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Post#241 » by The-Stallion70 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 1:10 am

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The-Stallion70 wrote:https://youtu.be/tlffwQCC2z4?si=jnCa7c2EVDTShdez

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This guy just isn't a team player. Its not surprising to me that another team wants to get rid of him.

Maybe if he went to a contending team he could probably be 6MOTY but on our squad we would likely enable him offensively and he would get his at the expense of everyone else.


23 pts, 5 assists,2 TO's, 50% from the field, 4-4 from the line, +4 in a loss...not seeing your point :lol:

Look, he's not SGA...what do you want for Cole and a late pick or so? :noway: We're still talking about a second unit upgrade, not a roster turnover. Why don't you do a similar, in-depth analysis of our players and see how they stack up?


If you cant pick up on what I'm saying then you don't know ball :lol:
California Gold wrote:This is extra because people hate the Lakers and their brand so much.

This trade wasn't some conspiracy - it was just a GM wanting AD bad enough where in most people's eyes he overpaid by a long shot to get him.
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Post#243 » by eyriq » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:31 am

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eyriq wrote:I'm firmly in the camp of trading JI, Cole, WCJ, and Jett. Trade them for what is the question. A starting center, a 3rd forward, and 4th guard is probably the answer.


And...does this mean you hate those guys? :banghead:

Not satisfied with Goga?

any suggested targets at those 3 spots?


I’ve been thinking about this. I definitely like Goga. I’m a firm member of Gogastan. But the starting center I want is… VOOCH. A Vooch/Goga big rotation will be nice.

Not sure about the rest.
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Post#244 » by The-Stallion70 » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:31 am

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Simons pls
California Gold wrote:This is extra because people hate the Lakers and their brand so much.

This trade wasn't some conspiracy - it was just a GM wanting AD bad enough where in most people's eyes he overpaid by a long shot to get him.
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Post#245 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:41 am

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Post#246 » by RichCollab » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:54 am

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Simons pls


He would fit right in. He is 0 - 8 through 3 tonight.
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Post#247 » by Idiosyncratic » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:56 am

BadMofoPimp wrote:Could always trade for DLo


He seems underrated at this point because of how bad LA fans tear their underperforming players apart. Last few years his numbers are not much different than Simons and Sexton. All of these small guards can be unplayable in certain games and especially the playoffs. Would offer cheap shooting and better passing than either. I would be fine with him for 2nds.

Not sure they would want to take Cole's salary though. Guess you could do like Gary, Caleb, CoJo and a 2nd or 2.
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Post#248 » by SOUL » Fri Jan 17, 2025 5:33 am

eyriq wrote:
Skybox wrote:
eyriq wrote:I'm firmly in the camp of trading JI, Cole, WCJ, and Jett. Trade them for what is the question. A starting center, a 3rd forward, and 4th guard is probably the answer.


And...does this mean you hate those guys? :banghead:

Not satisfied with Goga?

any suggested targets at those 3 spots?


I’ve been thinking about this. I definitely like Goga. I’m a firm member of Gogastan. But the starting center I want is… VOOCH. A Vooch/Goga big rotation will be nice.

Not sure about the rest.


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Post#249 » by RookieStar » Fri Jan 17, 2025 6:42 am

eyriq wrote:
Skybox wrote:
eyriq wrote:I'm firmly in the camp of trading JI, Cole, WCJ, and Jett. Trade them for what is the question. A starting center, a 3rd forward, and 4th guard is probably the answer.


And...does this mean you hate those guys? :banghead:

Not satisfied with Goga?

any suggested targets at those 3 spots?


I’ve been thinking about this. I definitely like Goga. I’m a firm member of Gogastan. But the starting center I want is… VOOCH. A Vooch/Goga big rotation will be nice.

Not sure about the rest.


Facts.... about Vooch.


Not really ready to include JI and Jett there though.
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Post#250 » by CarraT » Fri Jan 17, 2025 9:19 am

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Simons pls


He would fit right in. He is 0 - 8 through 3 tonight.


So whats his avergage this year? Why are you looking at one bad game? Do you really want to argue Simons is a bad shooter? :crazy:
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Post#251 » by drsd » Fri Jan 17, 2025 10:40 am

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ChatGPT says these are the players in the basic salary line as Anthony:
Here are the players from the specified teams (Bulls, Hornets, Jazz, Nets, Pelicans, Raptors, Trail Blazers, Wizards) with salaries in the $8M–$13M range for the 2024-25 season:

Herbert Jones (NOP) – $12,976,362
De'Anthony Melton (BRK) – $12,822,000
Kelly Olynyk (TOR) – $12,804,878
Josh Green (CHO) – $12,654,321
Richaun Holmes (WAS) – $12,648,321
Marvin Bagley III (WAS) – $12,500,000
Robert Williams (POR) – $12,428,571
Coby White (CHI) – $12,000,000
Brandon Miller (CHO) – $11,424,600
Alex Sarr (WAS) – $11,245,680
Matisse Thybulle (POR) – $11,025,000
Chris Boucher (TOR) – $10,810,000
Scoot Henderson (POR) – $10,259,160
Scottie Barnes (TOR) – $10,130,980
Jonas Valančiūnas (WAS) – $9,900,000
Jalen Smith (CHI) – $8,571,429
Josh Giddey (CHI) – $8,352,367
Cody Martin (CHO) – $8,120,000



I would think half of the players on this list would be more helpful for Orlando than Anthony. So WeltPark, make a trade!


