Coaches thread

[Lakers In 5]

Oh God, please let this happen. This would be the Magnum Opus of Clown Jerry.

[Mr Swagtastic]

Nobody is talking on Daks deal unless they really think he's going to turn their franchise around. Maybe Vegas is that stupid

How about Tennessee? They have the #1 pick. Would the Titans be better if they added Dak?

Why they have will Levis what are they going to do with him? Relegate him to a backup role? Sure he's not great but The Titans clearly weren't good. IMHO if they are going QB route it's Cam Ward and probably moving Levis for a 4th-5th round pick.

[Mr B]

Nobody is talking on Daks deal unless they really think he's going to turn their franchise around. Maybe Vegas is that stupid

How about Tennessee? They have the #1 pick. Would the Titans be better if they added Dak?

Why they have will Levis what are they going to do with him? Relegate him to a backup role? Sure he's not great but The Titans clearly weren't good. IMHO if they are going QB route it's Cam Ward and probably moving Levis for a 4th-5th round pick.

Dak has his flaws but he’s way better than Will Levis. Besides the draft pick they don’t have a lot invested in Levis. So yea, keep him as the backup or they can trade him. He’s still on his rookie contract so they would have tons of options with Levis.

[El Turco]

Nobody is talking on Daks deal unless they really think he's going to turn their franchise around. Maybe Vegas is that stupid

How about Tennessee? They have the #1 pick. Would the Titans be better if they added Dak?

With that contract I'd be shocked if Dak has any type of positive value, let alone enough to jump from 12th to first. Dallas probably needs to send a first rounder just to get rid of Dak at some point.

[bluejerseyjinx]

Boring……..
Just go away you crazy senile old man.

No GM, No coach, no QB, what will you do?

I all want is no you!

[Mr B]

Nobody is talking on Daks deal unless they really think he's going to turn their franchise around. Maybe Vegas is that stupid

How about Tennessee? They have the #1 pick. Would the Titans be better if they added Dak?

With that contract I'd be shocked if Dak has any type of positive value, let alone enough to jump from 12th to first. Dallas probably needs to send a first rounder just to get rid of Dak at some point.

Yea the contract absolutely makes any trade damn near impossible. One thing you have to remember though that any team trading for Dak would not be on the hook for any guaranteed money. So if Tennessee decided to then trade him they would have essentially no cap hit because Dallas will have already paid all his guaranteed money. All of this is really all moot anyways because another part of the contract will immediately stop any trade and that’s Dak’s no trade clause.

At the end of the day I don’t think they are going to hire Deion, they’re not going to draft Shedeur, and they are not going to trade Dak.

The next Cowboys coach is going to be just like the last one, and the one before that and the one before that. It’s going to be someone that Jerry and Stephen can control. A known name that NEEDS the job. That way Jerry has him by the balls. I really think the Cowboys next head coach is going to be one of Kellen Moore, Doug Pederson, Jon Gruden, or Mike Zimmer.

Also does anyone know, is the Rooney Rule still a thing?

[Micah Prescott]

Stephen Jones had a slip up the other day -

“[Lance] is a top-tier pick, a guy we had at the top,” Stephen Jones said on 105.3 The Fan on Friday. “As you know, Dak was coming up for a contract, and we wanted to take a look at a good, young talent and didn’t feel like we could get anything from a quality standpoint like we could get with Trey. As it turns out, we ended up signing Dak long-term. So, obviously that puts a little less need in terms of having to rush to do something with Trey. Matter of fact, it makes it hard because Trey, I’m sure, is wanting to see what’s out there now that we have committed to Dak long-term. But I don’t regret that at all.”
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/stephen-jones-on-trade-for-trey-lance-i-dont-regret-that-at-all

HE doesn't regret the Trey Lance trade. Not "they"


Stephen 10 days ago on MM -

Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones said the team hasn't "even thought about" the timing of making a decision about head coach Mike McCarthy.

"We've been so focused on this season that we haven't really even thought about it in terms of timing," Jones said on San Antonio's Sports Star (h/t The Athletic's Jon Machota). "Obviously Mike McCarthy and his staff have done a hell of a job for us. We'll really sit down and go over that, but in terms of starting to set up time schedules and those types of things in terms of when we'll make decisions, we haven't gotten to that point."
https://www.bleacherreport.com/articles/10149386-cowboys-stephen-jones-we-havent-really-even-thought-about-timing-on-hc-decision



Why am I posting this in here? Just to point out that it is becoming pretty obvious that Jerry Jones is no longer the GM. Stephen is.

Seeing lots of "He would never go to Dallas and be Jerry's puppet!" type comments.

But Jerry IS the puppet now. His son is in control of him.

