40: Warriors at Wolves, 8:30 pm on ESPN

WolfAddict · Post #41 » by **WolfAddict** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:18 am

If only we'd been awake in the 1st....

I can't remember a qtr that bad before, and we had to play catch up all game because of it

winforlose · Post #42 » by **winforlose** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:18 am

Calinks wrote:Who in the hell dropped the ball on that rebound?

Two Words

winforlose · Post #43 » by **winforlose** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:19 am

WolfAddict wrote:If only we'd been awake in the 1st....

I can't remember a qtr that bad before, and we had to play catch up all game because of it

We had a worse one against Denver last year. 4th worst in team history.

FrenchMinnyFan · Post #44 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:19 am

ANT was clutch when we down by 4 and 1.7s to play

. Not surprised if we make a great come back during 4 or 5 min when ANT did not shoot or see the ball much.
Congrats to DDV Naz and Jaden, they did their best . Not paid well…

winforlose · Post #45 » by **winforlose** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:20 am

This is what happens when you play 36 minutes in a 48 minute game. If you don’t blame the coach for not having the team ready to play who do you blame?

Post #46 » by **Domejandro** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:21 am

Probably shouldn't defend the inbounder on that play, better to get another perimeter defender out there and have someone functionally playing free safety.

winforlose · Post #47 » by **winforlose** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:22 am

@Shrink remember when we were talking about how Naz never learned to rebound properly. This is the kind of cruel twist of fate **** the universe likes to pull on me.

Guest84 · Post #48 » by **Guest84** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:24 am

winforlose wrote:
Calinks wrote:Who in the hell dropped the ball on that rebound?

Two Words

It was actually Rudy’s man who tipped it out from what I saw. But oh well, you knew it was going to happen anyway.

FrenchMinnyFan · Post #49 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:26 am

Rudy was not good tonight, never in the rythm.

FrenchMinnyFan · Post #50 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:28 am

Funny how I stop to get frustrated after a loss after I accept the fact we are a play in team this year. I just watch and enjoy. Tonight looking at DDV amd Jaden energy make my day.

Post #51 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:36 am

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:Funny how I stop to get frustrated after a loss after I accept the fact we are a play in team this year. I just watch and enjoy. Tonight looking at DDV amd Jaden energy make my day.

Agreed....

Let's be honest with ourselves as a fan base. Can we make another run down the road? I believe we can, as long as Ant is on the roster we have a chance. But for the most part, it will probably always be a grind to get there. Look at Denver....six straight years in the playoffs, but made it to the WCF only twice. Is it a failure? Do they need to fire front office management and all of the coaches because of that ineptitude? Or is cultivating patience part of why they are continually in the picture?

winforlose · Post #52 » by **winforlose** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:36 am

Guest84 wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Calinks wrote:Who in the hell dropped the ball on that rebound?

Two Words

It was actually Rudy’s man who tipped it out from what I saw. But oh well, you knew it was going to happen anyway.

Naz had that side of the hoop, he boxed out to the middle which left that side without a wolf. Jim Pete even calls Naz out for out during the broadcast.

winforlose · Post #53 » by **winforlose** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:41 am

Klomp wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:Funny how I stop to get frustrated after a loss after I accept the fact we are a play in team this year. I just watch and enjoy. Tonight looking at DDV amd Jaden energy make my day.

Agreed....

Let's be honest with ourselves as a fan base. Can we make another run down the road? I believe we can, as long as Ant is on the roster we have a chance. But for the most part, it will probably always be a grind to get there. Look at Denver....six straight years in the playoffs, but made it to the WCF only twice. Is it a failure? Do they need to fire front office management and all of the coaches because of that ineptitude? Or is cultivating patience part of why they are continually in the picture?

They didn’t give away all their picks to trade for Rudy on the Karl timeline, then dump Karl for salary in a bad move that made them worse right before the season. We are not Denver, they did it more slowly and we rushed it. Now we have mismatched pieces and have to make very costly trades to try and dig out of the hole. Dilly isn’t worth an unprotected first, much less a top 1 protected swap as well. He might develop into being worth it. But that is one steep price to pay for maybe.

Post #54 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:52 am

winforlose wrote:
Klomp wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:Funny how I stop to get frustrated after a loss after I accept the fact we are a play in team this year. I just watch and enjoy. Tonight looking at DDV amd Jaden energy make my day.

