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2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#141 » by Psubs » Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:15 pm

Van_Trump wrote:https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/dallas-mavericks/news/mavericks-predicted-acquire-26-million-raptors-center-trade-involving-maxi-kleber/e6a29b2407cdaaa7adba101c

Olynyk for Kleber


Ya, would rather move Olynyk to Dallas and since Denver likes Boucher a lot, send Chris there.
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Post#142 » by TheRaptor! » Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:18 pm

id save assets for booker when they blow it up

booker flagg barnes
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Post#143 » by ArthurVandelay » Tue Jan 14, 2025 9:23 pm

TheRaptor! wrote:id save assets for booker when they blow it up

booker flagg barnes


Pretty sure that is what the Rockets are waiting for which is why they gave up control of Brooklyn first this year to get PHX control in 25/27/29
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Post#144 » by Ell Curry » Tue Jan 14, 2025 10:53 pm

Psubs wrote:
Van_Trump wrote:https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nba/dallas-mavericks/news/mavericks-predicted-acquire-26-million-raptors-center-trade-involving-maxi-kleber/e6a29b2407cdaaa7adba101c

Olynyk for Kleber


Ya, would rather move Olynyk to Dallas and since Denver likes Boucher a lot, send Chris there.


I think we could squeeze this in under the tax:

Olynyk for Kleber
Boucher + #35 for Nnaji + Cancar + 2031 Denver 1st (top 10 protected, becomes 2nds otherwise)
Non-tax MLE

Poeltl-Kleber-Chomche
Barnes-MLE-Mogbo
Barrett-Agbaji-Battle
2025 1st-Dick-Walter
Quickley-Shead

We'd have about 16.5M to fit in our 1st rounder and add a minimum guy or 2, so even if we pick 1st, we could squeeze in under the tax.

Denver gets Boucher as a 3rd big who can play with Jokic or Gordon and they get 3 2nds from us they can package with Saric for some 5M type guy they like, maybe someone about to be an RFA or UFA whose team would prefer the picks, so Nick Richards, Jordan Hawkins, Amir Coffey, that type of dude. Boucher and that guy would give them actual 10 NBA players. And they can draft a 4 year college type with #35 this summer.

Jokic will be 35 or so in 2030-2031, still able to keep them out of the bottom 10 unless he's demanded out or retired to take over horse racing or whatever.

Not a home run, but we basically turn an early 2nd rounder into a tradeable first by eating Nnaji's deal. Will help in say 2027 when we're looking to trade for someone and get good.

Use the MLE on either a good player (Alexander-Walker) or if not, someone on a 1+1 with a team option and we have matching trade money for a move next year or the year after, or ideally someone we can trade for a similarly expiring deal and get a 2nd or 2 back in exchange.
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Post#145 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:19 pm

Rui + Gabe + JHS + 2nds for Brown + Boucher
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Post#146 » by TorontoBarneys » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:29 pm

Lowkey kinda nice I'm not the only one thinking about Booker in the near-future being a thing. Booker/Barnes is a great duo.
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Post#147 » by Spida888 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:39 pm

DreamTeam09 wrote:Rui + Gabe + JHS + 2nds for Brown + Boucher

We can't take on ~30M in salary next year because it'll put us into the tax unless we trade KO for expirings this year. The SRPs isn't enough incentive imo.
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Post#148 » by DreamTeam09 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:48 pm

Spida888 wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:Rui + Gabe + JHS + 2nds for Brown + Boucher

We can't take on ~30M in salary next year because it'll put us into the tax unless we trade KO for expirings this year. The SRPs isn't enough incentive imo.


I don't see that as a big obstacle. Someone would absorb KO with their MLE in the summer time, or even at this trade deadline
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Post#149 » by Nature » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:51 pm

TorontoBarneys wrote:Lowkey kinda nice I'm not the only one thinking about Booker in the near-future being a thing. Booker/Barnes is a great duo.