His son running day to day operations doesn't mean Jerry doesn't/ wouldn't meddle

Sure but if Stephen disagrees with Jerry? It looks to me like Stephen has last say. I would bet that Jerry wanted to rehire MM and Stephen talked him out of it.

Coach salaries don't go against the cap and the Cowboys have plenty of money so it's hard for me to believe that contract talks were that much of issue. It's not like negotiating with a player where you have to keep the cap in mind. If they want any coach they can afford any coach.

Stephen is steering the ship and Jerry might be allowing it, as he knows Stephen will inherit the GM position, or he may believe he is still in control and his son is simply talking him in and out of things. IDK but that part doesn't matter too much.

[Cactus Jack]

Also does anyone know, is the Rooney Rule still a thing?

Yes

[QB_Eagles]

Sure but if Stephen disagrees with Jerry? It looks to me like Stephen has last say. I would bet that Jerry wanted to rehire MM and Stephen talked him out of it.

As long as Jerry is alive, he will have last say.

[Mr B]

Stephen Jones had a slip up the other day -

“[Lance] is a top-tier pick, a guy we had at the top,” Stephen Jones said on 105.3 The Fan on Friday. “As you know, Dak was coming up for a contract, and we wanted to take a look at a good, young talent and didn’t feel like we could get anything from a quality standpoint like we could get with Trey. As it turns out, we ended up signing Dak long-term. So, obviously that puts a little less need in terms of having to rush to do something with Trey. Matter of fact, it makes it hard because Trey, I’m sure, is wanting to see what’s out there now that we have committed to Dak long-term. But I don’t regret that at all.”
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/stephen-jones-on-trade-for-trey-lance-i-dont-regret-that-at-all

HE doesn't regret the Trey Lance trade. Not "they"


Stephen 10 days ago on MM -

Cowboys executive vice president Stephen Jones said the team hasn't "even thought about" the timing of making a decision about head coach Mike McCarthy.

"We've been so focused on this season that we haven't really even thought about it in terms of timing," Jones said on San Antonio's Sports Star (h/t The Athletic's Jon Machota). "Obviously Mike McCarthy and his staff have done a hell of a job for us. We'll really sit down and go over that, but in terms of starting to set up time schedules and those types of things in terms of when we'll make decisions, we haven't gotten to that point."
https://www.bleacherreport.com/articles/10149386-cowboys-stephen-jones-we-havent-really-even-thought-about-timing-on-hc-decision



Why am I posting this in here? Just to point out that it is becoming pretty obvious that Jerry Jones is no longer the GM. Stephen is.

Seeing lots of "He would never go to Dallas and be Jerry's puppet!" type comments.

But Jerry IS the puppet now. His son is in control of him.

His son running day to day operations doesn't mean Jerry doesn't/ wouldn't meddle

Sure but if Stephen disagrees with Jerry? It looks to me like Stephen has last say. I would bet that Jerry wanted to rehire MM and Stephen talked him out of it.

Coach salaries don't go against the cap and the Cowboys have plenty of money so it's hard for me to believe that contract talks were that much of issue. It's not like negotiating with a player where you have to keep the cap in mind. If they want any coach they can afford any coach.

Stephen is steering the ship and Jerry might be allowing it, as he knows Stephen will inherit the GM position, or he may believe he is still in control and his son is simply talking him in and out of things. IDK but that part doesn't matter too much.

From what I’ve heard the contract offer to MM was for 1 more season with an option for a 2nd season. Also from what I’ve heard the Jones lowered the pool of money that was to pay the assistant coaches. MM walked when he heard the terms (he wanted a 4-5 year deal).

[Mr B]

Also does anyone know, is the Rooney Rule still a thing?

Yes

That is why Deion is being interviewed. Also the fact that Jerry has not asked for permission to talk to any assistants still coaching tells me they will hire a retread.

[Micah Prescott]

His son running day to day operations doesn't mean Jerry doesn't/ wouldn't meddle

Sure but if Stephen disagrees with Jerry? It looks to me like Stephen has last say. I would bet that Jerry wanted to rehire MM and Stephen talked him out of it.

Coach salaries don't go against the cap and the Cowboys have plenty of money so it's hard for me to believe that contract talks were that much of issue. It's not like negotiating with a player where you have to keep the cap in mind. If they want any coach they can afford any coach.

Stephen is steering the ship and Jerry might be allowing it, as he knows Stephen will inherit the GM position, or he may believe he is still in control and his son is simply talking him in and out of things. IDK but that part doesn't matter too much.

From what I’ve heard the contract offer to MM was for 1 more season with an option for a 2nd season. Also from what I’ve heard the Jones lowered the pool of money that was to pay the assistant coaches. MM walked when he heard the terms (he wanted a 4-5 year deal).

