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JustBuzzin wrote:yosemiteben wrote:SWedd523 wrote:Like I do not give half a **** about picks 50 and later.
Well I have good news for you - we traded a pick that almost certainly would be there for two from likely rebuilding teams.
2nd Rd picks from rebuilding teams are supposed to mean something?
HornetJail wrote:my main point is that I would have valued Richards at a single pick in the 35-45 range. The hope is we got two of them but have to wait a while to get them. Hard not to be happy with that.
yosemiteben wrote:JustBuzzin wrote:yosemiteben wrote:Well I have good news for you - we traded a pick that almost certainly would be there for two from likely rebuilding teams.
2nd Rd picks from rebuilding teams are supposed to mean something?
Correct
Bassman wrote:Good grief…so much rationalization about how this was a good trade. No wonder this team forever resides in the armpit of the NBA.
yosemiteben wrote:Bassman wrote:Good grief…so much rationalization about how this was a good trade. No wonder this team forever resides in the armpit of the NBA.
Yeah if we criticized everything the team does no matter what we'd be a much better team.
SWedd523 wrote:yosemiteben wrote:Bassman wrote:Good grief…so much rationalization about how this was a good trade. No wonder this team forever resides in the armpit of the NBA.
Yeah if we criticized everything the team does no matter what we'd be a much better team.
Yeah if the team did less **** worth criticizing then there'd probably be less criticism.
They've done absolutely nothing worth being awarded the benefit of the doubt.
It's like being given a **** sandwich for lunch everyday. you can't expect everyone to sit there and eat it with a smile on their face.
SWedd523 wrote:Yeah I don't agree with that at all.
We aren't talking about the Hornets here. Teams are generally able to go from good team to good team within a 7 year span, especially when they flip stars for picks for stars over and over again.
Flip Durant and Beal for picks within the next year or so and they're suddenly able to turn those picks into a star to play next to Booker or a guy to sign in FA.
The fact that we're trying to call it a good trade by rationalizing second round picks 6 years from now is a fun thought exercise though lol
Bassman wrote:Good grief…so much rationalization about how this was a good trade. No wonder this team forever resides in the armpit of the NBA.
Maybe some of y’all are not as old as I am…haven’t been here since before the actual awarding of the franchise. Can’t believe I ever said an unkind word about the lesser trades made during the Bass era. Geez, the worst of those would make people SWOON and have a case of VAPORS with excitement if done today.
If Peterson was determined to vanquish Nick, and THIS is the best he could do….well…it’s pathetic. If there are two more moves afterward that are tied in that become a TRUELY good trade, I will perhaps alter my take.
luciano-davidwesley wrote:Bassman wrote:Good grief…so much rationalization about how this was a good trade. No wonder this team forever resides in the armpit of the NBA.
Maybe some of y’all are not as old as I am…haven’t been here since before the actual awarding of the franchise. Can’t believe I ever said an unkind word about the lesser trades made during the Bass era. Geez, the worst of those would make people SWOON and have a case of VAPORS with excitement if done today.
If Peterson was determined to vanquish Nick, and THIS is the best he could do….well…it’s pathetic. If there are two more moves afterward that are tied in that become a TRUELY good trade, I will perhaps alter my take.
Look I'm as big of a Bob Bass (RIP) fan as anyone here but he did trade Kobe for Divac FFS. You really think that trade is better than this one?
Bontemps: It's interesting to look at the two teams that made this deal Wednesday, because while the Suns have churned through one asset after another across the two years Ishbia has owned the team, it has been the opposite in Charlotte.
Rick Schnall and Gabe Plotkin acquired control of the team from Michael Jordan in the summer of 2023, about six months after Ishbia bought the Suns. Over the past 18 months, the Hornets have picked up first-round picks by trading P.J. Washington and Terry Rozier, and added eight total second-rounders in other deals.
The Hornets are still in the nascent stages of building a contending team. But between these kinds of moves, plus the hiring of Jeff Peterson to run the front office and Charles Lee as coach, there is a promising long-term vision in place in Charlotte that should pay off down the road.
Snidely FC wrote:Bontemps: It's interesting to look at the two teams that made this deal Wednesday, because while the Suns have churned through one asset after another across the two years Ishbia has owned the team, it has been the opposite in Charlotte.
Rick Schnall and Gabe Plotkin acquired control of the team from Michael Jordan in the summer of 2023, about six months after Ishbia bought the Suns. Over the past 18 months, the Hornets have picked up first-round picks by trading P.J. Washington and Terry Rozier, and added eight total second-rounders in other deals.
The Hornets are still in the nascent stages of building a contending team. But between these kinds of moves, plus the hiring of Jeff Peterson to run the front office and Charles Lee as coach, there is a promising long-term vision in place in Charlotte that should pay off down the road.
Walt Cronkite wrote:Snidely FC wrote:Bontemps: It's interesting to look at the two teams that made this deal Wednesday, because while the Suns have churned through one asset after another across the two years Ishbia has owned the team, it has been the opposite in Charlotte.
Rick Schnall and Gabe Plotkin acquired control of the team from Michael Jordan in the summer of 2023, about six months after Ishbia bought the Suns. Over the past 18 months, the Hornets have picked up first-round picks by trading P.J. Washington and Terry Rozier, and added eight total second-rounders in other deals.
The Hornets are still in the nascent stages of building a contending team. But between these kinds of moves, plus the hiring of Jeff Peterson to run the front office and Charles Lee as coach, there is a promising long-term vision in place in Charlotte that should pay off down the road.
I was told that Phoenix ownership included a basketball genius, while Charlotte is owned by idiot carpetbaggers who are responsible for the past 20 years of failure. How could this possibly be accurate? KembaWalker, sort it out.