He strikes me as the type that refuses to dress for Toronto.
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Post#150 » by CazOnReal » Wed Jan 15, 2025 1:32 am

Mister Ze wrote:According to WT Zion wants to go to a big market like NY/LA. He's deliberately tanking his value but I think the upside is still there and his best days are ahead of him. I can see the Knicks pulling the trigger in the summer if they have a disappointing post-season run.

2025 summer:

NY Receives: Zion
Toronto Receives: OG
Pels Receive: Quickley + Boucher (S&T) + Future NYK Pick

I knew the trade proposals in here were going to get more incomprehensible the closer we got to the trade deadline but this is something else.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#151 » by Mr Swagtastic » Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:05 am

DreamTeam09 wrote:Rui + Gabe + JHS + 2nds for Brown + Boucher
What's this boards fascination with JHS? He's not worth taking on the steaming garbage pile known as Gabe Vincent. Rui is okay but we don't need him taking minutes from Ochai and Gradey and Mogbo and Battle. Your basically eating $30 million for seconds and what looks like a reach. Also the Lakers declined his option so he's a UFA at tye end of year meaning Toronto gets zero bird rights
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Post#152 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:36 am

Mr Swagtastic wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:Rui + Gabe + JHS + 2nds for Brown + Boucher
What's this boards fascination with JHS? He's not worth taking on the steaming garbage pile known as Gabe Vincent. Rui is okay but we don't need him taking minutes from Ochai and Gradey and Mogbo and Battle. Your basically eating $30 million for seconds and what looks like a reach. Also the Lakers declined his option so he's a UFA at tye end of year meaning Toronto gets zero bird rights

laker fanboy trade is all it is.
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Post#153 » by Johnston » Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:38 am

Mr Swagtastic wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:Rui + Gabe + JHS + 2nds for Brown + Boucher
What's this boards fascination with JHS? He's not worth taking on the steaming garbage pile known as Gabe Vincent. Rui is okay but we don't need him taking minutes from Ochai and Gradey and Mogbo and Battle. Your basically eating $30 million for seconds and what looks like a reach. Also the Lakers declined his option so he's a UFA at tye end of year meaning Toronto gets zero bird rights


The only person on the team I'd trade him for is Davion Mitchell. Gets us another floundering PG prospect to try and develop and give LA a more serviceable player for the post season.
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Post#154 » by MessiahUjiri » Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:57 am

AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
Mr Swagtastic wrote:
DreamTeam09 wrote:Rui + Gabe + JHS + 2nds for Brown + Boucher
What's this boards fascination with JHS? He's not worth taking on the steaming garbage pile known as Gabe Vincent. Rui is okay but we don't need him taking minutes from Ochai and Gradey and Mogbo and Battle. Your basically eating $30 million for seconds and what looks like a reach. Also the Lakers declined his option so he's a UFA at tye end of year meaning Toronto gets zero bird rights

laker fanboy trade is all it is.


JHS is expiring salary. No downside.

Rui is a SF/PF. That’s great. We desperately need a playable backup PF. Mogbo and Battle are not real NBA players compared to Rui.

Also, the LAC+LAL 2nds are probably both in the 40s, where Masai can afford to take home run swings. This draft is looking very deep. Look at the talent pool. Lots of big men slated in the 30s and 40s.

I think the trade is fair. Lakers probably also want Davion Mitchell and we ask for an additional 2nd…so 3 2nds. Get er done.
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Post#155 » by AkelaLoneWolf » Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:46 am

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AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
Mr Swagtastic wrote:What's this boards fascination with JHS? He's not worth taking on the steaming garbage pile known as Gabe Vincent. Rui is okay but we don't need him taking minutes from Ochai and Gradey and Mogbo and Battle. Your basically eating $30 million for seconds and what looks like a reach. Also the Lakers declined his option so he's a UFA at tye end of year meaning Toronto gets zero bird rights

laker fanboy trade is all it is.