If true sounds like they purposely low balled him and never considered him a real option, I mean they knew other teams want to talk to him.

[Micah Prescott]

Also does anyone know, is the Rooney Rule still a thing?

Yes

That is why Deion is being interviewed. Also the fact that Jerry has not asked for permission to talk to any assistants still coaching tells me they will hire a retread.

Good point

[Mr B]

Sure but if Stephen disagrees with Jerry? It looks to me like Stephen has last say. I would bet that Jerry wanted to rehire MM and Stephen talked him out of it.

Coach salaries don't go against the cap and the Cowboys have plenty of money so it's hard for me to believe that contract talks were that much of issue. It's not like negotiating with a player where you have to keep the cap in mind. If they want any coach they can afford any coach.

Stephen is steering the ship and Jerry might be allowing it, as he knows Stephen will inherit the GM position, or he may believe he is still in control and his son is simply talking him in and out of things. IDK but that part doesn't matter too much.

From what I’ve heard the contract offer to MM was for 1 more season with an option for a 2nd season. Also from what I’ve heard the Jones lowered the pool of money that was to pay the assistant coaches. MM walked when he heard the terms (he wanted a 4-5 year deal).

If true sounds like they purposely low balled him and never considered him a real option, I mean they knew other teams want to talk to him.

Yea it sounds like they really didn’t want him back unless it was for a really low ball offer. Word is they also do still have interest in Bill Belichick but would have to pay his $10M buyout. That’s not an insane amount of money if they REALLY want him.

[Micah Prescott]

From what I’ve heard the contract offer to MM was for 1 more season with an option for a 2nd season. Also from what I’ve heard the Jones lowered the pool of money that was to pay the assistant coaches. MM walked when he heard the terms (he wanted a 4-5 year deal).

If true sounds like they purposely low balled him and never considered him a real option, I mean they knew other teams want to talk to him.

Yea it sounds like they really didn’t want him back unless it was for a really low ball offer. Word is they also do still have interest in Bill Belichick but would have to pay his $10M buyout. That’s not an insane amount of money if they REALLY want him.

They *SHOULD* do that assuming Bill is willing. I am seeing rumors that Bill did in fact want to coach in Dallas. $10m is small price to pay for Jerry IMO.

Bill may now feel like that would be a huge kick in the balls to NC though, and it would be. So he might not be willing for that reason.

[Mr B]

If true sounds like they purposely low balled him and never considered him a real option, I mean they knew other teams want to talk to him.

Yea it sounds like they really didn’t want him back unless it was for a really low ball offer. Word is they also do still have interest in Bill Belichick but would have to pay his $10M buyout. That’s not an insane amount of money if they REALLY want him.

They *SHOULD* do that assuming Bill is willing. I am seeing rumors that Bill did in fact want to coach in Dallas. $10m is small price to pay for Jerry IMO.

Bill may now feel like that would be a huge kick in the balls to NC though, and it would be. So he might not be willing for that reason.

Bill doesn’t care about kicking someone in the nuts, just ask the Jets.

[Mr B]

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[Micah Prescott]

I'm honestly just excited that the Cowboys are moving onto a new coaching staff and system. Even if it is Deion Sanders, who I do not not feel will ever make for a great coach. At least we are pivoting onto something else. I mean, no one knows what Deion as a HC in the NFL would look like. Deion doesn't even know. He might surprise all of us. Maybe the players rally hard around him, or maybe he will be what most suspect, a sucky HC lol. At least it's something new to look forward to which we couldn't get with MM.

I think the players really need a fresh start mindset, knowing it's going to be something different from previous years. We will get that no matter who it is.

[Mr Swagtastic]

How about Tennessee? They have the #1 pick. Would the Titans be better if they added Dak?

Why they have will Levis what are they going to do with him? Relegate him to a backup role? Sure he's not great but The Titans clearly weren't good. IMHO if they are going QB route it's Cam Ward and probably moving Levis for a 4th-5th round pick.

Dak has his flaws but he’s way better than Will Levis. Besides the draft pick they don’t have a lot invested in Levis. So yea, keep him as the backup or they can trade him. He’s still on his rookie contract so they would have tons of options with Levis.

Sorry worded it wrong. Dak has more skill vs Levis I just can't see Tennessee brining in another QB especially one who had a bad season. Let's be real Dak wasn't good or else Dallas is sniffing the playoffs.... Well having a loud mouth in Parsons doesn't help and a circus ring leader in Jerry Jones. Point is I can't see The Titans doing this. Maybe you convince Minny to take him as a stop gap if McCarthy isn't rehabbing the way he should be. I honestly think the only realistic spot for him is Las Vegas or possibly the Jets

[Cactus Jack]

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