Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[MasterGMer]

If Zion Williamson is available, would you entertain an offer for him without giving up our core?

[p0peye]

If Zion Williamson is available, would you entertain an offer for him without giving up our core?

Definitively not, but I would jump on opportunity to acquire Ant if he gets frustrated in Minesota.

[RichCollab]

Cole is also part of our soul.

I guess this is what we resort to when "It's really kind of his rookie year" and "organic development" finally times out.

It means we move him during the offseason to avoid disrupting team chemistry.

Sexton and or Simons don’t look much like an upgrade any longer. I have been watching them both a lot lately. Teams that play vs Utah and Blazers aren’t even trying their hardest give both those teams are tanking.

Just doesn’t make sense to me any longer after watching Sexton and Simons. There is a reason the are readily available.

[MasterGMer]

If Zion Williamson is available, would you entertain an offer for him without giving up our core?

Definitively not, but I would jump on opportunity to acquire Ant if he gets frustrated in Minesota.

There were even reports that Pelicans were so fed up with Zion's unavailability that they might waive him. Idk. Could be a buy low and sell high situation. Just my personal opinion.

[thelead]

I wonder if we can snag Grayson Allen with PHX faltering while being a second apron team. He is shooting 41% from 3 for the season and his career. And his contract is very reasonable.

[RookieStar]

I wonder if we can snag Grayson Allen with PHX faltering while being a second apron team. He is shooting 41% from 3 for the season and his career. And his contract is very reasonable.

And who do we give up?

Dont get me wrong, i was probably the GA bandwagon leader last year buttttt.... PHO is a win now mode so they will probably wont settle for just draft picks

[Skybox]

I wonder if we can snag Grayson Allen with PHX faltering while being a second apron team. He is shooting 41% from 3 for the season and his career. And his contract is very reasonable.

And who do we give up?

Dont get me wrong, i was probably the GA bandwagon leader last year buttttt.... PHO is a win now mode so they will probably wont settle for just draft picks

It would have to be KCP, given contracts & position (can’t pay them both to be redundant) …and no chance ORL sacrifices KCP’s defense for a similar offensive player. Our shooting is bad, but we added shooters who just aren’t hitting…I don’t think cycling in more 3pt specialists for our present 3 pt specialists is the answer…I can’t explain it, but I’d prefer to address it with a playmaker who can also shoot…maybe he’d help get the others some easy buckets to oil the machine. It’s kind of fundamental to cut and get some layups and FTs to break the ice.

I can’t just assume KCP forgot how to shoot…puzzling

[three3d]

Cole is also part of our soul.

I guess this is what we resort to when "It's really kind of his rookie year" and "organic development" finally times out.

It means we move him during the offseason to avoid disrupting team chemistry.

Sexton and or Simons don’t look much like an upgrade any longer. I have been watching them both a lot lately. Teams that play vs Utah and Blazers aren’t even trying their hardest give both those teams are tanking.

Just doesn’t make sense to me any longer after watching Sexton and Simons. There is a reason the are readily available.

How can you say Simons or Sexton don’t look like much of an upgrade and acknowledge theirs respective teams are tanking. As a player it would have to be frustrating knowing your team is clearly tanking to potentially get a higher draft pick, a higher draft pick by the way which could be replacing you.

[eyriq]

Anyone care to look at the stats?

Cole drtg: 107.8

NBA average drtg: 114.2

The lower the drtg the better

https://www.lastnightinbasketball.com/p/adjusted-efficiency

I wonder what else someone blindly argues on here.

Cole is turning around his season and having a positive impact for us. I think it's even debatable if he's still better than AB (I'd lean towards him being better by a smidge).

It's going to be interesting to see what we do with him. I'm not sure there is a long-term fit because he's a score-first guard that lacks the physical tools to defend and is a below average shooter and playmaker.

[cedric76]

Anyone care to look at the stats?

Cole drtg: 107.8

NBA average drtg: 114.2

The lower the drtg the better

https://www.lastnightinbasketball.com/p/adjusted-efficiency

I wonder what else someone blindly argues on here.

Cole is turning around his season and having a positive impact for us. I think it's even debatable if he's still better than AB (I'd lean towards him being better by a smidge).

