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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#61 » by Hangtime84 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:00 am

Thanks Pat for being the anchor that holds this team down. Honorable mentions to Dalen Terry and part time apparence of Coby White.
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#62 » by JimmyButler21 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:01 am

TheSuzerain wrote:I don't see how getting passed by Detroit doesn't get AK relieved of his duties.

That would involve the owner actually caring
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#63 » by Muzbar » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:09 am

Pure comedy.
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#64 » by HearshotKDS » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:42 am

This is year 3 of the "another day later, another dollar shorter" Bulls. At least Matas is getting some burn.
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#65 » by MrSparkle » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:50 am

I didn’t watch (yay!), but am an avid box score checker.

Wow man- I legitimately never heard of 3 starters on the Hawks, and “Ploddy” on the bench makes it 4/8 players I’ve never heard of.

Just piling on to say that this organization is a joke, but atleast with this loss, solidified their 4.5% chance stake in Cooper Flag (which might be slightly more than the possibility of dropping to #11/SAS).
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#66 » by Charlesareed » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:52 am

Stop watching the Chicago Bulls Basketball Team stop buying tickets stop buying team gear that will force JR to clean house
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#67 » by WesPeace » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:29 am

Another one of those games which should be last for Donovan as Bulls coach,but thats not happening.
They will leave together with AKME! Ownership doesnt care about winning either, so here we are, they should fire AKME, Billy last season,but.. NBA mediocre hell!
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#68 » by WesPeace » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:32 am

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HomoSapien wrote:Missed most of this game. Where's Pat? Did he get hurt or something?

He is averaging 6/3 over the last 7 games. He isn't hurt, he is just invisible.


He should be a star in next Invisible Man movie..another remake coming in 2026 probably lol
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#69 » by Dominator83 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:14 am

WesPeace wrote:Another one of those games which should be last for Donovan as Bulls coach,but thats not happening.
They will leave together with AKME! Ownership doesnt care about winning either, so here we are, they should fire AKME, Billy last season,but.. NBA mediocre hell!

10 place and filling the arena is considered winning for this ownership
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#70 » by Dan Z » Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:08 am

Dominator83 wrote:
WesPeace wrote:Another one of those games which should be last for Donovan as Bulls coach,but thats not happening.
They will leave together with AKME! Ownership doesnt care about winning either, so here we are, they should fire AKME, Billy last season,but.. NBA mediocre hell!

10 place and filling the arena is considered winning for this ownership

I wouldn't even call it mediocre. I'd call it bad.

The Bulls are in 10th place and if there was no East/West they'd be 23rd out of the 30 teams in the NBA. They might make the play-in, but I doubt they'll go very far.

I agree with you about the teams ownership. Sigh.
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#71 » by Muzbar » Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:16 am

Fear not play-in seekers!

The next 2 games are against the Hornets and Trailblazers, they'll be fighting for that play-in spot once again!
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#72 » by Jeffster81 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:43 am

Don't worry guys, AKME have another 10 years or so to figure it out. If they can not figure it out by then, the Bulls might consider moving on.
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#73 » by BullChit » Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:01 pm

We need stadium attendance to get to this level before Jerry gets annoyed

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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#74 » by samwana » Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:16 pm

Embarassing, the whole FO including coaching staff should be fired
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#75 » by Stratmaster » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:09 pm

As long as the Bulls have Williams and White playing starters minutes, and Billy Donovan is the head coach, this team will make no progress.

I do have to acknowledge that Pat hasn't been playing starters minutes. Billy at least has figured out that much. But he starts, and he plays just enough to be sure the Bulls are playing at a handicap.

How Billy still has a job is beyond me. It is obvious the goal for the last 3 seasons is to make the playoffs, and as weak as the overall team is if they were coached and deployed properly that shouldn’t have been an issue. Even if you disagree with that being the goal; hell, even if you think that was too much to ask, I can't think of any other organization where you fail at that low of a bar and the coach still just sits and blames the players.

Atlanta just played on the road with a couple guys who had never played an NBA game before and their approach on both sides of the ball was better. Their passing was crisp. Their back cuts were crisp. Their defense was better. How the hell does that happen?
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#76 » by ChettheJet » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:37 pm

One more time, it's like American Bandstand, the music changes but the dancing remains the same.I should have just watched The Rockford Files

When Lavine and Vucevic are still here, even without DeRozan, dominating the ball, I can't see any of this changing. Those two more so plus Guddey don't have the mental approach to lead the team. Yes White and Williams are out there but they're supporting players at this point. Williams sure can't rip the ball away from Zach and say, 'let me carry the load'.

