VJ Edgecombe

[Braggins]

His shooting mechanics look pretty good to me tbh. Is this a recent development, or has his shot always looked decent?

[SeattleJazzFan]

His shooting mechanics look pretty good to me tbh. Is this a recent development, or has his shot always looked decent?

i've felt like they are okay. not perfect by any means, but certainly not broken.

[vincecarter4pres]

Feels like we’ve been overthinking this kid a lot. If he was 6’5 with a plus wingspan he’d likely be talked about as the lock 3rd overall pick and in the mix for 2.

The size, or lack there of, is undoubtedly concerning, but his athleticism start to finish is top tier, has a great motor, good defender, overall good feel for the game, his handle is loose but functional and improvable, his shot mechanics/form, release and lift is just fine, and he makes good reads and doesn’t play selfishly.

I think it’s a smart money to bet on him anywhere after 3, he could be a lot like Donovan Mitchell and median is like younger Eric Gordon.

[HadAnEffectHere]

His handle is Bronny James tier.

[vincecarter4pres]

His handle is Bronny James tier.

Is it really that bad?

[HadAnEffectHere]

His handle is Bronny James tier.

Is it really that bad?

He can't dribble at full speed at all, he has to go at like 30% of his burst or else he loses control.

[FarBeyondDriven]

he had a rough start to the season shooting the ball. First 7 games he shot 27%. Last 6 (December and January) he's shooting 36%. It's probably better for his career that he falls to the late lottery and lands with a team that needs a role player that can contribute right away but also has upside to develop into more. If he was to be drafted by a terrible team he'll either be rushed or buried behind other prospects like so many of the 2023 and 2024 prospects are.

[EmpireFalls]

Amen Thompson’s success may work in his favour here.

[HadAnEffectHere]

Amen Thompson’s success may work in his favour here.

Amen is PF sized and has succeeded mostly as a PF.

VJ can't score at the rim while Amen shoots like 75% at the rim.

[clyde21]

Amen Thompson’s success may work in his favour here.

Amen has/had more playmaking juice but honestly I'm not gonna bet against VJ's combination of sick athleticism and motor and just enough ancillary skill to keep him productive. probably not top 5 or even 8 guy but after that i see no issues in making that bet.

[FarBeyondDriven]

Amen Thompson’s success may work in his favour here.

Amen is PF sized and has succeeded mostly as a PF.

VJ can't score at the rim while Amen shoots like 75% at the rim.

Amen didn't play college with packed lanes so we don't know how he would have scored at the rim. Amen's a potential lead guard with elite defense. Once VanVleet is gone I think we'll see him running the offense. Completely different player than VJ imo. Similar athleticism but he's 3-4 inches taller and much longer and his handle is so much better too.

[TheSuzerain]

I feel like he has a straighter path to being on the court in an elite playoff setting than everyone else in this draft save like 3 dudes.

Not a starring role but can fill that POA D/utility position that all the top teams have these days.

[Hal14]

Feels like we’ve been overthinking this kid a lot.

THere's no such thing is overthinking it with draft scouting. That's such a bad phrase. "Overthinking it"

Only time people say that phrase is when they're trying to push an agenda for a certain prospect or they're getting mad that others aren't as high on a prospect as they are.

It's not overthinking it. It's called being thorough...it's called using critical thinking and doing in depth analysis, so you don't draft the next Anthony Bennet, Romeo Langford, Josh Jackson or James Wiseman...and so instead, you can draft the next Derrick White, Jimmy Butler, Jalen Brunson or Nikola Jokic.

If he was 6’5 with a plus wingspan he’d likely be talked about as the lock 3rd overall pick and in the mix for 2.

He is 6'5" with a 6'6" wingspan

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He's not top 3 because his handles are weak for a perimeter player. The shooting is a question mark..he's got some of the worst touch in this class ..especially on shots inside the arc, something that has been a consistent issue, even going back to the pre-NCAA film..

He is raw on the offensive end, inconsistent on the offensive end..pretty much all his big games have come against weaker opponents..his games vs good teams like Gonzaga have been very hit or miss.

A lot of his highlight plays and production have come in the last 5 mins of games with baylor already leading by 25+ points.

And his defense and playmaking are overrated..good but not as good as some of the stats make them out to be.

Plus he's older than most of the other top prospects..some of them like Ace and Flagg he's over a year older than them.

Really the only skill/trait he has that we know for sure he can do really well is athleticism. And in the NBA that will be less of a differentiator since there will be lots of other guys with elite athleticism, and the overall athleticism in the league is much higher than it is in NCAA.

There's tons of guys with crazy athleticism but not good enough at the other stuff who struggle to make it (KJ Martin, Hamidou Diallo, Greg Brown, Josh Jackson, Kendall Brown, etc.)

I think it’s a smart money to bet on him anywhere after 3, he could be a lot like Donovan Mitchell and median is like younger Eric Gordon.

He's nothing like Donovan Mitchell, except for size and athleticism. Mitchell is like 50x more skilled with the ball in his hands..there's such a massive different in the way they play the game, their roles and skill sets that it's not even worth mentioning them in the same sentence.

[Hal14]

His handle is Bronny James tier.

Is it really that bad?

