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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1181 » by niQ » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:49 pm

DG88 wrote:Updated mock from Tankathon
https://www.tankathon.com/mock_draft


Hmm. Wouldn't mind any of those top 5.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1182 » by dohboy_24 » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:56 pm

PGs:
Tier 1: Dylan Harper, Kasparas Jakucionis
Tier 2: Nolan Troare, Jeremiah Fears
Tier 3: Boogie Fland, Labaron Philon

SGs
Tier 1: Tre Johnson, Egor Demin, VJ Edgecombe
Tier 2: Kon Knueppel, Ben Saraf, Ian Jackson
Tier 3: Jase Richardson, Kam Jones, Hugo Gonzalez

SFs
Tier 1: Cooper Flagg, Ace Bailey
Tier 2: Noa Essengue, Liam McNeeley
Tier 3: Adou Thiero, Dink Pate

PFs
Tier 1: Asa Newell, Thomas Sorber, Collin Murray-Boyles
Tier 2: Rasher Fleming, Johni Broome, Donnie Freeman
Tier 3: JoJo Tugler, JT Toppin

Cs
Tier 1: Khaman Malauch, Derik Queen
Tier 2: Danny Wolf, Rocco Zikarsky
Tier 3: Maxime Raynaud, Tomislav Ivisic, Zvonimir Ivisic

As long as we come out of the draft with at least one prospect from tier 1 with our first round pick and at least one prospect from tier 2/3 with our second round pick, I think we can call this draft a win.

Tier 1 prospects (in order of preference): Cooper Flagg, Dylan Harper, Kasparas Jakucionis, Ace Bailey, Egor Demin, Khaman Malauch, Derik Queen, Thomas Sorber, Tre Johnson, VJ Edgecombe, Asa Newell, Collin Murray-Boyles

Tier 2 prospects (in order of preference): Jeremiah Fears, Ben Saraf, Nolan Troare, Danny Wolf, Ian Jackson, Noa Essengue, Donnie Freeman, Kon Knueppel, Rocco Zikarsky, Johni Broome, Rasher Fleming

Tier 3 prospects (in order of preference): Dink Pate, Adou Thiero, Jase Richardson, Labaron Philon, Boogie Fland, JT Toppin, JoJo Tugler, Maxime Raynaud, Tomislav Ivisic, Zvonimir Ivisic
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1183 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:27 pm

How do y'all feel about Gradey vs Kon Knueppel as prospects? Not sure of Kon's wingspan but Gradey doesn't look all that taller.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1184 » by CazOnReal » Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:22 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:How do y'all feel about Gradey vs Kon Knueppel as prospects? Not sure of Kon's wingspan but Gradey doesn't look all that taller.

Dick has some sneaky athleticism that Knueppel lacks. Haven't seen enough of the latter's court vision or general playmaking to compare that aspect to Gradey.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1185 » by BoyzNTheHood » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:05 am

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:How do y'all feel about Gradey vs Kon Knueppel as prospects? Not sure of Kon's wingspan but Gradey doesn't look all that taller.

I get the impression Knueppel is more like Corey Kispert than Gradey. Gradey is more than a standstill shooter, even though he does that well.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1186 » by greekman » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:09 am

7 teams fighting for the top picks.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1187 » by TNRaps4life » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:11 am

Ace will be the # 2 pick if Raptors have that pick. He oozes so much raw talents.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1188 » by S.W.A.N » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:37 am

TNRaps4life wrote:Ace will be the # 2 pick if Raptors have that pick. He oozes so much raw talents.

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Not unless his stats improve soon.

It definitely possible, as his athletic profile is ideal. But Harper and Jak have been far far better at the college level.

I still believe there are tiers to this draft.


I think it pretty obvious that raps are going to be in the top 8 in draft standings so a top 10 pick is almost a lock now. With luck we are getting a top 4 pick. With no luck we're getting 5-7. With bad luck we're getting 8-10


Tier 1: Flagg. At this point he's in a class by himself. His all-world defensive potential along with his strong offensive game makes him a no-brainer for most teams. Scotty Barnes ++

Tier 2: Harper. At points in this season he's flirted with being worthy of the number 1 pick. Elite offensive potential with average defender potential.

Now it gets interesting.