It's going to be interesting to see what we do with him. I'm not sure there is a long-term fit because he's a score-first guard that lacks the physical tools to defend and is a below average shooter and playmaker.

Cole is so good on D that opposing team are hunting him on every switches lol but if stats says he is better than AB let ignore the eye test

[drsd]

If Zion Williamson is available, would you entertain an offer for him without giving up our core?

To play Center? I'd rather have Bitadze.

[eyriq]

Anyone care to look at the stats?

Cole drtg: 107.8

NBA average drtg: 114.2

The lower the drtg the better

https://www.lastnightinbasketball.com/p/adjusted-efficiency

I wonder what else someone blindly argues on here.

Cole is turning around his season and having a positive impact for us. I think it's even debatable if he's still better than AB (I'd lean towards him being better by a smidge).

It's going to be interesting to see what we do with him. I'm not sure there is a long-term fit because he's a score-first guard that lacks the physical tools to defend and is a below average shooter and playmaker.

Cole is so good on D that opposing team are hunting him on every switches lol but if stats says he is better than AB let ignore the eye test

I was speaking to his overall play, AB is clearly better defensively

[cedric76]

Cole is turning around his season and having a positive impact for us. I think it's even debatable if he's still better than AB (I'd lean towards him being better by a smidge).

It's going to be interesting to see what we do with him. I'm not sure there is a long-term fit because he's a score-first guard that lacks the physical tools to defend and is a below average shooter and playmaker.

Cole is so good on D that opposing team are hunting him on every switches lol but if stats says he is better than AB let ignore the eye test

I was speaking to his overall play, AB is clearly better defensively

Sorry, I was commenting on the message you quoted

[RichCollab]

Anyone care to look at the stats?

Cole drtg: 107.8

NBA average drtg: 114.2

The lower the drtg the better

https://www.lastnightinbasketball.com/p/adjusted-efficiency

I wonder what else someone blindly argues on here.

Cole is turning around his season and having a positive impact for us. I think it's even debatable if he's still better than AB (I'd lean towards him being better by a smidge).

It's going to be interesting to see what we do with him. I'm not sure there is a long-term fit because he's a score-first guard that lacks the physical tools to defend and is a below average shooter and playmaker.

Cole is so good on D that opposing team are hunting him on every switches lol but if stats says he is better than AB let ignore the eye test

Teams hunt Caleb. I actually haven’t seen Cole targeted every time like Caleb is.

[The-Stallion70]

Anyone care to look at the stats?

Cole drtg: 107.8

NBA average drtg: 114.2

The lower the drtg the better

https://www.lastnightinbasketball.com/p/adjusted-efficiency

I wonder what else someone blindly argues on here.

Cole is turning around his season and having a positive impact for us. I think it's even debatable if he's still better than AB (I'd lean towards him being better by a smidge).

It's going to be interesting to see what we do with him. I'm not sure there is a long-term fit because he's a score-first guard that lacks the physical tools to defend and is a below average shooter and playmaker.

Cole is so good on D that opposing team are hunting him on every switches lol but if stats says he is better than AB let ignore the eye test

Lol So what youre saying that offenses don't hunt Sexton? How many Jazz games have you watched?

[Skybox]

silly to contend that there's no place on a good team for guys that aren't known to be exceptional defenders...that one guy can sink a team's identity by being "hunted"? Look around the league or even our own roster.

[RichCollab]

silly to contend that there's no place on a good team for guys that aren't known to be exceptional defenders...that one guy can sink a team's identity by being "hunted"? Look around the league or even our own roster.

I agree but our identity and everything we do starts with defense.

Paolo is arguably a top 10 offensive player or soon will be and his defensive effort and knowledge has increased greatly.

There is no excuse to not show effort or buy into our identity if you are going to play here.

[eyriq]

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[OnlyFranz22]

Sexton for Jazz had a blowup on the court with the young Collier for the Jazz….

Now he is magically out for tonight’s game. He may be had for cheap.

[eyriq]

Sexton for Jazz had a blowup on the court with the young Collier for the Jazz….

Now he is magically out for tonight’s game. He may be had for cheap.

It's was embarrassing behavior from him