JHS is expiring salary. No downside.

Rui is a SF/PF. That’s great. We desperately need a playable backup PF. Mogbo and Battle are not real NBA players compared to Rui.

Also, the LAC+LAL 2nds are probably both in the 40s, where Masai can afford to take home run swings. This draft is looking very deep. Look at the talent pool. Lots of big men slated in the 30s and 40s.

I think the trade is fair. Lakers probably also want Davion Mitchell and we ask for an additional 2nd…so 3 2nds. Get er done.

Rui and Gave both suck. If they couldn’t excel while playing alongside davis and LeBron why would they do well here. Basically it’s 30M of dead space if you trade for them. I’d rather let our expirings walk.
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Post#156 » by LoveMyRaps » Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:51 am

Nature wrote:
TorontoBarneys wrote:Lowkey kinda nice I'm not the only one thinking about Booker in the near-future being a thing. Booker/Barnes is a great duo.


He strikes me as the type that refuses to dress for Toronto.


He loves Toronto and is very tight with Drake.
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Post#157 » by Thaddy » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:26 am

Kleber for Olynyk is a good deal for us and them, but it needs their first rounder. That first rounder is a key piece because it could add another high potential piece to the Raptors. We could add someone like Thiero, Fleming, Karaban, or another wing that can address our defense and shooting concerns.
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Re: 2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0 

Post#158 » by Mr Swagtastic » Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:32 pm

MessiahUjiri wrote:
AkelaLoneWolf wrote:
Mr Swagtastic wrote:What's this boards fascination with JHS? He's not worth taking on the steaming garbage pile known as Gabe Vincent. Rui is okay but we don't need him taking minutes from Ochai and Gradey and Mogbo and Battle. Your basically eating $30 million for seconds and what looks like a reach. Also the Lakers declined his option so he's a UFA at tye end of year meaning Toronto gets zero bird rights

laker fanboy trade is all it is.


JHS is expiring salary. No downside.

Rui is a SF/PF. That’s great. We desperately need a playable backup PF. Mogbo and Battle are not real NBA players compared to Rui.

Also, the LAC+LAL 2nds are probably both in the 40s, where Masai can afford to take home run swings. This draft is looking very deep. Look at the talent pool. Lots of big men slated in the 30s and 40s.

I think the trade is fair. Lakers probably also want Davion Mitchell and we ask for an additional 2nd…so 3 2nds. Get er done.
You do realize your paying Gabe Vincent to be a gloirifed seat filler who gives you no value over Temple. If you want JHS wait until the offseason when you can get him for half the MLE. This Toronto team is awful now and it's too late to turn this season with Rui. It's best to continue the tank for Flagg, Bailey, Harper or Demin or Edgecombe. This team cannot afford to take on bad salary for reclamation projects like JHS
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Post#159 » by Psubs » Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:01 pm

Thaddy wrote:Kleber for Olynyk is a good deal for us and them, but it needs their first rounder. That first rounder is a key piece because it could add another high potential piece to the Raptors. We could add someone like Thiero, Fleming, Karaban, or another wing that can address our defense and shooting concerns.


Kleber and 1st pick for Olynyk and 2025 2nd pick (Por)

If too much then make another trade first to get a worse 2nd pick. :nod:
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Post#160 » by Thaddy » Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:03 pm

Psubs wrote:
Thaddy wrote:Kleber for Olynyk is a good deal for us and them, but it needs their first rounder. That first rounder is a key piece because it could add another high potential piece to the Raptors. We could add someone like Thiero, Fleming, Karaban, or another wing that can address our defense and shooting concerns.


Kleber and 1st pick for Olynyk and 2025 2nd pick (Por)

If too much then make another trade first to get a worse 2nd pick. :nod:

Quality is better than quantity. The first round pick in the 20ish range would be a lot better. I would try and get their 2027 pick instead. I could see that team unraveling pretty hard.

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