Tier 3: Ace Bailey. Highest upside in the draft? Big shot making skills in 6'10 body. Could be a Durant-lite
Yak. Probably one of the safest top 5 picks. His ++ pg size and shooting make him an incredibly intriguing prospect

Tier 4: V.J. Elite athlete and defender with tremendous upside. Depending on his draft measurements his stock may rise or fall a tier. I love the IDEA of him with the raptors for his elite defensive potential.
Fears. Another intriguing PG. This is the speedster who could be lethal driving. Not the shooting level that Harper/Yak have but a way better top end speed.
Kaman: This is one I probably love more than most. I absolutely love his screens. I can imagine him setting Gortat screens for days and rim rolling like a beast. Also moves better than the average 7'2 guy so he won't be relegated to a drop big on D. His excellent free throw shooting is also a huge +. If we are in the 6-9 range he should absolutely be a potential target.
Asa: This is my darkhorse guy. I think he's the most spicy boring pick ever in that this might be above the range most teams have him but he's just a solid alround big with sneaky good upside. A bit of a 4-5 tweener but in a good way. Another guy who I think will go up or down a tier based on measurements.


Honorable mention: Guys that could move into top 4 tiers before draft

Tre Johnson. Is he Cam Johnson or more?
Demin. Elite passer but struggling against top tier athletes. Can he actually be a pg at next level?
Queen. Great offense. Questionable D. Upside of a Sengun type C
Saraf. Another dark horse guy. Can he be a full time pg? Can he defend?
Traore. Working his way back into the convo. His early season shooting killed his rep.

Honorable honorable mention for the guys that I think could still end up being top 5 picks.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1189 » by Psubs » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:21 am

dohboy_24 wrote:PGs:
Tier 1: Dylan Harper, Kasparas Jakucionis
Tier 2: Nolan Troare, Jeremiah Fears
Tier 3: Boogie Fland, Labaron Philon

SGs
Tier 1: Tre Johnson, Egor Demin, VJ Edgecombe
Tier 2: Kon Knueppel, Ben Saraf, Ian Jackson
Tier 3: Jase Richardson, Kam Jones, Hugo Gonzalez

SFs
Tier 1: Cooper Flagg, Ace Bailey
Tier 2: Noa Essengue, Liam McNeeley
Tier 3: Adou Thiero, Dink Pate

PFs
Tier 1: Asa Newell, Thomas Sorber, Collin Murray-Boyles
Tier 2: Rasher Fleming, Johni Broome, Donnie Freeman
Tier 3: JoJo Tugler, JT Toppin

Cs
Tier 1: Khaman Malauch, Derik Queen
Tier 2: Danny Wolf, Rocco Zikarsky
Tier 3: Maxime Raynaud, Tomislav Ivisic, Zvonimir Ivisic

As long as we come out of the draft with at least one prospect from tier 1 with our first round pick and at least one prospect from tier 2/3 with our second round pick, I think we can call this draft a win.

Tier 1 prospects (in order of preference): Cooper Flagg, Dylan Harper, Kasparas Jakucionis, Ace Bailey, Egor Demin, Khaman Malauch, Derik Queen, Thomas Sorber, Tre Johnson, VJ Edgecombe, Asa Newell, Collin Murray-Boyles

Tier 2 prospects (in order of preference): Jeremiah Fears, Ben Saraf, Nolan Troare, Danny Wolf, Ian Jackson, Noa Essengue, Donnie Freeman, Kon Knueppel, Rocco Zikarsky, Johni Broome, Rasher Fleming

Tier 3 prospects (in order of preference): Dink Pate, Adou Thiero, Jase Richardson, Labaron Philon, Boogie Fland, JT Toppin, JoJo Tugler, Maxime Raynaud, Tomislav Ivisic, Zvonimir Ivisic


Boogie Fland is Tier 2.

What makes Rocco Zikarsky better than the Ivisic's? Flip Tomislav and Zikarsky. Zvonimir is borderline Tier 2. It's just the team is playing smallball now and they are losing more.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1190 » by TNRaps4life » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:25 am

Still doubting Ace?

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1191 » by Syd-TK3 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:43 am

TNRaps4life wrote:Still doubting Ace?

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Let him stay underrated Silver not gonna give us 1st pick anyways we'll pick him up later
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1192 » by TNRaps4life » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:47 am

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1193 » by TNRaps4life » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:52 am

Talent is unreal.


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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1194 » by DreamTeam09 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:01 am

Ino you guys don't care about fit, but outside of the big 3 not a lot of prospects fit as starters in the high lottery. Khaman makes sense as a future C. VJ is like Ochai on roids with youth so he could make sense. I'm not high on Kasparis.

