wrote:
What we really need is a legit left tackle. Right now we have a rookie 3rd round pick there. That is causing JD5 to take too many sacks.

Absolutely. Cosmi and Biadasz are the only starters worth keeping imo. Cosmi got a lot of grief for the Falcons game but the refs were targeting him it felt like. Some really BS calls.



I heard Quinn address that. He said there was a technique the lineman use which technically isn't a hold but it getting misinterpreted by the refs. He said they may just have to stop using it which it looks like they did.

Allegretti has been pretty good too.
You can not pick the O Line but for **** sakes they did improve the line a lot. It was one of the worst last year. They brought it up to at least average and they could really continue to improve it those year.

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Re: The Washington Commanders Thread 

Post#1455 » by LyricalRico » Tue Jan 14, 2025 5:13 pm

Not a Commanders post...but...I gotta say that spending the last two weeks watching Sam Darnold use the biggest games of the year to progressively take money out of his own pocket with every snap has been morbidly entertaining.

I'd actually have gone with Daniel Jones in the second half. At least he might've been able to do some things with his legs against the Rams pass rush. LA had Darnold looking legit scared to throw the ball at times last night.
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Post#1456 » by Kanyewest » Tue Jan 14, 2025 5:36 pm

gambitx777 wrote:
tontoz wrote:
Tyrone Messby wrote:Absolutely. Cosmi and Biadasz are the only starters worth keeping imo. Cosmi got a lot of grief for the Falcons game but the refs were targeting him it felt like. Some really BS calls.



I heard Quinn address that. He said there was a technique the lineman use which technically isn't a hold but it getting misinterpreted by the refs. He said they may just have to stop using it which it looks like they did.

Allegretti has been pretty good too.
You can not pick the O Line but for **** sakes they did improve the line a lot. It was one of the worst last year. They brought it up to at least average and they could really continue to improve it those year.

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PFF ranked Washington offensive line as the 2nd best this season.

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Post#1457 » by pancakes3 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:01 pm

I had an observation about the o-line while watching the tampa game in that with the RPO being more involved in our offense due to overall NFL trends, our OC, and our QB, the line play doesn't just need talent, but cohesion which comes with time playing together so we need to either commit to this line, or assemble a new line that will stay in place and grow with JD5.

I say this because there have been multiple penalties, not just in the Tampa game, but around the league with other teams where they called an RPO (run option first), and the QB pulls it at the last second to throw it, and one of the linemen (out of 5) is not on the same page, and goes to the second level to lay out a linebacker (thinking it's a run play) and gets called for being an ineligible receiver downfield. I get that it's a tough play for the linemen, and also intrinsic to the play being called, and is nitpicky, but it is what it is.

But o-line cohesion like the Eagles had when their won their SB is invaluable, and I think should be part of the strategy going forward.
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Post#1458 » by Tyrone Messby » Tue Jan 14, 2025 8:26 pm

Kanyewest wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:
tontoz wrote:

I heard Quinn address that. He said there was a technique the lineman use which technically isn't a hold but it getting misinterpreted by the refs. He said they may just have to stop using it which it looks like they did.

Allegretti has been pretty good too.
You can not pick the O Line but for **** sakes they did improve the line a lot. It was one of the worst last year. They brought it up to at least average and they could really continue to improve it those year.

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PFF ranked Washington offensive line as the 2nd best this season.

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I think Jayden has a TON to do with that ranking. And they couldn’t get any type of push against the Bucs at all. B Rob looked more average than usual against them :lol:
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Post#1459 » by Kanyewest » Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:07 pm

Tyrone Messby wrote:
Kanyewest wrote:
gambitx777 wrote:You can not pick the O Line but for **** sakes they did improve the line a lot. It was one of the worst last year. They brought it up to at least average and they could really continue to improve it those year.

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PFF ranked Washington offensive line as the 2nd best this season.

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I think Jayden has a TON to do with that ranking. And they couldn’t get any type of push against the Bucs at all. B Rob looked more average than usual against them :lol:


True. Same goes for the Ravens though with Jackson/Henry and the Eagles with Hurts/Barkley- who were listed 1-3. Robinson has been below average to close out the season but yeah last Sunday was probably his worst game. I think the offensive line opened up a good hole for him on a couple of plays but he isn't doing much after contact. I think he's the worst starting running back left in the playoffs (Mixon, Pacheco, Cook, Henry, Barkley, Kyren Williams) although I am hoping he can play like he did during the first half of the season.
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Post#1460 » by pancakes3 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:17 pm

ekeler though was pretty good. as good as cook probably. but those other guys are studs
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