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Re: 1/15: Game 41 - Warriors (19-20) at Timberwolves (21-18) ESPN at 6:30pm PST 

Post#61 » by Romulus » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:34 am

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Onus wrote:I really wonder if they’re going to trade Schroeder at the deadline

no he is the perfect tank commander. where else would you find a player that has -18 net rating?

Are we tanking or are we trying to stay mid? Who even knows at this point?


With Steph Curry on your roster, this shouldn't even be a question. However, with Joe Lacob running the show and everyone repeating the mantra, "we don't want to improve the roster," who the hell even knows.
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Post#62 » by WarriorGM » Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:55 am

Raptors beat the Celtics. Maybe the loss last game wasn't as bad as it seemed at the time.
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Re: 1/15: Game 41 - Warriors (19-20) at Timberwolves (21-18) ESPN at 6:30pm PST 

Post#63 » by cdubbz » Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:39 pm

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cpower wrote:no he is the perfect tank commander. where else would you find a player that has -18 net rating?

Are we tanking or are we trying to stay mid? Who even knows at this point?


With Steph Curry on your roster, this shouldn't even be a question. However, with Joe Lacob running the show and everyone repeating the mantra, "we don't want to improve the roster," who the hell even knows.


I'm willing to see this thing through with what Joe's vision is -- it seems he has Curry and Green on board.

Why make a trade if it won't put them at Championship contention? Does Vooch or Cam Johnson make us even make the WCF? 1st and 2nd round exits are for chumps! 8-)
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Post#64 » by superunknown » Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:48 pm

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Post#65 » by EvanZ » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:16 pm

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Onus wrote:I really wonder if they’re going to trade Schroeder at the deadline

no he is the perfect tank commander. where else would you find a player that has -18 net rating?

Are we tanking or are we trying to stay mid? Who even knows at this point?


I mean I know we're not tanking. At a minimum that would require trading Steph or that he "magically" gets injured and misses the rest of the season.
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Post#66 » by Onus » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:28 pm

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cpower wrote:no he is the perfect tank commander. where else would you find a player that has -18 net rating?

Are we tanking or are we trying to stay mid? Who even knows at this point?


I mean I know we're not tanking. At a minimum that would require trading Steph or that he "magically" gets injured and misses the rest of the season.

Are you sure? We continue to play Schroeder out of his normal role and heavy minutes even though he's quite literally tanking the team with his minutes. He's been the perfect stealth tank commander dragging us down and he continues to play heavy minutes.
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Post#67 » by EvanZ » Thu Jan 16, 2025 2:43 pm

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Onus wrote:Are we tanking or are we trying to stay mid? Who even knows at this point?


I mean I know we're not tanking. At a minimum that would require trading Steph or that he "magically" gets injured and misses the rest of the season.

Are you sure? We continue to play Schroeder out of his normal role and heavy minutes even though he's quite literally tanking the team with his minutes. He's been the perfect stealth tank commander dragging us down and he continues to play heavy minutes.


You can't tank with Steph. I mean look we won last night. That is not tanking. A tanking team would have figured out a way to lose that game. We're squarely a mid team that ends up with one Lottery ball. :lol: :banghead: :roll:

There's so many things we could do to actually tank and start a rebuild. We actually have valuable assets. Wiggins is having a good season. You might be able to trade him and actually get a pick back while taking back some **** contract. You could trade Steph for 4 first round picks. That's pretty much all you have to do. We'd lose nearly every game the rest of the way with those two moves.
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Post#68 » by Onus » Thu Jan 16, 2025 3:08 pm

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I mean I know we're not tanking. At a minimum that would require trading Steph or that he "magically" gets injured and misses the rest of the season.

Are you sure? We continue to play Schroeder out of his normal role and heavy minutes even though he's quite literally tanking the team with his minutes. He's been the perfect stealth tank commander dragging us down and he continues to play heavy minutes.


You can't tank with Steph. I mean look we won last night. That is not tanking. A tanking team would have figured out a way to lose that game. We're squarely a mid team that ends up with one Lottery ball. :lol: :banghead: :roll:

There's so many things we could do to actually tank and start a rebuild. We actually have valuable assets. Wiggins is having a good season. You might be able to trade him and actually get a pick back while taking back some **** contract. You could trade Steph for 4 first round picks. That's pretty much all you have to do. We'd lose nearly every game the rest of the way with those two moves.

