Bears 10.0: GM and coach watch before the draft

[nitetrain8603]

So then Rapaport and Schefter (two pretty credible guys) have conflicting takes on where things stand with Johnson.

I’m inclined to believe Rap more given how all in the Bears seem to be on McCarthy. Perhaps the “rolling out of the red carpet” is a preemptive move to get a guy who likely is in their top group (while the getting is good) instead of missing out for a guy that’s a maybe at best. Is this the right approach? Not sure. But for the BJ or bust fans, this is very discouraging.

I get why fans get hung up on GM / Coach hires, because they're critically important, but the reality is they are extraordinarily hard for fans to gauge their effectiveness. I've never understood when fans just get hyper focused on a coordinator as the guy and have this absolute level of certainty that he's the one we should hire.

I sort of get it if a guy like Harbaugh enters the market, and you know someone is awesome and available, but coordinators are always risks. GMs are even tougher because you never really know what alternatives they had or considered and everyone is playing with a different hand and people often conflate the parts that were lucky with the parts that were skill.

Agreed. You also don't know if their plan was solid but their hands were tied by ownership. Also hard to know what the alternatives would've done.

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The Bears steak dinner with McCarthy only shaved off 50 points from Ben Johnson.

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[patryk7754]

https://youtu.be/aN0Puh1suD0?si=YW8UJj857RYoT5v-

[nomorezorro]

https://youtu.be/aN0Puh1suD0?si=YW8UJj857RYoT5v-

3 minutes and 30 seconds of a dude saying "i have no idea what ben johnson is thinking"

i think the most significant tangible news we have is rapaport saying the agents of people who have already interviewed with the raiders (so, aaron glenn, pete carroll and steve spaugunolo) think vegas's attention is focused on johnson at this point in the process. nobody purports to actually know what johnson is thinking.

[nomorezorro]

I can’t help but worry about how easy it was to turn down the Bears.

you can't help but worry about a thing that, as far as anyone is aware, has not happened yet?

So outside of the catfish situation, St Brown saying “Ben isn’t going to Chicago, might hold some weight. It’s an off the top comment, but he would have some insight.

are you familiar with the concept of "messing around"

[patryk7754]

I think it's safe to say that the main people in consideration for the bears jobs are Johnson, McCarthy, Freeman, and Flores. Those are they guys that have been coming up the most consistency and/or the bears are doing the most to get an interview with them.

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I think it's safe to say that the main people in consideration for the bears jobs are Johnson, McCarthy, Freeman, and Flores. Those are they guys that have been coming up the most consistency and/or the bears are doing the most to get an interview with them.

If Freeman takes an interview after the game, then something is up with him. That said, he probably wouldn’t.

[patryk7754]

I think it's safe to say that the main people in consideration for the bears jobs are Johnson, McCarthy, Freeman, and Flores. Those are they guys that have been coming up the most consistency and/or the bears are doing the most to get an interview with them.

If Freeman takes an interview after the game, then something is up with him. That said, he probably wouldn’t.

Yea, I don't think he will. He seems pretty interested in exploring other "better" options. If anything, I can see him using the interest in him to get a raise from ND.

[Betta Bulleavit]

I think it's safe to say that the main people in consideration for the bears jobs are Johnson, McCarthy, Freeman, and Flores. Those are they guys that have been coming up the most consistency and/or the bears are doing the most to get an interview with them.

If Freeman takes an interview after the game, then something is up with him. That said, he probably wouldn’t.

Yea, I don't think he will. He seems pretty interested in exploring other "better" options. If anything, I can see him using the interest in him to get a raise from ND.

He actually just got an extension from ND a few weeks ago.

Edit: I would also add that IF freeman was going to leave ND, I honestly believe It’d be for the Bears job.

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I can’t help but worry about how easy it was to turn down the Bears.

you can't help but worry about a thing that, as far as anyone is aware, has not happened yet?

That might be a better question to the fan of a team that is not the Bears. As a generic question, pretty good question.

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[nomorezorro]

albright isn't a particularly reliable reporter unfortunately

[Betta Bulleavit]

At this point, my mind is rather spent when it comes to this HC process. Everyone seems to have a different take about front runners and who’s in the best position and what not. The truth is that the playoffs are really hi-jacking this whole process because nobody really knows who’s leaning what way. For all we know, BJ and the Bears could still be as solid of a bet as ever but we’d never know because he (and other candidates) have had nothing more than a window to talk to teams. So we’re left with halfway reliable sources that may not know much more than we do.

So with, I’m gonna turn my focus to the draft for the time being.

[cocktailswith_2short]

At this point, my mind is rather spent when it comes to this HC process. Everyone seems to have a different take about front runners and who’s in the best position and what not. The truth is that the playoffs are really hi-jacking this whole process because nobody really knows who’s leaning what way. For all we know, BJ and the Bears could still be as solid of a bet as ever but we’d never know because he (and other candidates) have had nothing more than a window to talk to teams. So we’re left with halfway reliable sources that may not know much more than we do.

So with, I’m gonna turn my focus to the draft for the time being.

yeah it's real static out there everyone just waiting for the first domino to fall . Even my niners dc search is being held up by this .

[nomorezorro]

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alright at this point i'm just straight-up convinced nobody knows what anyone at halas hall is actually thinking. the schultz report about it being a two-man race between johnson and mccarthy gave me some pause, because it felt both credible and he's been pretty plugged in, but given the hedging with flores, i think he just went "hey, johnson is everyone's favorite pick, mccarthy has the best pedigree and they interviewed him in person; those are probably the frontrunners"

rapoport went on TV yesterday and the only insight he could give about the mccarthy interview is that it "felt like a big deal"...based on how local reporters were covering it. there's been no meaningful reporting about how high we truly are on johnson. breer randomly reported today that monken has been on our radar for a while. there's a persistent strain of low-key buzz about us liking flores. freeman is fluttering in and out of the picture.

nothing is consistent from reporter to reporter, and nothing is pointing in a focused direction. my conclusion: nobody knows anything.

[TheSuzerain]

I think it's safe to say that the main people in consideration for the bears jobs are Johnson, McCarthy, Freeman, and Flores. Those are they guys that have been coming up the most consistency and/or the bears are doing the most to get an interview with them.

There is a 0% chance it's Flores.

[Dresden]

Maybe the soonest will get some real news is after McCarthy interviews with the Saints.

[DropStep]

For all we know, BJ and the Bears could still be as solid of a bet as ever

OMG. This is a new one on me.

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