EDIT:
I think that get-able priorities could be, Kelly Olynyk (TOR), Marvin Bagley III (WAS), Robert Williams (POR), Chris Boucher (TOR), and Jonas Valančiūnas (WAS).

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Post#252 » by RichCollab » Fri Jan 17, 2025 11:47 am

CarraT wrote:
RichCollab wrote:
The-Stallion70 wrote:Simons pls


He would fit right in. He is 0 - 8 through 3 tonight.


So whats his avergage this year? Why are you looking at one bad game? Do you really want to argue Simons is a bad shooter? :crazy:


He is practicing being a Magic player.
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Post#253 » by drsd » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:30 pm

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This is what chatGPT would do as Magic GM:

Key Tradeable Assets

Jonathan Isaac ($25M):
Injury history limits his availability, but his expiring contract is valuable for teams looking to clear cap space.
Gary Harris ($7.5M):
A veteran guard with solid defense and shooting. His contract is team-friendly and attractive in trades.
Cole Anthony ($12.9M):
A dynamic scorer and playmaker who may not be as essential if the Magic are committed to Jalen Suggs and Anthony Black.
Anthony Black ($7.6M) and Jett Howard ($5.3M):
Promising rookies, but their roles can be secondary to immediate upgrades.
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope ($22.8M):
A solid veteran, but Orlando may leverage him to acquire a more versatile player.


Trade Proposals
1. Buddy Hield (Indiana Pacers)

Contract: $18.6M (expiring)
Why? Hield's elite three-point shooting would open up the floor for Banchero and Wagner. His expiring deal preserves cap flexibility.

Proposed Trade:

Magic receive: Buddy Hield
Pacers receive: Jonathan Isaac + 2nd-round pick

Indiana gets a defensive specialist in Isaac with expiring money, while Orlando upgrades its perimeter shooting.
2. Bojan Bogdanović (Detroit Pistons)

Contract: $19.03M (expires in 2025-26, partially guaranteed)
Why? Bogdanović is a high-level scorer and shooter who could provide immediate offense alongside the Magic's young core.

Proposed Trade:

Magic receive: Bojan Bogdanović
Pistons receive: Kentavious Caldwell-Pope + Gary Harris

Orlando gains a scoring veteran, while Detroit gets an expiring contract and a solid guard in Harris.
3. Royce O’Neale (Brooklyn Nets)

Contract: $9.5M (expiring)
Why? A versatile 3-and-D wing who can guard multiple positions and shoot effectively from the perimeter.

Proposed Trade:

Magic receive: Royce O’Neale
Nets receive: Gary Harris + 2nd-round pick

Brooklyn adds backcourt depth, while Orlando bolsters its wing rotation.
4. Malik Beasley (Milwaukee Bucks)

Contract: $11.6M (expiring)
Why? Beasley is a capable shooter and scorer who could thrive in a secondary role off the bench for the Magic.

Proposed Trade:

Magic receive: Malik Beasley
Bucks receive: Cole Anthony

Orlando moves on from Anthony to balance the roster, while Milwaukee gains a dynamic young guard.



Why These Trades Work

Cap Flexibility: All proposed trades involve players on expiring or team-friendly deals, ensuring Orlando’s cap space is preserved for future moves.
Core Preservation: The untouchable players remain on the roster, maintaining continuity and long-term potential.
Immediate Fit: Acquired players address clear needs, such as shooting, spacing, and veteran leadership, without overloading any position.



Trades 3 and 4 are interesting, and the resultant Magic depth chart is quite good. The Magic still need a combo-big, but O’Neale and Beasley for Anthony, Harris, and a SRP is something that upgrades this roster.

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Post#254 » by Skybox » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:43 pm

Idiosyncratic wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Could always trade for DLo


He seems underrated at this point because of how bad LA fans tear their underperforming players apart. Last few years his numbers are not much different than Simons and Sexton. All of these small guards can be unplayable in certain games and especially the playoffs. Would offer cheap shooting and better passing than either. I would be fine with him for 2nds.

Not sure they would want to take Cole's salary though. Guess you could do like Gary, Caleb, CoJo and a 2nd or 2.


