2024-25 NBA Rookie Discussion Thread (Pt. 3)

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Which 2 rookies are leading the ROY race?

Alexandre Sarr
24
10%
Zaccharie Risacher
22
9%
Zach Edey
16
7%
Yves Missi
8
3%
Jaylen Wells
25
11%
Stephon Castle
66
28%
Dalton Knecht
5
2%
Kel'el Ware
40
17%
Tristan Da Silva
10
4%
Other: McCain, Dunn, Buzelis, Clingan, Carrington, Dillingham, George, Holland, Filipowski, Salaün, Williams, Mitchell, Scheierman, etc. (poll is limited to 10 options)
16
7%
 
Total votes: 232

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Post#41 » by brackdan70 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:23 pm

For ROY you probably have to go with a guy who has a larger role, starts most of the time or plays big minutes. Of these guys I think this is my top 5
Wells
Risacher
Castle
Missi
Sarr

Edey doesn’t have quite as big a role and has missed a bunch of time.
I like Ware but he isn’t getting big minutes. Limited role.
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Post#42 » by jasonxxx102 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 1:46 pm

I think Ware could have been in the race if he played consistently to start the season. I think no matter what he does at this point he's too far behind.

Wells is slowing down, Risacher is doing nothing, Castle is inconsistent, Missi is not an ROY type player, so that really just leaves Sarr who has played much better lately.
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Post#43 » by 49erhokie827 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 3:37 pm

Ryan Dunn will win ROY.
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Post#44 » by brackdan70 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 5:07 pm

49erhokie827 wrote:Ryan Dunn will win ROY.

He doesn’t play enough.
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Post#45 » by 49erhokie827 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 5:25 pm

brackdan70 wrote:
49erhokie827 wrote:Ryan Dunn will win ROY.

He doesn’t play enough.


he does now. just needs to make an impression on the media in the next 42 games. He ain't losing his starting spot thats for sure.
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Post#46 » by jasonxxx102 » Tue Jan 14, 2025 5:55 pm

49erhokie827 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:
49erhokie827 wrote:Ryan Dunn will win ROY.

He doesn’t play enough.


he does now. just needs to make an impression on the media in the next 42 games. He ain't losing his starting spot thats for sure.


He's averaging 7pts and 3reb a game with nothing else. His per36 numbers are like 12/6.

The statistical jump he would need to be considered at this point is massive. He's way too far back at this point.

If you think he's certain to be in the race you can get his ROY at 80:1 right now.
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Post#47 » by FarBeyondDriven » Tue Jan 14, 2025 11:49 pm

jasonxxx102 wrote:
49erhokie827 wrote:
brackdan70 wrote:He doesn’t play enough.


he does now. just needs to make an impression on the media in the next 42 games. He ain't losing his starting spot thats for sure.


He's averaging 7pts and 3reb a game with nothing else. His per36 numbers are like 12/6.

The statistical jump he would need to be considered at this point is massive. He's way too far back at this point.

If you think he's certain to be in the race you can get his ROY at 80:1 right now.


So is this just your schtick now? Every time any random rookie is discussed positively you're gonna go into every 2024 draft thread and post stuff like this?

am I doing this right or does it sound as dumb as when you said it?
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Post#48 » by jasonxxx102 » Wed Jan 15, 2025 12:07 pm

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jasonxxx102 wrote:
49erhokie827 wrote:
he does now. just needs to make an impression on the media in the next 42 games. He ain't losing his starting spot thats for sure.


He's averaging 7pts and 3reb a game with nothing else. His per36 numbers are like 12/6.

The statistical jump he would need to be considered at this point is massive. He's way too far back at this point.

If you think he's certain to be in the race you can get his ROY at 80:1 right now.


So is this just your schtick now? Every time any random rookie is discussed positively you're gonna go into every 2024 draft thread and post stuff like this?

am I doing this right or does it sound as dumb as when you said it?


Still waiting on that draft class ranking I asked you for 5x now :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#49 » by foreigngrammar » Wed Jan 15, 2025 2:09 pm

jasonxxx102 wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:
He's averaging 7pts and 3reb a game with nothing else. His per36 numbers are like 12/6.

The statistical jump he would need to be considered at this point is massive. He's way too far back at this point.

If you think he's certain to be in the race you can get his ROY at 80:1 right now.


So is this just your schtick now? Every time any random rookie is discussed positively you're gonna go into every 2024 draft thread and post stuff like this?

am I doing this right or does it sound as dumb as when you said it?


Still waiting on that draft class ranking I asked you for 5x now :lol: :lol: :lol:



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Post#50 » by srhcan » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:15 pm

when was the last time a draft class was as bad as this one?
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Post#51 » by Ruma85 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:34 pm

srhcan wrote:when was the last time a draft class was as bad as this one?