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1195 » by DelAbbot » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:12 am

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TNRaps4life wrote:Still doubting Ace?

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Let him stay underrated Silver not gonna give us 1st pick anyways we'll pick him up later


Ace's ceiling look to be a MPJ

but just too many red flags about his game - he's really high ceiling, low floor
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1196 » by Psubs » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:21 am

DelAbbot wrote:
Syd-TK3 wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:Still doubting Ace?

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Let him stay underrated Silver not gonna give us 1st pick anyways we'll pick him up later


Ace's ceiling look to be a MPJ

but just too many red flags about his game - he's really high ceiling, low floor


MPJr without the back injuries is pretty darn good.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1197 » by RoteSchroder » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:24 am

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dohboy_24 wrote:PGs:
Tier 1: Dylan Harper, Kasparas Jakucionis
Tier 2: Nolan Troare, Jeremiah Fears
Tier 3: Boogie Fland, Labaron Philon

SGs
Tier 1: Tre Johnson, Egor Demin, VJ Edgecombe
Tier 2: Kon Knueppel, Ben Saraf, Ian Jackson
Tier 3: Jase Richardson, Kam Jones, Hugo Gonzalez

SFs
Tier 1: Cooper Flagg, Ace Bailey
Tier 2: Noa Essengue, Liam McNeeley
Tier 3: Adou Thiero, Dink Pate

PFs
Tier 1: Asa Newell, Thomas Sorber, Collin Murray-Boyles
Tier 2: Rasher Fleming, Johni Broome, Donnie Freeman
Tier 3: JoJo Tugler, JT Toppin

Cs
Tier 1: Khaman Malauch, Derik Queen
Tier 2: Danny Wolf, Rocco Zikarsky
Tier 3: Maxime Raynaud, Tomislav Ivisic, Zvonimir Ivisic

As long as we come out of the draft with at least one prospect from tier 1 with our first round pick and at least one prospect from tier 2/3 with our second round pick, I think we can call this draft a win.

Tier 1 prospects (in order of preference): Cooper Flagg, Dylan Harper, Kasparas Jakucionis, Ace Bailey, Egor Demin, Khaman Malauch, Derik Queen, Thomas Sorber, Tre Johnson, VJ Edgecombe, Asa Newell, Collin Murray-Boyles

Tier 2 prospects (in order of preference): Jeremiah Fears, Ben Saraf, Nolan Troare, Danny Wolf, Ian Jackson, Noa Essengue, Donnie Freeman, Kon Knueppel, Rocco Zikarsky, Johni Broome, Rasher Fleming

Tier 3 prospects (in order of preference): Dink Pate, Adou Thiero, Jase Richardson, Labaron Philon, Boogie Fland, JT Toppin, JoJo Tugler, Maxime Raynaud, Tomislav Ivisic, Zvonimir Ivisic


Boogie Fland is Tier 2.

What makes Rocco Zikarsky better than the Ivisic's? Flip Tomislav and Zikarsky. Zvonimir is borderline Tier 2. It's just the team is playing smallball now and they are losing more.


Haven’t paid attention to Zvon in the longest time…his stats in the last 8 games are utter trash. Seems like his coach doesn’t really want to play him? It may be best for him to stay in college another year and switch coaches. Dude is not gonna get drafted if this continues.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1198 » by Psubs » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:35 am

RoteSchroder wrote:Haven’t paid attention to Zvon in the longest time…his stats in the last 8 games are utter trash. Seems like his coach doesn’t really want to play him? It may be best for him to stay in college another year and switch coaches. Dude is not gonna get drafted if this continues.


It's like after he got hurt they went small and matched opponents size. I would just turn pro with bro and not drafted go back and make money in Europe and if a team wants him then sign a FA contract worth more than a late 1st round contract.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1199 » by Syd-TK3 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:37 am

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Syd-TK3 wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:Still doubting Ace?

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Let him stay underrated Silver not gonna give us 1st pick anyways we'll pick him up later


Ace's ceiling look to be a MPJ

but just too many red flags about his game - he's really high ceiling, low floor

People just overthinking him. He's got way more potential than a 2 back surgery MPJ.
When Cooper was struggling to start the year everyone was ready to give him grace for just being a 17year old why can't Ace get the same opportunity to grow as player in a even worse team situation.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2 

Post#1200 » by LoveMyRaps » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:36 am

Everyone that was doubting Ace, stay on that side.
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