Yes

[RipCity71252]

Feels like we’ve been overthinking this kid a lot.

THere's no such thing is overthinking it with draft scouting. That's such a bad phrase. "Overthinking it"

Only time people say that phrase is when they're trying to push an agenda for a certain prospect or they're getting mad that others aren't as high on a prospect as they are.

It's not overthinking it. It's called being thorough...it's called using critical thinking and doing in depth analysis, so you don't draft the next Anthony Bennet, Romeo Langford, Josh Jackson or James Wiseman...and so instead, you can draft the next Derrick White, Jimmy Butler, Jalen Brunson or Nikola Jokic.

If he was 6’5 with a plus wingspan he’d likely be talked about as the lock 3rd overall pick and in the mix for 2.

He is 6'5" with a 6'6" wingspan

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He's not top 3 because his handles are weak for a perimeter player. The shooting is a question mark..he's got some of the worst touch in this class ..especially on shots inside the arc, something that has been a consistent issue, even going back to the pre-NCAA film..

He is raw on the offensive end, inconsistent on the offensive end..pretty much all his big games have come against weaker opponents..his games vs good teams like Gonzaga have been very hit or miss.

A lot of his highlight plays and production have come in the last 5 mins of games with baylor already leading by 25+ points.

And his defense and playmaking are overrated..good but not as good as some of the stats make them out to be.

Plus he's older than most of the other top prospects..some of them like Ace and Flagg he's over a year older than them.

Really the only skill/trait he has that we know for sure he can do really well is athleticism. And in the NBA that will be less of a differentiator since there will be lots of other guys with elite athleticism, and the overall athleticism in the league is much higher than it is in NCAA.

There's tons of guys with crazy athleticism but not good enough at the other stuff who struggle to make it (KJ Martin, Hamidou Diallo, Greg Brown, Josh Jackson, Kendall Brown, etc.)

I think it’s a smart money to bet on him anywhere after 3, he could be a lot like Donovan Mitchell and median is like younger Eric Gordon.

He's nothing like Donovan Mitchell, except for size and athleticism. Mitchell is like 50x more skilled with the ball in his hands..there's such a massive different in the way they play the game, their roles and skill sets that it's not even worth mentioning them in the same sentence.

Kasparas listed at 260 haha

[FarBeyondDriven]

Feels like we’ve been overthinking this kid a lot.

THere's no such thing is overthinking it with draft scouting. That's such a bad phrase. "Overthinking it"

Only time people say that phrase is when they're trying to push an agenda for a certain prospect or they're getting mad that others aren't as high on a prospect as they are.

It's not overthinking it. It's called being thorough...it's called using critical thinking and doing in depth analysis, so you don't draft the next Anthony Bennet, Romeo Langford, Josh Jackson or James Wiseman...and so instead, you can draft the next Derrick White, Jimmy Butler, Jalen Brunson or Nikola Jokic.

If he was 6’5 with a plus wingspan he’d likely be talked about as the lock 3rd overall pick and in the mix for 2.

He is 6'5" with a 6'6" wingspan

Read on Twitter

He's not top 3 because his handles are weak for a perimeter player. The shooting is a question mark..he's got some of the worst touch in this class ..especially on shots inside the arc, something that has been a consistent issue, even going back to the pre-NCAA film..

He is raw on the offensive end, inconsistent on the offensive end..pretty much all his big games have come against weaker opponents..his games vs good teams like Gonzaga have been very hit or miss.

A lot of his highlight plays and production have come in the last 5 mins of games with baylor already leading by 25+ points.

And his defense and playmaking are overrated..good but not as good as some of the stats make them out to be.

Plus he's older than most of the other top prospects..some of them like Ace and Flagg he's over a year older than them.

Really the only skill/trait he has that we know for sure he can do really well is athleticism. And in the NBA that will be less of a differentiator since there will be lots of other guys with elite athleticism, and the overall athleticism in the league is much higher than it is in NCAA.

There's tons of guys with crazy athleticism but not good enough at the other stuff who struggle to make it (KJ Martin, Hamidou Diallo, Greg Brown, Josh Jackson, Kendall Brown, etc.)

I think it’s a smart money to bet on him anywhere after 3, he could be a lot like Donovan Mitchell and median is like younger Eric Gordon.

He's nothing like Donovan Mitchell, except for size and athleticism. Mitchell is like 50x more skilled with the ball in his hands..there's such a massive different in the way they play the game, their roles and skill sets that it's not even worth mentioning them in the same sentence.

in sneakers and with the benefit of a hairstyle that likely adds a little as well. He's basically 6'3"

[tontoz]

I watched him against AZ and lost interest quickly. Great athlete but his ball skills are probably the worst among anyone rated highly in the mocks.

[EvanZ]

I watched him against AZ and lost interest quickly. Great athlete but his ball skills are probably the worst among anyone rated highly in the mocks.

Maybe a more athletic Okogie

[Braggins]

His outside shot looks more projectable to me than Okogies. Honestly, a more athletic Okogie that can shoot 3s at least decent is kind of a nice player.

[Frichuela]

Okogie would not put these numbers nor perform how VJ did in the Olympic qualifying tournament last summer..worthy of the 5 pick IMO:

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