Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Trade Deadline 2/6/25 - 2:00 p.m. CDT

[RiotPunch]

If we give up a first - literally the next pick of ours that we actually own, six years from now - for a 35 year old we better **** win a championship.

Jon's legacy will be similar to Ted Stepien's once the NBA enacts the Horst Act, restricting pick swapping.

[Prez]

Dude please no, just find a way to turn Bobby into a semi athletic defensive big. If Jimmy can't be had without giving up our '31 1st, naaaah

[raferfenix]

This team somehow getting even older scares me.

I’ve been going back and forth on Butler. In theory if he comes in with the right attitude he’s a perfect fit we’d be happy to give the 2 year extension to. But it also has the smell of the Nets trading for old man KG.

There’s real basketball risk even if Jimmy wouldn’t end up setting this franchise on fire like all his other stops.

[Ron Swanson]

I think we will see this structure of a Butler deal.

Miami sends Butler to Milwaukee, Lakers 2026 2nd and Heat 2031 2nd to Pistons.

Bucks send Middleton, Portis, Bucks 2031 1st to Heat, Pat to Pistons

Follow-up moves of convert Rollins and Robbins to regular NBA contracts. Then sign two new two-way guys

Absolutely to Rollins but hard pass on giving Liam Robbins an NBA roster spot. Keep it open for a buyout big,

[raferfenix]

Jimmy works for me since he can be effective without scoring the ball, all these other max guys are just no D need to pound the ball to be effective guys which should be an easy pass for this team. We're beyond the point of diminishing returns when it comes to scorers, we need guys who can defend and do the dirty glue stuff.

If Butler were to commit to being a superstar version of PJ Tucker this team could run roughshod over the league.

That’s even aside from how playoffs before last he looked like MJ torching Jrue Holiday.

Going to war with Pat Riley isn’t a good sign on the attitude front though….And I just don’t know if Jimmy is humble enough to be a souped up PJ after being the the man for most of his career.

Or maybe we just put the ball in Jimmy’s hands (sorry Dame) and a Jrue Holiday who won’t shoot 5 for 20 that often is the better comparison for what we’d be hoping for.

[-Jragon-]

Jimmy works for me since he can be effective without scoring the ball, all these other max guys are just no D need to pound the ball to be effective guys which should be an easy pass for this team. We're beyond the point of diminishing returns when it comes to scorers, we need guys who can defend and do the dirty glue stuff.

If Butler were to commit to being a superstar version of PJ Tucker this team could run roughshod over the league.

That’s even aside from how playoffs before last he looked like MJ torching Jrue Holiday.

Going to war with Pat Riley isn’t a good sign on the attitude front though….And I just don’t know if Jimmy is humble enough to be a souped up PJ after being the the man for most of his career.

Or maybe we just put the ball in Jimmy’s hands (sorry Dame) and a Jrue Holiday who won’t shoot 5 for 20 that often is the better comparison for what we’d be hoping for.

Yeah that's the thing about Butler.. he does a lot of things we really need. He can handle the ball, blanket guys on D, facilitate/pass, hit big shots and draw fouls. There are going to be games where we feel like we have 3 Giannis's... a 6'1 one, a 6'7 one and a 7 foot one. That's 3 monsters.. the East will be fcked.. Boston will probably make a desperation move trade and F up their chemistry to redeem themselves. The possible reward/ceiling is too good to pass up... plus we de-Bud the team to boot and start playing smart, efficient ball along with straight up D.

[RiotPunch]

IF we are trading Khris and Bobby for Jimmy, Horst has to try to finesse a 1st from another team.

MKE: Butler, Burks
MIA: Hardaway, Tucker, Beasley, Beauchamp, LAC '31 1st (lottery protected), TOR '25 2nd
LAC: Portis
DET: Middleton, Connaughton

Heat clear $14.4M in immediate salary, $36.4M in expiring salary, and add a protected 1st for a 35 year old and disgruntled Jimmy.

Bucks go all-in on Giannis/Dame/Jimmy and hold onto their lone tradeable 1st.

Clippers bolster the frontcourt at the expense of a future protected 1st.

Pistons bring Khris back to where it all started to push for the play-in.

[aboveAverage]

Khris and Bobby plus our first is just way too much to give up for Jimmy. Khris is still our best shot creator and playmaker when healthy. Bobby is our only playable bench big. We’d be depleted. It’s a huge risk.

[pifhluk23]

Remember Giannis didn't want to trade Khris for Jimmy 6 years ago, has anything changed? Because if he says no then it's not happening. Khris/Giannis have great on court chemistry so I could see him saying No again.

[midranger]

Let Khris get back to being a 15/5/6 on efficiency guy. Let the chemistry develop a bit more.