The reason AKME have to take the blame and frankly shouldn't finish out the season is they at no point reacted as Lonzo wasn't coming back another season. Maybe deadline day +1 they get fired, because they built this roster. It's not that the starters are all bad players, it's that too much of that lineup comes out flat too often and against bad teams falls WAY behind and no matter the comeback effort they lose. If you 8+ yer veterans can't sop this as often as it happens then they aren't leaders and they need to GO.

Look at this game and ask, If the Bulls were without 5-6 rotation players is the bench of Dosunmu, Terry, THT, Smith and Matas going to come out and win a game against a near play in team? o and that's on management to because they have filled out the roster with consistent role players who can't step it up when the situation arises. That's fine for a playoff team but it puts the Bulls in the spot of not having young guys who enough experience to deliver when called.
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#77 » by DuckIII » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:02 pm

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WesPeace wrote:Another one of those games which should be last for Donovan as Bulls coach,but thats not happening.
They will leave together with AKME! Ownership doesnt care about winning either, so here we are, they should fire AKME, Billy last season,but.. NBA mediocre hell!

10 place and filling the arena is considered winning for this ownership


Correct. I was going to say its not correct that they don't value winning. Its that they value winning at a level that only matters to casual fans who don't want to feel like they wasted their money buying a ticket. Its that desire to "win" that led to the dead end we are in now.
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#78 » by drosestruts » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:24 pm

I get coaches are easier to replace - but I can't hang THAT loss on the coach.

If you can't beat a bunch of G-leaguers it's not a matter of who the Coach is.

I don't know who the Bulls think they are, but no, you're not good enough to just flip the switch late and win. As evidenced by the countless losses to less talented teams.

What's the Shoresy line - "I hate losing more than I like winning" - that's the energy we need here. But this team is for too ok with losing.
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#79 » by Stratmaster » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:33 pm

ChettheJet wrote:One more time, it's like American Bandstand, the music changes but the dancing remains the same.I should have just watched The Rockford Files

When Lavine and Vucevic are still here, even without DeRozan, dominating the ball, I can't see any of this changing. Those two more so plus Guddey don't have the mental approach to lead the team. Yes White and Williams are out there but they're supporting players at this point. Williams sure can't rip the ball away from Zach and say, 'let me carry the load'.

The reason AKME have to take the blame and frankly shouldn't finish out the season is they at no point reacted as Lonzo wasn't coming back another season. Maybe deadline day +1 they get fired, because they built this roster. It's not that the starters are all bad players, it's that too much of that lineup comes out flat too often and against bad teams falls WAY behind and no matter the comeback effort they lose. If you 8+ yer veterans can't sop this as often as it happens then they aren't leaders and they need to GO.

Look at this game and ask, If the Bulls were without 5-6 rotation players is the bench of Dosunmu, Terry, THT, Smith and Matas going to come out and win a game against a near play in team? o and that's on management to because they have filled out the roster with consistent role players who can't step it up when the situation arises. That's fine for a playoff team but it puts the Bulls in the spot of not having young guys who enough experience to deliver when called.


Unless you are LeBron you can't carry a team with 1 guy who doesn't belong in the league and a 2nd guy, who should be a 18 minute role player, in your starting lineup. Not to mention that the coach has given the 2nd guy free reign to chuck up 16 shots to score 16 points every game.

You can blame the 2 players who actually have talent if you want to, but it sure doesn't make much sense.
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Re: Bulls vs Hawks 7pm CT Jan. 15 2025 

Post#80 » by Stratmaster » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:36 pm

drosestruts wrote:I get coaches are easier to replace - but I can't hang THAT loss on the coach.

If you can't beat a bunch of G-leaguers it's not a matter of who the Coach is.

I don't know who the Bulls think they are, but no, you're not good enough to just flip the switch late and win. As evidenced by the countless losses to less talented teams.

What's the Shoresy line - "I hate losing more than I like winning" - that's the energy we need here. But this team is for too ok with losing.


The coach started Pat and Coby, and has been for years now. At this point, every game he starts those players is on him because it is pure idiocy.

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