It's only because Schroeder fouled out, can't tank without the stealth tank commander fouling out.
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Post#69 » by DonaldSanders » Thu Jan 16, 2025 4:38 pm

Wild game, fun to see us pull it out. Gui had great energy to kick the game off, love see us get a good start. Steph was great tonight, love seeing him bring us to the finish line. He had 31 points on 21 shots, 8 assists and 1 turnover. Saw one comment in hereabout Steph "stinking it up" -- my god folks! :roll:

Weird officiating wrung out some of the joy, but we pulled it out.



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this chit is always impressive. I mean, not even double-teammed, triple-teammed at halfcourt. crazy


Saw on reddit that it was 4 players at one point. Just insane!

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Post#70 » by EvanZ » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:14 pm

Onus wrote:
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Onus wrote:Are you sure? We continue to play Schroeder out of his normal role and heavy minutes even though he's quite literally tanking the team with his minutes. He's been the perfect stealth tank commander dragging us down and he continues to play heavy minutes.


You can't tank with Steph. I mean look we won last night. That is not tanking. A tanking team would have figured out a way to lose that game. We're squarely a mid team that ends up with one Lottery ball. :lol: :banghead: :roll:

There's so many things we could do to actually tank and start a rebuild. We actually have valuable assets. Wiggins is having a good season. You might be able to trade him and actually get a pick back while taking back some **** contract. You could trade Steph for 4 first round picks. That's pretty much all you have to do. We'd lose nearly every game the rest of the way with those two moves.

It's only because Schroeder fouled out, can't tank without the stealth tank commander fouling out.


Steph played 37 minutes. Kerr could have played him 32. There's just no way you can call this tanking. But I assume you're not being serious anyway.

I mean look. If this is tanking, add it to the list of things the FO and Kerr suck at.
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Post#71 » by superunknown » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:15 pm

DonaldSanders wrote:Wild game, fun to see us pull it out. Gui had great energy to kick the game off, love see us get a good start. Steph was great tonight, love seeing him bring us to the finish line. He had 31 points on 21 shots, 8 assists and 1 turnover. Saw one comment in hereabout Steph "stinking it up" -- my god folks! :roll:

Weird officiating wrung out some of the joy, but we pulled it out.



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this chit is always impressive. I mean, not even double-teammed, triple-teammed at halfcourt. crazy


Saw on reddit that it was 4 players at one point. Just insane!

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Post#72 » by Onus » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:35 pm

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You can't tank with Steph. I mean look we won last night. That is not tanking. A tanking team would have figured out a way to lose that game. We're squarely a mid team that ends up with one Lottery ball. :lol: :banghead: :roll:

There's so many things we could do to actually tank and start a rebuild. We actually have valuable assets. Wiggins is having a good season. You might be able to trade him and actually get a pick back while taking back some **** contract. You could trade Steph for 4 first round picks. That's pretty much all you have to do. We'd lose nearly every game the rest of the way with those two moves.

It's only because Schroeder fouled out, can't tank without the stealth tank commander fouling out.


Steph played 37 minutes. Kerr could have played him 32. There's just no way you can call this tanking. But I assume you're not being serious anyway.

I mean look. If this is tanking, add it to the list of things the FO and Kerr suck at.

Obviously they aren't selling parts to make sure that we tank, but playing Schroeder heavy minutes while he's being a clear negative has me questioning what the priorities are.
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Post#73 » by EvanZ » Thu Jan 16, 2025 6:58 pm

Nah that's just on Kerr and his brand of politics.
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Post#74 » by bay2hk » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:04 pm

Schroeder should be coming off the bench to run the second unit. I do think warriors are continuing to start him because they don’t want him to lose trade value. Warriors may use his salary in a bigger trade prior to trade deadline in ~3 weeks.
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Post#75 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:16 pm

Onus wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Onus wrote:It's only because Schroeder fouled out, can't tank without the stealth tank commander fouling out.


Steph played 37 minutes. Kerr could have played him 32. There's just no way you can call this tanking. But I assume you're not being serious anyway.

I mean look. If this is tanking, add it to the list of things the FO and Kerr suck at.

Obviously they aren't selling parts to make sure that we tank, but playing Schroeder heavy minutes while he's being a clear negative has me questioning what the priorities are.


