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Game 40: Cavs @ Thunder 1/16/2025

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Game 40: Cavs @ Thunder 1/16/2025 

Post#1 » by ijspeelman » Thu Jan 16, 2025 5:57 pm

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Re: Game 40: Cavs @ Thunder 1/16/2025 

Post#2 » by JujitsuFlip » Thu Jan 16, 2025 7:57 pm

My friend gave me their HBO Max login so i will be watching this one at home.

No Chet or Hartenstien for them.

TJ is questionable for us.

Allen and Mobley are going to have to have a repeat performance from last week if the Cavs are going to win tn.
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Re: Game 40: Cavs @ Thunder 1/16/2025 

Post#3 » by ijspeelman » Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:54 pm

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Per Ethan Sands, Ty Jerome is AVAILABLE tonight versus the Thunder after missing the last two games with an illness.

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Post#4 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:46 am

Ik there's a thread on the GB, but Cavs forcing it a little early.
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Re: Game 40: Cavs @ Thunder 1/16/2025 

Post#5 » by ijspeelman » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:47 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:Ik there's a thread on the GB, but Cavs forcing it a little early.


They've had some good looks but they do look a little flustered
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Post#6 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:59 am

Very sloppy with the ball, 19-2 run for the Thunder.
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Post#7 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:15 am

I'd probably go away from that zone, it is not working.
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Re: Game 40: Cavs @ Thunder 1/16/2025 

Post#8 » by ijspeelman » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:23 am

Not to be too pessimistic, but against a team like this it feels like 24 points is an insurmountable hill to climb with 2.5 quarters to go

Not giving up but I'll throw it out there
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Post#9 » by jbk1234 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:52 am

Well, Kenny was bound to get out-coached in one of these. Let's have no rim protection against SGA seems like simple Simon stuff though. Also, matchups like this are why I made the LeVert thread on the T&T board.
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Post#10 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:56 am

I just can't believe we're not running our offense.

I have not once seen them try to get into their stuff.

Outta the gate they were trying to not be themselves.
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Re: Game 40: Cavs @ Thunder 1/16/2025 

Post#11 » by ijspeelman » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:00 am

JujitsuFlip wrote:I just can't believe we're not running our offense.

I have not once seen them try to get into their stuff.

Outta the gate they were trying to not be themselves.


Its not that they aren't running it, but OKC just isn't allowing them. And we aren't figuring out how to attack it.

IDK if it really matters if we do or don't at this point for this game, but it would be nice if we could figure something out for future match-ups.
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Post#12 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:06 am

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JujitsuFlip wrote:I just can't believe we're not running our offense.

I have not once seen them try to get into their stuff.

Outta the gate they were trying to not be themselves.


Its not that they aren't running it, but OKC just isn't allowing them. And we aren't figuring out how to attack it.

IDK if it really matters if we do or don't at this point for this game, but it would be nice if we could figure something out for future match-ups.
They for sure did an intensive film study.

We came out last game and got 2 quick and easy 3s off our sets.

Tonight we tried to pound it inside early and often.

They just weren't gonna let us get the easy looks from deep and the refs are really allowing a lot of physicality.

On the other side, they can't miss from deep. Zone in the 2nd quarter exasperated this.
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Post#13 » by ijspeelman » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:08 am

I am not one to turn off a game, but I might be out of this one.

Just not fun to watch. I may come back and watch the rest of the game later to see if we did anything interesting
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Re: Game 40: Cavs @ Thunder 1/16/2025 

Post#14 » by ijspeelman » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:38 am

For how good the first Thunder Cavs game made me feel, this one had the exact impact in the opposite direction.

I am not going to try to take too much away from this game, but I'll be holding on to it in to the playoffs if I want to or not.

Not to be too dramatic lol
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Post#15 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:55 am

ijspeelman wrote:I am not one to turn off a game, but I might be out of this one.

Just not fun to watch. I may come back and watch the rest of the game later to see if we did anything interesting
You didn't miss much lol
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Re: Game 40: Cavs @ Thunder 1/16/2025 

Post#16 » by JonFromVA » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:54 am

ijspeelman wrote:For how good the first Thunder Cavs game made me feel, this one had the exact impact in the opposite direction.

I am not going to try to take too much away from this game, but I'll be holding on to it in to the playoffs if I want to or not.

Not to be too dramatic lol


Hey maybe they'll realize they're going to have to play some defense.
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Post#17 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:06 am

Okoro 1-8 from deep, woof.
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Re: Game 40: Cavs @ Thunder 1/16/2025 

Post#18 » by jbk1234 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:59 am

JonFromVA wrote:
ijspeelman wrote:For how good the first Thunder Cavs game made me feel, this one had the exact impact in the opposite direction.

I am not going to try to take too much away from this game, but I'll be holding on to it in to the playoffs if I want to or not.

Not to be too dramatic lol


Hey maybe they'll realize they're going to have to play some defense.


My bigger concern is Dort on Mitchell. Luka was able to get him in foul trouble while Ingram was not in the playoffs. Dort defended the same way in both series.

We lost the game for many reasons, but Dort basically decided he was going to play something other than basketball, especially against Allen. If that's not why TT is on roster, I struggle to think of why he is. Say what you will about Blatt, but he knew he had to put Perkins in against the Celtics in Game 4.
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Re: Game 40: Cavs @ Thunder 1/16/2025 

Post#19 » by JujitsuFlip » Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:43 am

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JonFromVA wrote:
ijspeelman wrote:For how good the first Thunder Cavs game made me feel, this one had the exact impact in the opposite direction.

I am not going to try to take too much away from this game, but I'll be holding on to it in to the playoffs if I want to or not.

Not to be too dramatic lol


Hey maybe they'll realize they're going to have to play some defense.


My bigger concern is Dort on Mitchell. Luka was able to get him in foul trouble while Ingram was not in the playoffs. Dort defended the same way in both series.

We lost the game for many reasons, but Dort basically decided he was going to play something other than basketball, especially against Allen. If that's not why TT is on roster, I struggle to think of why he is. Say what you will about Blatt, but he knew he had to put Perkins in against the Celtics in Game 4.
Did he though? A lot of me thinks that was Lue or maybe even Drew.

Blatt was lost most if not all of his 1.5 seasons in the NBA.
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Re: Game 40: Cavs @ Thunder 1/16/2025 

Post#20 » by mcfly1204 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:11 pm

Mitchell in the two OKC games:

6/31 from the field (19%)
3/11 from three (27%)
6 assists

Yuck.
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