Ex-Knicks, Sh**posts, and Old Trades - OH MY!

[Guano]

Right, so we lost iHart and Mitch.

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That killed our interior defense.

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We're also a little strapped on wings right now.

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And our coach is a maniac so we need guys who can stand heavy minutes.

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But in terms of offensive weapons, we're actually doing pretty good.

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All that said, Hart's rebounding and playmaking helps a lot with some of the deficiencies left by players that we lost.

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You got all that?

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Wonderful. Nice talk.


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So what you're saying is... we need to trade JHart for Ayton!!!

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Let me make this easier for you since you’re trolling and have had rose colored glasses for KAT since you traded for him in BAF

You’re replacing Mitch with Ayton.

Josh hart is being replaced with Toumani Camara

Toumani Camara

Toumani Camara

Toumani Camara

Toumani Camara

But go ahead and convince everyone that Dayron sharpe would’ve been a good ihart replacement like you was saying all off season

The unmitigated gall

[3toheadmelo]

Imagine ragging on me for wanting to acquire a player who produces at a similar level to Ayton per minute at just more than 1/10 the salary.

Per 36:
Day'Ron - 16ppg, 13.1rpg, 0.9 blk
Ayton - 16.3ppg, 12.1rpg, 1 blk

Nets 6+ points better with Sharpe on the court.
Blazers 4.5 points worse with Ayton on the court.

You know you’re cooked when you’re using per 36 to hype up a scrub. That’s what the frank fans used for every argument

[3toheadmelo]

KAT/Ayton front court defensively:

Who tf is arguing for a KAT and Ayton front court? My brother you’re lost in these arguments and I’m not sure why you’re stepping in here

[Guano]

meLo, "here me out... we need to trade jHart for ayton"

Mf I said Mitch for Ayton. Josh hart for Toumani Camara. You deserve this mid team

Thank you.
I do deserve to root for a top 5 team in the league.

[JayTWill]

No one is ignoring schit. My bad I’m not on here every day. Y’all really weird. Ive already said mad times what we should’ve done to mitigate the loss of Ihart which you conviently missed to type up this trash. Guys like Nick Richards, Myles Turner, Ayton are all guys who we could’ve gotten that are holding the opponents to a lower FG% than their average at the rim unlike KAT who has a DFG% of 70% at the rim letting opponents shoot 5% better, the worst rim protecting center in the league. And it’s not just KAT at the 5 that made us worse, giving up a major haul for Mikal who can’t spread the floor since his shot is broken and plays zero defense was an awful move. Now we also have Hart in the starting lineup who’s an average defender at best, while teams are ignoring on him on offense to double up on Brunson and KAT. Y’all not ready for that convo either though.

Anyone that believed a defensive trio of Brunson, KAT and Mikal would be a finals contender is pretty hilarious quite honestly. Me, sham, e-Balla told y’all this but yall ignored it cause yall only see talent on paper. Oh well. Enjoy the treadmill that you guys asked for.

Personally, I wasn't a huge fan of paying KAT $50-60M over the next 4 years as he nears the age of 30 with some injury concerns to pair him another defensive liability in Brunson who also isn't a great facilitator and Thibs, a coach who he struggled with defensively before, is not known to maximize his team's offensive talent and is not great at managing the health of his players. I would have the same concerns pairing Brunson, DDV, Randle and someone like Ayton with Thibs along with my worries about the personalities of Randle and Ayton especially in moments like now with the team struggling and the fan base not exactly being supportive.

I don't think adding Hart and another injured big is the direction Portland should be going in and I doubt they would move a young wing in the process.

I'm not sure if Mikal would have been on your team so how do you see the Brunson, DDV, OG, Randle, Ayton lineup working with Thibs?

I think that lineup would’ve been pretty good imo. Ayton has a better offensive game than Ihart did so he wouldn’t clog the paint and would open up floor for Brunson and Randle even more. Ayton is a wild card when it comes to effort, but we do have the guy who had him playing his best ball of his career (mark Bryant). Either way, even with his effort issues he’s still substantially a much better rim protector than KAT which is pretty wild.

But forget about Ayton which everyone wants to focus on, there were other options out there like Nick Richards, Myles Turner.. etc. we had multiple avenues to get an Ihart replacement and run it back.