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Post#76 » by CDM_Stats » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:17 pm

bay2hk wrote:Schroeder should be coming off the bench to run the second unit. I do think warriors are continuing to start him because they don’t want him to lose trade value. Warriors may use his salary in a bigger trade prior to trade deadline in ~3 weeks.


A team that's trading away something useful to the Warriors is going to view Schroder's value as an expiring, not as a tradeable asset. And if the plan was to pump his value by starting them, its having the exact opposite effect. Its much more simply explained by Kerr thinking that Curry/Dray turn the ball over too much and he wanted to play a PG with them, regardless of fit
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Post#77 » by Onus » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:27 pm

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Onus wrote:
EvanZ wrote:
Steph played 37 minutes. Kerr could have played him 32. There's just no way you can call this tanking. But I assume you're not being serious anyway.

I mean look. If this is tanking, add it to the list of things the FO and Kerr suck at.

Obviously they aren't selling parts to make sure that we tank, but playing Schroeder heavy minutes while he's being a clear negative has me questioning what the priorities are.


Hanlon's razor :dontknow:

He's continually prioritizes other things than putting the best lineups together for whatever reason. I'm not sure how anyone can defend him.
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Post#78 » by bay2hk » Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:15 pm

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bay2hk wrote:Schroeder should be coming off the bench to run the second unit. I do think warriors are continuing to start him because they don’t want him to lose trade value. Warriors may use his salary in a bigger trade prior to trade deadline in ~3 weeks.


A team that's trading away something useful to the Warriors is going to view Schroder's value as an expiring, not as a tradeable asset. And if the plan was to pump his value by starting them, its having the exact opposite effect. Its much more simply explained by Kerr thinking that Curry/Dray turn the ball over too much and he wanted to play a PG with them, regardless of fit


I do think there are some teams that need a backup PG. OKC / Suns come to mind. Trading Schroeder to OKC for a pick can be part of a bigger deal to upgrade our front court.

I do agree starting Schroeder with Curry is not looking good, but benching him will decrease his current trade value even more. What other reason is there to continue starting Schroeder? I don’t think Kerr and coaching staff is that stupid with how frequently they shuffle the starting lineup in the past.
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Post#79 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:17 am

bay2hk wrote:
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bay2hk wrote:Schroeder should be coming off the bench to run the second unit. I do think warriors are continuing to start him because they don’t want him to lose trade value. Warriors may use his salary in a bigger trade prior to trade deadline in ~3 weeks.


A team that's trading away something useful to the Warriors is going to view Schroder's value as an expiring, not as a tradeable asset. And if the plan was to pump his value by starting them, its having the exact opposite effect. Its much more simply explained by Kerr thinking that Curry/Dray turn the ball over too much and he wanted to play a PG with them, regardless of fit


I do think there are some teams that need a backup PG. OKC / Suns come to mind. Trading Schroeder to OKC for a pick can be part of a bigger deal to upgrade our front court.

I do agree starting Schroeder with Curry is not looking good, but benching him will decrease his current trade value even more. What other reason is there to continue starting Schroeder? I don’t think Kerr and coaching staff is that stupid with how frequently they shuffle the starting lineup in the past.


His value is determined based on his productivity, not whether he starts or not.

He simply isn't productive as a starter, but he might be off the bench in a playstyle more suited to his strengths.
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Post#80 » by Crazy-Canuck » Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:36 am

Rewatch:

Gui Santos gives me a less athletic but smarter Aaron Gordon vibe. He does everything kuminga can't and vice versa. I think he needs more minutes moving forward.

Was waters injured or just taken out of the rotation.

Rotation change.

Kerr staggered wiggs and steph.
Steph played more with buddy, loon, moody and gp2. +67 net rtg. Played with pace and ball movement.

Wiggs got stuck with schroeder. But the the planning was altered. 1h, Schroeder played like Schroeder, so the offense stagnated and wiggs got stuck with 3 grenades. In the 2h the ball played through wiggins. Schroeder brought ut up and it was straight Wiggins isos for like 7 straight plays in the non steph minutes.

Buddy really is klay incarnate. Some questionable shot choices abd not good off the dribble, but thinks every shot is a good shot. When he doesnt dribble and gets a shot off a kick out or curls around a loon screen, that shot is money.

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