pifhluk23 wrote:No way were giving up a 1st rd pick in AJ Johnson and 2031 1st and 2nd unprotected for a possible 5 month rental of Butler... We'd need assurances that he would sign for 2 more years to match up with Dame or that 1st needs to be lottery protected.
i can't imagine Jimmy is worth two first round picks more than Khris right now. that's really where this discussion should have started. what is the difference in value here?
Jimmy's stock is at an all time low. Khris's stock is not great either but he has had great playoff performances the past two seasons. His problems are being able to do a full regular season and his defense. I maintain that if you put him on a team like Orlando or Houston, he's a great fit.
With that in mind, here's something i just pieced together.
This is assuming the Heat see this as a first step in a significant retooling of their roster
Heat Perspective: While Harris and Beas are salary filler, they get KCP, Bobby and a 1st for Jimmy. KCP and Bobby can either be kept if the retool goes quickly or flipped if they want to grab more assets. The value is probably not what Heat fans are hoping for, but I'm not sure the market demands more than that. If it does, and there's a bid war, perhaps the Bucks add either 31 1st or a young player that fits into that 2M window.
Bucks Perspective: Pretty simple math for them. They get a guy who fits their roster much better than Khris or Bobby. This outgoing value may seem light to non Milwaukee fans for such a high ceiling return, and that may prove out, but people dont understand just how good Khris is offensively. He has evolved into an incredible passer and playmaker who makes great decisions very quickly. Paired with his shooting and tough shot making, he presents a lot of value for a team who can cover his defensive deficiencies.
Magic Perspective: This is the shakiest part, by far. No idea if they want to accelerate their timeline enough to spend on this. But the fit is great and the value seems fair. They are a franchise who has historically been comfortable chasing the playoffs and not worrying about championship contention. Maybe that's different now. But they do have high end players, they are just young and banged up. This changes their identity a little bit but you cannot ask for a better vet to insert into a young locker room than Khris.
Detroit Perspective: They take in some salary, the get a playable vet to help guide the youngsters, they get three 2nds. Maybe it requires a little more. Used to cost about a late 1st to take in 10M in non expiring salary. With the value add of 2nds due to apron rules and with the cap having gone up significantly, perhaps 10M is the new 5M.