I wouldn't say it's bad, though it's not as promising as the others, but there is a ton of potential here, but if I have to guess the 2000 draft class could be worse then this one.
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Post#52 » by MrBigShot » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:54 am

Jayson Tatum is a big name to watch out for in the future. At 19 years old he's already an efficient 3 level scorer that plays both ends.
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Post#53 » by rate_ » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:09 am

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Might be the best rookie in this draft class.


Kel'el is the most talented big in this class by a long shot.

The issue I have with him is that I'm not really sure the BBIQ upside is there. I don't really see a lot of high level basketball instincts. He's incredibly athletic, has a solid offensive and defensive game,but the "extra" stuff that makes great players I haven't seen yet.

I hope he can develop some good on and off court habits being in Miami so he can maximize that talent.

Disagree. He showed alot of promise yesterday against the Lakers, especially in his short stint when defending AD who is one of the best offensive bigs in the league.

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Post#54 » by jasonxxx102 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:04 pm

rate_ wrote:
jasonxxx102 wrote:
rate_ wrote:Image

Might be the best rookie in this draft class.


Kel'el is the most talented big in this class by a long shot.

The issue I have with him is that I'm not really sure the BBIQ upside is there. I don't really see a lot of high level basketball instincts. He's incredibly athletic, has a solid offensive and defensive game,but the "extra" stuff that makes great players I haven't seen yet.

I hope he can develop some good on and off court habits being in Miami so he can maximize that talent.

Disagree. He showed alot of promise yesterday against the Lakers, especially in his short stint when defending AD who is one of the best offensive bigs in the league.

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He is the best player in the draft, bar none.


Yea I'm not gonna argue haha I drafted him in multiple dynasty leagues because he was the only interesting player from this draft imo

He's definitely the best big man, not sure if I'd say the best overall player right now. Haven't seen enough from him yet.
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Post#55 » by Mr Puddles » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:41 pm

Ryan Dunn since being promoted to starter, in 8 games:

11.6 ppg 56% / 40% 3pg (3.5 attempts), 5.3 rebounds in 25 min per game.

While taking on the toughest defensive assignment every night.
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Post#56 » by wemby » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:02 pm

Mr Puddles wrote:Ryan Dunn since being promoted to starter, in 8 games:

11.6 ppg 56% / 40% 3pg (3.5 attempts), 5.3 rebounds in 25 min per game.

While taking on the toughest defensive assignment every night.

Dunn is wildly inconsistent from 3, for instance he has a better 3p% compared to Castle, but the latter's misses are much closer and his ft% is a lot better so I buy his long term shooting upside more than Dunn's.
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Post#57 » by Mr Puddles » Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:55 pm

wemby wrote:
Mr Puddles wrote:Ryan Dunn since being promoted to starter, in 8 games:

11.6 ppg 56% / 40% 3pg (3.5 attempts), 5.3 rebounds in 25 min per game.

While taking on the toughest defensive assignment every night.

Dunn is wildly inconsistent from 3, for instance he has a better 3p% compared to Castle, but the latter's misses are much closer and his ft% is a lot better so I buy his long term shooting upside more than Dunn's.


Dunn came in the league expected to be an MKG level shooter. He's wild exceeding expectations already.

Also, he's taken a total 19 free throws so far this season, hardly enough to use that as gauge for his shooting upside. I'll use his 132 three point attempts instead.
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Post#58 » by wemby » Sun Jan 19, 2025 2:45 am

Mr Puddles wrote:
wemby wrote:
Mr Puddles wrote:Ryan Dunn since being promoted to starter, in 8 games:

11.6 ppg 56% / 40% 3pg (3.5 attempts), 5.3 rebounds in 25 min per game.

While taking on the toughest defensive assignment every night.

Dunn is wildly inconsistent from 3, for instance he has a better 3p% compared to Castle, but the latter's misses are much closer and his ft% is a lot better so I buy his long term shooting upside more than Dunn's.


Dunn came in the league expected to be an MKG level shooter. He's wild exceeding expectations already.

Also, he's taken a total 19 free throws so far this season, hardly enough to use that as gauge for his shooting upside. I'll use his 132 three point attempts instead.

Yes he's exceeding expectations by shooting in the low 30s, but it's one thing to look at the boxscores and another to watch live his HORRENDOUS misses and abominable FTs and you can't chalk that up to a small sample since the trend goes back years. Given that I'm inclined to believe his hot streak has a strong luck component and I don't trust him sustaining it long term. Maybe I'm wrong, but it's either that or he's in a planet of his own.
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Post#59 » by RRR3 » Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:14 pm

Kel'El Ware is looking like a massive steal.
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Post#60 » by rate_ » Sun Jan 19, 2025 10:24 pm

I said it once and I'll say it again: Kel'el Ware is the best player in this draft. Went 25/8/2/2 & +27 w/ a W against Wemby who had one of his worse games of the season. i think he can steal ROY even with the limited minutes.

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