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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#201 » by bbms » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:09 am

Onlytimewilltel wrote:
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we're a few weeks apart of okc completely dumpstering the celtics, holding them to 40 ortg on the second quarter come on, don't be so condescending...


The Celtics lost to the Kings in Boston a few days later.

It's regular season ball. OKC fans here are thumping their chest without their team showing any indication they can handle anything that has stakes so far.

Just calling it


:lol: Dude why you all up in every OKC thread talking about the Celtics? Let these young cats enjoy their good team, don’t be a damn grinch


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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#202 » by bbms » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:10 am

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My favorite thing about this is you acknowledging a few pages ago that you're probably wrong.

So we have that to fall back on.

Why do you think OKC is the only team that got better? Or is dealing with injuries?

There was a point when 47% of your games this season (your first 19) were against injured opponents.

Celtics have played less games with their healthy rotation than OKC this year. And they also have a bench player who improved into a 20ppg kind of scorer and is the second best volume 3 point shooter in the entire NBA.

The Celtics won an NBA championship basically without KP.
Loads of teams got better.

OKC is solidifying themselves as the second best team through this early regular season.

Let's see what they can do in the playoffs. The post season is a different game.

If others are stuck in the past, you're stuck in a meaningless stretch of regular season basketball.



we're a few weeks apart of okc completely dumpstering the celtics, holding them to 40 ortg on the second quarter come on, don't be so condescending...


The Celtics lost to the Kings in Boston a few days later.

It's regular season ball. OKC fans here are thumping their chest without their team showing any indication they can handle anything that has stakes so far.

Just calling it


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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#203 » by Infinite Llamas » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:59 am

This is the same owner that refused to keep the KD/Westbrook/Harden trio together?
Will he be willing to spend to keep this team together because it will get expensive at some point. Chet. JDub. Shai. Hartenstein. Heck some team will throw money at Wiggins and Joe and Wallace. Will Dort be moved as he has a very friendly contract??
I mean this is looking far ahead but JDub and Chet extensions are looming. And their owner has broken up a potential championship core before…
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#204 » by Special_Puppy » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:22 am

Infinite Llamas wrote:This is the same owner that refused to keep the KD/Westbrook/Harden trio together?
Will he be willing to spend to keep this team together because it will get expensive at some point. Chet. JDub. Shai. Hartenstein. Heck some team will throw money at Wiggins and Joe and Wallace. Will Dort be moved as he has a very friendly contract??
I mean this is looking far ahead but JDub and Chet extensions are looming. And their owner has broken up a potential championship core before…


You can come up with a bunch of scenarios where they only get 0-1 rings, but clearly they're better positioned to create a dynasty than any team ever
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#205 » by BigGargamel » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:26 am

Special_Puppy wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:This is the same owner that refused to keep the KD/Westbrook/Harden trio together?
Will he be willing to spend to keep this team together because it will get expensive at some point. Chet. JDub. Shai. Hartenstein. Heck some team will throw money at Wiggins and Joe and Wallace. Will Dort be moved as he has a very friendly contract??
I mean this is looking far ahead but JDub and Chet extensions are looming. And their owner has broken up a potential championship core before…


You can come up with a bunch of scenarios where they only get 0-1 rings, but clearly they're better positioned to create a dynasty than any team ever


:lol:

Any team ever? Clearly? Let them get to a WCF at least first. You guys are so wild and reactionary with your takes on this board. It will take a LOT for any team to surpass the Warriors dynasty. Especially with the new CBA. Those rules were basically created to keep teams from being like the Warriors were. I don't think we will see a true dynasty unless the CBA rules change again.

You would think, after seeing this very same Thunder franchise fumble what looked like a sure fire dynasty a decade ago, people would learn to pump the breaks and let things play out a bit, but I guess not.
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#206 » by Jaqua92 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:39 am

bbms wrote:
Onlytimewilltel wrote:
Jaqua92 wrote:
The Celtics lost to the Kings in Boston a few days later.

It's regular season ball. OKC fans here are thumping their chest without their team showing any indication they can handle anything that has stakes so far.