I'm still trying to figure out if Richards is a good defender or just someone that blocks shots? Knicks' fans seem to love his defense more than Hornets' fans. I'm curious to see what impact he will have in Phoenix.

Were the Pacers looking to trade Turner? What would they trade him to the Knicks for?

[Stannis]

Jason Kidd 2013 Playoff numbers

12 games, 20 MPG, 0.9% on 12 FG% . But at least we didn't have the "drama" that came with Jeremy Linn

[Reign23]

Ayton. Jesus.

[Guano]

I said to replace Hart with one of the best defenders in the league who just turned 24. But people with agendas ignoring that

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what shouldn't be lost in all this is this poor kids careers is now doomed

[Capn'O]

Imagine ragging on me for wanting to acquire a player who produces at a similar level to Ayton per minute at just more than 1/10 the salary.

Per 36:
Day'Ron - 16ppg, 13.1rpg, 0.9 blk
Ayton - 16.3ppg, 12.1rpg, 1 blk

Nets 6+ points better with Sharpe on the court.
Blazers 4.5 points worse with Ayton on the court.

You know you’re cooked when you’re using per 36 to hype up a scrub. That’s what the frank fans used for every argument

Frank wasn't as good as anyone per/36. Ayton's production is alllllllmost as good as Sharpe's per minute at a mere 10x the cost! And Sharpe's team actually plays better when he's on the court. If continuing to hype Bargain Bin Brad Daugherty is victory for you, defeat must be absolutely epic.

Ah yes, goga who’s been struggling to outplay Wendell Carter for years to start full time

Ah yes, iHart who’s been struggling to outplay Zubac for years to start full time

Like iHart on the Clippers, he's not struggling to outplay anyone. He's comfortably doing it by every measure. That's the point of looking for underutilized guys instead of blowing a quarter of your cap and two starting level players on a declining player who doesn't give a crap just to get a shiny new Camara.

[Guano]

Imagine wanting to trade this

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16 days into the year and meLo already locked up the worst poster of the year award. Generational talent.

[3toheadmelo]

Personally, I wasn't a huge fan of paying KAT $50-60M over the next 4 years as he nears the age of 30 with some injury concerns to pair him another defensive liability in Brunson who also isn't a great facilitator and Thibs, a coach who he struggled with defensively before, is not known to maximize his team's offensive talent and is not great at managing the health of his players. I would have the same concerns pairing Brunson, DDV, Randle and someone like Ayton with Thibs along with my worries about the personalities of Randle and Ayton especially in moments like now with the team struggling and the fan base not exactly being supportive.

I don't think adding Hart and another injured big is the direction Portland should be going in and I doubt they would move a young wing in the process.

I'm not sure if Mikal would have been on your team so how do you see the Brunson, DDV, OG, Randle, Ayton lineup working with Thibs?

I think that lineup would’ve been pretty good imo. Ayton has a better offensive game than Ihart did so he wouldn’t clog the paint and would open up floor for Brunson and Randle even more. Ayton is a wild card when it comes to effort, but we do have the guy who had him playing his best ball of his career (mark Bryant). Either way, even with his effort issues he’s still substantially a much better rim protector than KAT which is pretty wild.

But forget about Ayton which everyone wants to focus on, there were other options out there like Nick Richards, Myles Turner.. etc. we had multiple avenues to get an Ihart replacement and run it back.

I'm still trying to figure out if Richards is a good defender or just someone that blocks shots? Knicks' fans seem to love his defense more than Hornets' fans. I'm curious to see what impact he will have in Phoenix.

Were the Pacers looking to trade Turner? What would they trade him to the Knicks for?

Well he can def protect the rim a bit. He has a DFG% of 56% at protecting the rim and forcing opponents to shoot 6.3% worse than their average at the rim.

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He's also put up promising numbers as a starter. He could've easily been a solid Ihart replacement.

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I know Myles turner has been in trade rumors like every year. In terms of a trade on who we would have to give up, not sure. Would prob have to give up Mitch and maybe a 1st round pick (idk if the contracts match).