Jimmy Butler is a powder keg who can explode all over another team for a series or two, but more often than not explodes in his own lockeroom. Not a great risk to take, imo.

[ShootingtheJ]

Khris and Bobby plus our first is just way too much to give up for Jimmy. Khris is still our best shot creator and playmaker when healthy. Bobby is our only playable bench big. We’d be depleted. It’s a huge risk.

Agree. With how many games Giannis, Dame, and Jimmy usually miss, we'd struggle to make the playoffs. We should be trying to get Prince out of the rotation, instead this pushes him to 32 minutes a night. We also now have no alternative to Brook on the nights he's unplayable. This could be a disaster.

[MickeyDavis]

Teams that have won a championship with Butler being a key piece - 0

Teams where Butler has caused drama and headaches - 4

[ShootingtheJ]

The Bucks need to get Kelel Ware in any Jimmy trade. I'm not ready for 18 minutes a night from Liam Robbins.

[blazza18]

Teams that have won a championship with Butler being a key piece - 0

Teams where Butler has caused drama and headaches - 4

I don’t think this is fair but I don’t really care about trading for a 35 year old Jimmy Butler so I’ll allow it.

[Willie Colon]

Remember Giannis didn't want to trade Khris for Jimmy 6 years ago, has anything changed? Because if he says no then it's not happening. Khris/Giannis have great on court chemistry so I could see him saying No again.

For one, it's likely this roster has reached its peak and we match up horribly against the best teams in the East. I don't think he'd be too upset if we take our chances with Butler. The look on his face every time we've gotten spanked by an elite team says it all.

[soxperry]

If you feel that our championship window ends sometime between two years ago and the end of next season, Butler makes a lot of sense.

Khris's playmaking is incredible and he's Khris, but it is very tempting to do this. We could conceivably surround Dame with great defenders instead of making things hard with Khris out there. He can spend a little less energy on defense and a little more on offense.

I dont think Jimmy needs to be the man. I think Jimmy wants to get paid.

Jimmy as a third option is like Jrue as a fifth option.

His stock is at an all time low.

We dont need Bobby

Im in

[tydett]

Let me preface by saying I actually really like everyone on the Bucks' roster. There's high quality character and comradery that you don't always guarantee in the NBA. They're easy to root for, and fun and look pretty when they're on. In a perfect world, they'd all play their entire careers for the Bucks, and would be ready to retire when it became clear they couldn't push it any more.

That being said, the toughest aspect of sports management is that loyalty is a killer. When Khris first signed his big extension about 7 years ago, I was worried he might get hurt again (think this was right around when his hamstring came off the bone or whatever) and not justify it. Thankfully I was wrong and stupid. But assuming that Khris is gonna continue to be the same guy he's been when he's on the wrong side of 30 and every fall carries with it the mileage of a 12 year career riddled with unfortunate injuries is what gets GMs fired and sinks teams. I do hope he can continue to be that guy, but if the FO doesn't think it's possible, then they have to look to try and seize upon whatever asset is left in the perception of Midds. The unique nature of having two superstars means they can't just flip Khris to a contending team, so you're left looking at unattractive options like Butler.

I'm ambivalent. I don't like that Jimmy has never left an organization on good terms ("a consummate amateur," as the late Norm might call him), and he's even more on the wrong side of 35, but the nature of Khris' injuries I can understand causing a team to be wary. I don't want it to happen, but I also don't want this team to be paying Middleton 20% of the cap to play 40 games a year for the next 4 years because he was once a great player for us. ****'s tough.

[raferfenix]

If Khris strings some good games together the necessity for the Bucks to include the 2031 first in a Jimmy deal starts to look differently.

I really do think Bobby would be awesome in Miami.

But also Middleton could be too. They got young wings so low pressure in the regular season on him, and players tend to play much better in Miami than they do elsewhere.

Betting on the Bucks besting Riley in a trade is not the best place to be in general...

[Ron Swanson]

Unprotected 2031 1st? **** no.

Lottery or Top-10 protected? Yeah, I'd do that pretty easily.

Top-3 protected?

[Badgerlander]

I think we will see this structure of a Butler deal.

Miami sends Butler to Milwaukee, Lakers 2026 2nd and Heat 2031 2nd to Pistons.

Bucks send Middleton, Portis, Bucks 2031 1st to Heat, Pat to Pistons

Follow-up moves of convert Rollins and Robbins to regular NBA contracts. Then sign two new two-way guys

Absolutely to Rollins but hard pass on giving Liam Robbins an NBA roster spot. Keep it open for a buyout big,

Bring in Nassir Little and Bruno Fernando for a look. Lonnie Walker still out there