Just calling it


:lol: Dude why you all up in every OKC thread talking about the Celtics? Let these young cats enjoy their good team, don’t be a damn grinch


read the thread title and you'll find the answer


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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#207 » by slick_watts » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:55 am

Infinite Llamas wrote:This is the same owner that refused to keep the KD/Westbrook/Harden trio together?
Will he be willing to spend to keep this team together because it will get expensive at some point. Chet. JDub. Shai. Hartenstein. Heck some team will throw money at Wiggins and Joe and Wallace. Will Dort be moved as he has a very friendly contract??
I mean this is looking far ahead but JDub and Chet extensions are looming. And their owner has broken up a potential championship core before…


there is no evidence at all that thunder ownership made a decision not to keep harden. that was sam presti's decision, and everyone's theories for why harden was offered $4 million less than the max is just idle speculation. the thunder had the top payroll in the league during the paul george / russell westbrook years, which casts doubt on ownership not wanting to spend being the impetus for harden getting traded.
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#208 » by Special_Puppy » Fri Jan 17, 2025 3:57 am

slick_watts wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:This is the same owner that refused to keep the KD/Westbrook/Harden trio together?
Will he be willing to spend to keep this team together because it will get expensive at some point. Chet. JDub. Shai. Hartenstein. Heck some team will throw money at Wiggins and Joe and Wallace. Will Dort be moved as he has a very friendly contract??
I mean this is looking far ahead but JDub and Chet extensions are looming. And their owner has broken up a potential championship core before…


there is no evidence at all that thunder ownership made a decision not to keep harden. that was sam presti's decision, and everyone's theories for why harden was offered $4 million less than the max is just idle speculation. the thunder had the top payroll in the league during the paul george / russell westbrook years, which casts doubt on ownership not wanting to spend being the impetus for harden getting traded.


Right, Presti just made an all time bad decision
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#209 » by michaelm » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:05 am

BigGargamel wrote:
Special_Puppy wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:This is the same owner that refused to keep the KD/Westbrook/Harden trio together?
Will he be willing to spend to keep this team together because it will get expensive at some point. Chet. JDub. Shai. Hartenstein. Heck some team will throw money at Wiggins and Joe and Wallace. Will Dort be moved as he has a very friendly contract??
I mean this is looking far ahead but JDub and Chet extensions are looming. And their owner has broken up a potential championship core before…


You can come up with a bunch of scenarios where they only get 0-1 rings, but clearly they're better positioned to create a dynasty than any team ever


:lol:

Any team ever? Clearly? Let them get to a WCF at least first. You guys are so wild and reactionary with your takes on this board. It will take a LOT for any team to surpass the Warriors dynasty. Especially with the new CBA. Those rules were basically created to keep teams from being like the Warriors were. I don't think we will see a true dynasty unless the CBA rules change again.

You would think, after seeing this very same Thunder franchise fumble what looked like a sure fire dynasty a decade ago, people would learn to pump the breaks and let things play out a bit, but I guess not.

I am a GSW fan and enjoyed their run, but what they nor any other team I can recall had when approaching being a top team or the top team in the NBA was the huge number of draft picks OKC have. They can continue to revamp as a background thing while continuing to contend if their roster gets too expensive.
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#210 » by Special_Puppy » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:08 am

michaelm wrote:
BigGargamel wrote:
Special_Puppy wrote:
You can come up with a bunch of scenarios where they only get 0-1 rings, but clearly they're better positioned to create a dynasty than any team ever


:lol:

Any team ever? Clearly? Let them get to a WCF at least first. You guys are so wild and reactionary with your takes on this board. It will take a LOT for any team to surpass the Warriors dynasty. Especially with the new CBA. Those rules were basically created to keep teams from being like the Warriors were. I don't think we will see a true dynasty unless the CBA rules change again.

You would think, after seeing this very same Thunder franchise fumble what looked like a sure fire dynasty a decade ago, people would learn to pump the breaks and let things play out a bit, but I guess not.

I am a GSW fan and enjoyed their run, but what they nor any other team I can recall had when approaching being a top team or the top team in the NBA was the huge number of draft picks OKC. They can continue to revamp as a background thing while continuing to contend if their roster gets too expensive.


It’s also the youth thing that’s the main thing for me.
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#211 » by tmorgan » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:08 am

Special_Puppy wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:This is the same owner that refused to keep the KD/Westbrook/Harden trio together?
Will he be willing to spend to keep this team together because it will get expensive at some point. Chet. JDub. Shai. Hartenstein. Heck some team will throw money at Wiggins and Joe and Wallace. Will Dort be moved as he has a very friendly contract??
I mean this is looking far ahead but JDub and Chet extensions are looming. And their owner has broken up a potential championship core before…


You can come up with a bunch of scenarios where they only get 0-1 rings, but clearly they're better positioned to create a dynasty than any team ever


Well that’s definitely not true, because we have the results from the Russell Celtics mauling the entire league for over a decade and Jordan’s Bulls winning six in eight years (with him not playing and only partially playing the other two).