[3toheadmelo]

I said to replace Hart with one of the best defenders in the league who just turned 24. But people with agendas ignoring that

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what shouldn't be lost in all this is this poor kids careers is now doomed

The audacity of someone who ruined Zion from being an all time great

[Guano]

I said to replace Hart with one of the best defenders in the league who just turned 24. But people with agendas ignoring that

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what shouldn't be lost in all this is this poor kids careers is now doomed

The audacity of someone who ruined Zion from being an all time great

My name isn't Moriah Mills

[NoDopeOnSundays]

This thread

[3toheadmelo]

meLo, "here me out... we need to trade jHart for ayton"

Mf I said Mitch for Ayton. Josh hart for Toumani Camara. You deserve this mid team

Thank you.
I do deserve to root for a top 5 team in the league.

We are top 5 when it comes to losing the most games against elite comp. You deserve this mf

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[3toheadmelo]

Imagine ragging on me for wanting to acquire a player who produces at a similar level to Ayton per minute at just more than 1/10 the salary.

Per 36:
Day'Ron - 16ppg, 13.1rpg, 0.9 blk
Ayton - 16.3ppg, 12.1rpg, 1 blk

Nets 6+ points better with Sharpe on the court.
Blazers 4.5 points worse with Ayton on the court.

You know you’re cooked when you’re using per 36 to hype up a scrub. That’s what the frank fans used for every argument

Frank wasn't as good as anyone per/36. Ayton's production is alllllllmost as good as Sharpe's per minute at a mere 10x the cost! And Sharpe's team actually plays better when he's on the court. If continuing to hype Bargain Bin Brad Daugherty is victory for you, defeat must be absolutely epic.

Ah yes, goga who’s been struggling to outplay Wendell Carter for years to start full time

Ah yes, iHart who’s been struggling to outplay Zubac for years to start full time

Like iHart on the Clippers, he's not struggling to outplay anyone. He's comfortably doing it by every measure. That's the point of looking for underutilized guys instead of blowing a quarter of your cap and two starting level players on a declining player who doesn't give a crap just to get a shiny new Camara.

Ah yes, THE Dayron Sharpe who has the TS% of Frank Ntilkina 's career average (51%) is going to be a great starting center.

Hold on guys.. let that marinate

A big man with the TS% of 51% in 2025 is going to be a great starting center

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[NoDopeOnSundays]

Mf I said Mitch for Ayton. Josh hart for Toumani Camara. You deserve this mid team

Thank you.
I do deserve to root for a top 5 team in the league.

We are top 5 when it comes to losing the most games against elite comp. You deserve this mf

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We have a losing record vs .500 or better teams since Tom got here, he hasn't had a single season over .500 against them with us. Seems like a coaching problem if multiple teams with different rosters can't beat quality squads, there's only 1 constant.

[3toheadmelo]

what shouldn't be lost in all this is this poor kids careers is now doomed

The audacity of someone who ruined Zion from being an all time great

My name isn't Moriah Mills

Your name is guan0 who is notorious for ruining young talent

[3toheadmelo]

Thank you.
I do deserve to root for a top 5 team in the league.

We are top 5 when it comes to losing the most games against elite comp. You deserve this mf

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We have a losing record vs .500 or better teams since Tom got here, he hasn't had a single season over .500 against them with us. Seems like a coaching problem if multiple teams with different rosters can't beat quality squads, there's only 1 constant.

Last year January we went 5-2 against teams .500 or better (wins against denver,minny,heat,sixers,rockets). We finally had a team that was able to get over the hump and we blew it all away to be a mid team. We basically pulled a 2014 Knicks. That's life as a Knicks fan, we always go backwards.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

We are top 5 when it comes to losing the most games against elite comp. You deserve this mf

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We have a losing record vs .500 or better teams since Tom got here, he hasn't had a single season over .500 against them with us. Seems like a coaching problem if multiple teams with different rosters can't beat quality squads, there's only 1 constant.

Last year January we went 5-2 against teams .500 or better (wins against denver,minny,heat,sixers,rockets). We finally had a team that was able to get over the hump and we blew it all away to be a mid team. We basically pulled a 2014 Knicks. That's life as a Knicks fan, we always go backwards.

A 7 game sample size? Brother, you need to let that Jan stuff go, that team wasn't going to win anything and everyone knows it, even the front office knew it. That team would have been the equivalent of the 60 win Hawk team.