Stats-wise, DLo is right there…just like Poole :o

Two guys with terrible reps but appropriate skill sets…I think Simons and Sexton are better bets, personality-wise. I don’t just mean locker room, which DOES matter, but also BBIQ…but all of them deserve a look.
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Post#255 » by Skybox » Fri Jan 17, 2025 12:46 pm

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Alright Weltman, there’s your call list…

Find us that scoring playmaker next to AB and another rotation big, ideally one that can shoot, but even just a rim-protector would work if the second unit, unlike the starters, has some serious scoring from the backcourt.
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Post#256 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Jan 17, 2025 2:19 pm

Skybox wrote:
Idiosyncratic wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:Could always trade for DLo


He seems underrated at this point because of how bad LA fans tear their underperforming players apart. Last few years his numbers are not much different than Simons and Sexton. All of these small guards can be unplayable in certain games and especially the playoffs. Would offer cheap shooting and better passing than either. I would be fine with him for 2nds.

Not sure they would want to take Cole's salary though. Guess you could do like Gary, Caleb, CoJo and a 2nd or 2.


Stats-wise, DLo is right there…just like Poole :o

Two guys with terrible reps but appropriate skill sets…I think Simons and Sexton are better bets, personality-wise. I don’t just mean locker room, which DOES matter, but also BBIQ…but all of them deserve a look.


I would have to think Magic brass would not mortgage their depth for Simons or Sexton as the asking price is most likely too high. DLo could be had cheap. If a cheap deal doesn't present itself, the Magic wont make any trades to the dismay of "But, I wanna win now!" fans.
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Post#257 » by Skybox » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:46 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
Skybox wrote:
Idiosyncratic wrote:
He seems underrated at this point because of how bad LA fans tear their underperforming players apart. Last few years his numbers are not much different than Simons and Sexton. All of these small guards can be unplayable in certain games and especially the playoffs. Would offer cheap shooting and better passing than either. I would be fine with him for 2nds.

Not sure they would want to take Cole's salary though. Guess you could do like Gary, Caleb, CoJo and a 2nd or 2.


Stats-wise, DLo is right there…just like Poole :o

Two guys with terrible reps but appropriate skill sets…I think Simons and Sexton are better bets, personality-wise. I don’t just mean locker room, which DOES matter, but also BBIQ…but all of them deserve a look.


I would have to think Magic brass would not mortgage their depth for Simons or Sexton as the asking price is most likely too high. DLo could be had cheap. If a cheap deal doesn't present itself, the Magic wont make any trades to the dismay of "But, I wanna win now!" fans.


What do you consider too high for one of them? (someone else suggested bringing the same offer to both and seeing who's willing)
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Post#258 » by Skybox » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:49 pm

BadMofoPimp wrote:
Skybox wrote:
Idiosyncratic wrote:
He seems underrated at this point because of how bad LA fans tear their underperforming players apart. Last few years his numbers are not much different than Simons and Sexton. All of these small guards can be unplayable in certain games and especially the playoffs. Would offer cheap shooting and better passing than either. I would be fine with him for 2nds.

Not sure they would want to take Cole's salary though. Guess you could do like Gary, Caleb, CoJo and a 2nd or 2.


Stats-wise, DLo is right there…just like Poole :o

Two guys with terrible reps but appropriate skill sets…I think Simons and Sexton are better bets, personality-wise. I don’t just mean locker room, which DOES matter, but also BBIQ…but all of them deserve a look.


I would have to think Magic brass would not mortgage their depth for Simons or Sexton as the asking price is most likely too high. DLo could be had cheap. If a cheap deal doesn't present itself, the Magic wont make any trades to the dismay of "But, I wanna win now!" fans.


I resent that label.

I'm a "I wanna win EVER" fan

or a "I wanna be able to beat good teams someday in a playoff series fan"

or "I wanna score 100pts sometimes fan"
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Post#259 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:52 pm

Skybox wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
Skybox wrote:
Stats-wise, DLo is right there…just like Poole :o

Two guys with terrible reps but appropriate skill sets…I think Simons and Sexton are better bets, personality-wise. I don’t just mean locker room, which DOES matter, but also BBIQ…but all of them deserve a look.


I would have to think Magic brass would not mortgage their depth for Simons or Sexton as the asking price is most likely too high. DLo could be had cheap. If a cheap deal doesn't present itself, the Magic wont make any trades to the dismay of "But, I wanna win now!" fans.


I resent that label.

I'm a "I wanna win EVER" fan

or a "I wanna be able to beat good teams someday in a playoff series fan"

or "I wanna score 100pts sometimes fan"


All will happen in the over the next 2-3 years. For now, enjoy the development of getting to that point.
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Post#260 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Jan 17, 2025 4:54 pm

Skybox wrote:
BadMofoPimp wrote:
Skybox wrote:
Stats-wise, DLo is right there…just like Poole :o

Two guys with terrible reps but appropriate skill sets…I think Simons and Sexton are better bets, personality-wise. I don’t just mean locker room, which DOES matter, but also BBIQ…but all of them deserve a look.


I would have to think Magic brass would not mortgage their depth for Simons or Sexton as the asking price is most likely too high. DLo could be had cheap. If a cheap deal doesn't present itself, the Magic wont make any trades to the dismay of "But, I wanna win now!" fans.


What do you consider too high for one of them? (someone else suggested bringing the same offer to both and seeing who's willing)


I really don't think the Magic brass are considering Sexton or Simons. They want team role players, not players who think they should be starting.
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