Those rings don’t come easy. Even given their current position, I think it’d be wiser to predict zero to two than any number above that. Too many factors, too much competition.
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#212 » by Special_Puppy » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:15 am

tmorgan wrote:
Special_Puppy wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:This is the same owner that refused to keep the KD/Westbrook/Harden trio together?
Will he be willing to spend to keep this team together because it will get expensive at some point. Chet. JDub. Shai. Hartenstein. Heck some team will throw money at Wiggins and Joe and Wallace. Will Dort be moved as he has a very friendly contract??
I mean this is looking far ahead but JDub and Chet extensions are looming. And their owner has broken up a potential championship core before…


You can come up with a bunch of scenarios where they only get 0-1 rings, but clearly they're better positioned to create a dynasty than any team ever


Well that’s definitely not true, because we have the results from the Russell Celtics mauling the entire league for over a decade and Jordan’s Bulls winning six in eight years (with him not playing and only partially playing the other two).

Those rings don’t come easy. Even given their current position, I think it’d be wiser to predict zero to two than any number above that. Too many factors, too much competition.


Those teams will probably have better results than OKC did just because a lot of things that needed to break their way did, but I don’t think they were better positioned than OKC is now.
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#213 » by Patches Perry » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:25 am

Thunder, in their current stage, are about as good as you could possibly be. Its still early though, gotta keep pushing, developing, taking the next steps.
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Post#214 » by Capn'O » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:34 am

If the season ended today the Thunder would have the best SRS of all time by almost a full point.

That's... insane.
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#215 » by slick_watts » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:38 am

Capn'O wrote:If the season ended today the Thunder would have the best SRS of all time by almost a full point.

That's... insane.


only the 2016 spurs and 1996, 1997 bulls have had a better net rating through 40 games.
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#216 » by MrBigShot » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:57 am

SGA is one of the most effortless scorers i've ever seen. He just sort of looks like he's doing practice drills, just casually gets to his spots, raises up for a 14-16 foot jumper, and nobody can do anything about it.
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#217 » by bbms » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:43 pm

Jaqua92 wrote:
bbms wrote:
Onlytimewilltel wrote:
:lol: Dude why you all up in every OKC thread talking about the Celtics? Let these young cats enjoy their good team, don’t be a damn grinch


read the thread title and you'll find the answer


Cart before the horse baby


unfortunately i don't have time to keep track of all celtics posters who are just like "they still have to make the finals to face us", like the celtics themselves were at the finals already.

i won't go down to historically great teams that missed finals, or even conference finals because of matchups and exploitative schemes that even the field.

if you want to see the thunder in consecutive nba finals from now on, its simple just ask adam silver to move them to the eastern conference.
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#218 » by stillgotgame » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:51 pm

Special_Puppy wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:This is the same owner that refused to keep the KD/Westbrook/Harden trio together?
Will he be willing to spend to keep this team together because it will get expensive at some point. Chet. JDub. Shai. Hartenstein. Heck some team will throw money at Wiggins and Joe and Wallace. Will Dort be moved as he has a very friendly contract??
I mean this is looking far ahead but JDub and Chet extensions are looming. And their owner has broken up a potential championship core before…


You can come up with a bunch of scenarios where they only get 0-1 rings, but clearly they're better positioned to create a dynasty than any team ever


Any team ever? :lol:

Hopefully they win a playoff series this year over a team that's better than the Zion-less Pels. Getting absolutely dominated by the Bucks in the Cup game was not a good indicator though. This team folds under pressure, SGA specifically. Didn't he get shutdown by his scrub cousin in the play-in the year before?
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#219 » by slick_watts » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:54 pm

stillgotgame wrote:
Special_Puppy wrote:
Infinite Llamas wrote:This is the same owner that refused to keep the KD/Westbrook/Harden trio together?
Will he be willing to spend to keep this team together because it will get expensive at some point. Chet. JDub. Shai. Hartenstein. Heck some team will throw money at Wiggins and Joe and Wallace. Will Dort be moved as he has a very friendly contract??
I mean this is looking far ahead but JDub and Chet extensions are looming. And their owner has broken up a potential championship core before…


You can come up with a bunch of scenarios where they only get 0-1 rings, but clearly they're better positioned to create a dynasty than any team ever


Any team ever? :lol:

Hopefully they win a playoff series this year over a team that's better than the Zion-less Pels. Getting absolutely dominated by the Bucks in the Cup game was not a good indicator though. This team folds under pressure, SGA specifically. Didn't he get shutdown by his scrub cousin in the play-in the year before?


i don't think anyone knows what 'better positioned' means.
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Re: Thunder is scary good 

Post#220 » by The Servant » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:09 pm

Capn'O wrote:If the season ended today the Thunder would have the best SRS of all time by almost a full point.

That's... insane.


Looking forward to getting Chet back as well. What a season, let's hope they do some damage in the post season.

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