Official: Richards to Phoenix

WhatsaTDot · Post #1 » by **WhatsaTDot** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:47 pm

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Post #2 » by **gswhoops** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:48 pm

Seems reasonable enough

HadAnEffectHere · Post #3 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:48 pm

Zero second round picks left.

But he brings the Suns' total of NBA centers to 1 even if barely.

HornetJail · Post #4 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:48 pm

LETS GOOOOOOO

I'll give Jeff Peterson this... he is a damn master at turning complete trash into 2nd round picks

K_chile22 · Post #5 » by **K_chile22** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:51 pm

HadAnEffectHere wrote:Zero second round picks left.

But he brings the Suns' total of NBA centers to 1 even if barely.

I don't think he's any better than the other two guys PHX has. He can jump tho I suppose

Post #6 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:51 pm

2 2nds. So not a first. So far that's every player who has been traded. Will this have any impact on threads moving forward? Nope, will not.

SA37 · Post #7 » by **SA37** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:51 pm

I'm not sure what this trade accomplished unless there is a deal in the works to move Nurkic.

HadAnEffectHere · Post #8 » by **HadAnEffectHere** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:53 pm

SA37 wrote:I'm not sure what this trade accomplished unless there is a deal in the works to move Nurkic.

They need to try literally everything to try to fix their center position because they're 12th in the West because Nurkic and Plumlee are so bad.

cucad8 · Post #9 » by **cucad8** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:53 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:2 2nds. So not a first. So far that's every player who has been traded. Will this have any impact on threads moving forward? Nope, will not.

I could be wrong, but don't believe i saw anyone thinking Richards was worth a 1st here.

balsamic_ducks · Post #10 » by **balsamic_ducks** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:54 pm

What 2nd is PHX getting back? Is it a fake top 55 protected 2nd?

Post #11 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 9:56 pm

cucad8 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:2 2nds. So not a first. So far that's every player who has been traded. Will this have any impact on threads moving forward? Nope, will not.

I could be wrong, but don't believe i saw anyone thinking Richards was worth a 1st here.

I definitely saw posts saying a deal would have to be Richards/2nd for a first. And that he wouldn't be traded for just 2nds. Not the consensus among the fanbase the way the Nets guys were, but it definitely came up.

The point is guys like this are never going for firsts, even if they play for our favorite team, no matter how we try to dress it up.

Post #12 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:00 pm

Flip Okogie for another 2nd from somebody.

JRoy · Post #13 » by **JRoy** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:01 pm

Good to see PHX do something, not sure this was the right move.

babyjax13 · Post #14 » by **babyjax13** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:02 pm

Rather than trade for Butler, I wonder if they can now find a deal to move Nurkic + their 2031 1st for a good wing defender.

Post #15 » by **Texas Chuck** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:04 pm

babyjax13 wrote:Rather than trade for Butler, I wonder if they can now find a deal to move Nurkic + their 2031 1st for a good wing defender.

There is still value to be had in a deal that has Nurkic used to salary match a player and Allen used to match another. Allen and the first is solid value and you could get 2 useful players back--ideally as you state a wing defender but they still need another big as well.

Post #16 » by **gswhoops** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:05 pm

Texas Chuck wrote:
cucad8 wrote:
Texas Chuck wrote:2 2nds. So not a first. So far that's every player who has been traded. Will this have any impact on threads moving forward? Nope, will not.

I could be wrong, but don't believe i saw anyone thinking Richards was worth a 1st here.

I definitely saw posts saying a deal would have to be Richards/2nd for a first. And that he wouldn't be traded for just 2nds. Not the consensus among the fanbase the way the Nets guys were, but it definitely came up.

The point is guys like this are never going for firsts, even if they play for our favorite team, no matter how we try to dress it up.

My rule of thumb here is that if a guy isn't a starter on a decent team, he's not returning a 1st in a trade. It's not always right but it's right more often than it's wrong.

SlimShady83 · Post #17 » by **SlimShady83** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:05 pm

I suspected at least two SRPs for Richards Congrats Suns

HornetJail · Post #18 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:05 pm

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this is legitimately great stuff. i'm not convinced Okogie is any worse than our trio of Green/Martin/Jeffries, we didn't even give up one of our good 2nds, and we get distant 2nds for someone who has been downright liability this season and standing in front of Diabate who deserves all the minutes he can get.

Let Jeff Peterson cook.

Richards is a much better center than Plumlee, but it's telling that every year we pick up a D-League center and have to force them into minutes, they aren't discernibly worse than Richards

HornetJail · Post #19 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:06 pm

SlimShady83 wrote:I suspected at least two SRPs for Richards, but 3 damn. Congrats toSuns nice pickup

it's basically 2, we're swapping a 2025 DEN 2nd for a 2026 DEN 2nd, and then get the 2 2031s.

HornetJail · Post #20 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Jan 15, 2025 10:07 pm

SA37 wrote:I'm not sure what this trade accomplished unless there is a deal in the works to move Nurkic.

I think it's directly related to the atrocities Mark Williams did to Mason Plumlee in our matchup the other night. 18/13 in one half before Mark ran out of steam