Agreed....

Let's be honest with ourselves as a fan base. Can we make another run down the road? I believe we can, as long as Ant is on the roster we have a chance. But for the most part, it will probably always be a grind to get there. Look at Denver....six straight years in the playoffs, but made it to the WCF only twice. Is it a failure? Do they need to fire front office management and all of the coaches because of that ineptitude? Or is cultivating patience part of why they are continually in the picture?

They didn’t give away all their picks to trade for Rudy on the Karl timeline, then dump Karl for salary in a bad move that made them worse right before the season. We are not Denver, they did it more slowly and we rushed it. Now we have mismatched pieces and have to make very costly trades to try and dig out of the hole. Dilly isn’t worth an unprotected first, much less a top 1 protected swap as well. He might develop into being worth it. But that is one steep price to pay for maybe.

They signed a 32-year old Paul Millsap to a 3/$90 million contract, the next summer trading their starting SF Wilson Chandler and two 2nds for cash because they couldn't afford to keep him.

And yet, they kept the organizational structure intact.

FrenchMinnyFan · Post #55 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:58 am

Klomp wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:Funny how I stop to get frustrated after a loss after I accept the fact we are a play in team this year. I just watch and enjoy. Tonight looking at DDV amd Jaden energy make my day.

Agreed....

Let's be honest with ourselves as a fan base. Can we make another run down the road? I believe we can, as long as Ant is on the roster we have a chance. But for the most part, it will probably always be a grind to get there. Look at Denver....six straight years in the playoffs, but made it to the WCF only twice. Is it a failure? Do they need to fire front office management and all of the coaches because of that ineptitude? Or is cultivating patience part of why they are continually in the picture?

Agreed. We have to be realistic. Rudy is getting older, Mike is old, the ownership issues does not help, trading KAT because of financial issues kill us more ( even i still believe that we won't have win a ring with KAT). Unless the owner go all in and trade Randle for a real upgraded (which is very unlikely) as we dot not have much flexibility, we have to accept the reality.

For me, if we manage to pass the play-in and give a good fight at 1st round of PO, i will be satisfied.
Just my 2 cents, but considering al the ''Drama Queen'' style ANT make this year during many ITW, i will not be surprised if he ask for a trade within 2 years.

winforlose · Post #56 » by **winforlose** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:58 am

Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Klomp wrote:Agreed....

Let's be honest with ourselves as a fan base. Can we make another run down the road? I believe we can, as long as Ant is on the roster we have a chance. But for the most part, it will probably always be a grind to get there. Look at Denver....six straight years in the playoffs, but made it to the WCF only twice. Is it a failure? Do they need to fire front office management and all of the coaches because of that ineptitude? Or is cultivating patience part of why they are continually in the picture?

They didn’t give away all their picks to trade for Rudy on the Karl timeline, then dump Karl for salary in a bad move that made them worse right before the season. We are not Denver, they did it more slowly and we rushed it. Now we have mismatched pieces and have to make very costly trades to try and dig out of the hole. Dilly isn’t worth an unprotected first, much less a top 1 protected swap as well. He might develop into being worth it. But that is one steep price to pay for maybe.

They signed a 32-year old Paul Millsap to a 3/$90 million contract, the next summer trading their starting SF Wilson Chandler and two 2nds for cash because they couldn't afford to keep him.

And yet, they kept the organizational structure intact.

1 bad contract, vs trading 5 firsts, plus the money (see opportunity cost of,) Beasley, V8, Balmaro, and Beverly. Yes I am counting Kessler as a first as he never played a game as a wolf.

Rudy is a poor fit with Ant. Ant is bad at PNR, Rudy clogs the paint, and Rudy doesn’t play at the pace Ant wants to run. We designed a roster around twin towers. We then dumped out of it before seeing the full return. That is a little worse than one bad salary move.

FrenchMinnyFan · Post #57 » by **FrenchMinnyFan** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:08 am

Just see that last 10 games Randle hit 10 3 on 43 attempts... 23 %.... trading him may require some miracle

TimberKat · Post #58 » by **TimberKat** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:09 am

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:Rudy was not good tonight, never in the rythm.

I kept falling asleep all game due to jet lag. Missed half of the game, I was wondering why they never throw the ball to Rudy when GSW has such a small lineup? All game, even though, they were making a comeback, I never felt like they would win. There is a very different feel to this year's team vs previous years. You just know they will find a way to lose a close game. The only nice thing I can say is now we know our closing line up - Gobert, Naz, JMcD, Ant, DDV. DDV is finally fitting in.

Unfortunately, I did watched the entire 1st qtr and Naz missed the block out FT rebound

Post #59 » by **Klomp** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:15 am

winforlose wrote:
Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:
They didn’t give away all their picks to trade for Rudy on the Karl timeline, then dump Karl for salary in a bad move that made them worse right before the season. We are not Denver, they did it more slowly and we rushed it. Now we have mismatched pieces and have to make very costly trades to try and dig out of the hole. Dilly isn’t worth an unprotected first, much less a top 1 protected swap as well. He might develop into being worth it. But that is one steep price to pay for maybe.

They signed a 32-year old Paul Millsap to a 3/$90 million contract, the next summer trading their starting SF Wilson Chandler and two 2nds for cash because they couldn't afford to keep him.

And yet, they kept the organizational structure intact.

1 bad contract, vs trading 5 firsts, plus the money (see opportunity cost of,) Beasley, V8, Balmaro, and Beverly. Yes I am counting Kessler as a first as he never played a game as a wolf.

Rudy is a poor fit with Ant. Ant is bad at PNR, Rudy clogs the paint, and Rudy doesn’t play at the pace Ant wants to run. We designed a roster around twin towers. We then dumped out of it before seeing the full return. That is a little worse than one bad salary move.

There are plenty more examples of Denver going back and forth in terms of buying and selling.

So basically, you are saying that you wish we never traded for Rudy, that we never made the WCF as a result, etc...?

We are starting to see with consistency now why DiVincenzo was such an important get. Was it perfect value? Of course not, but it might've been the best we were ever going to get. So if you feel conviction that you will never win a title with Towns eating over $50 million, why hold onto him and let the value drop even farther?

Mismatched pieces happen all the time, it's called building a roster. But some people would rather tear down everything to the ground because the worst franchise in pro sports history is only .500 at the midway point of the season.

winforlose · Post #60 » by **winforlose** » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:23 am

Klomp wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Klomp wrote:
They signed a 32-year old Paul Millsap to a 3/$90 million contract, the next summer trading their starting SF Wilson Chandler and two 2nds for cash because they couldn't afford to keep him.

And yet, they kept the organizational structure intact.

1 bad contract, vs trading 5 firsts, plus the money (see opportunity cost of,) Beasley, V8, Balmaro, and Beverly. Yes I am counting Kessler as a first as he never played a game as a wolf.

Rudy is a poor fit with Ant. Ant is bad at PNR, Rudy clogs the paint, and Rudy doesn’t play at the pace Ant wants to run. We designed a roster around twin towers. We then dumped out of it before seeing the full return. That is a little worse than one bad salary move.

There are plenty more examples of Denver going back and forth in terms of buying and selling.

So basically, you are saying that you wish we never traded for Rudy, that we never made the WCF as a result, etc...?

We are starting to see with consistency now why DiVincenzo was such an important get. Was it perfect value? Of course not, but it might've been the best we were ever going to get. So if you feel conviction that you will never win a title with Towns eating over $50 million, why hold onto him and let the value drop even farther?

Mismatched pieces happen all the time, it's called building a roster. But some people would rather tear down everything to the ground because the worst franchise in pro sports history is only .500 at the midway point of the season.

I love Rudy as part of a twin tower where the other half is a floor spacing big who can defend the 4/5. What I don’t love is Rudy as the big without a PNR partner and without a box out partner. Ant, Jaden, KAT, and Naz was a core that could have gone places. We had all our picks, we drafted Kessler, and Beasley, Vando, and to a lesser extent Bev’s money had value. Dlo was also a wolf who was young enough and playing well enough to maybe bring home a decent return. We went all in with assets without going all in with mindset. DDV is showing value, but not as much as Karl. Our roster will get worse over time not better. We didn’t have a proper plan, and that is how you lose Ant and go back to sucking. One bad season at a time.