Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas - Trade Deadline 2/6/25 - 2:00 p.m. CDT

[ShootingtheJ]

Khris has played less minutes than Delon Wright and we're nearly half way through the season. Jimmy might not be the answer, but neither is burying your head in the sand about Khris' ability to stay healthy.

There is also the angle of moving off his contract for next year. Considering how little he can play in the regular season now that’s worth something

What's it worth? Doesn't open a dime of cap room.

[soxperry]

Khris has played less minutes than Delon Wright and we're nearly half way through the season. Jimmy might not be the answer, but neither is burying your head in the sand about Khris' ability to stay healthy.

There is also the angle of moving off his contract for next year. Considering how little he can play in the regular season now that’s worth something

What's it worth? Doesn't open a dime of cap room.

i think it at least opens up the tax payer MLE, right? that's not nothing. but yeah. i'm still not interested in giving away Khris for a TPMLE guy.

[BroncoBuck]

MVP level Kawhi sat out some regular season games for a stacked Toronto team that got some incredibly lucky breaks and ended up winning the Finals.

That’s the outlier. Look at his career since then. That’s where we are with Khris, and he’s nowhere near as talented as Kawhi. It’s not a formula for success.

Bud caught flack for not playing Giannis and Khris more minutes when we were an absolute freight train steam rolling teams. I just don’t see the solution to this team’s problems being double Khris’ workload 2 months from now.

[-Jragon-]

Khris has played less minutes than Delon Wright and we're nearly half way through the season. Jimmy might not be the answer, but neither is burying your head in the sand about Khris' ability to stay healthy.

There is also the angle of moving off his contract for next year. Considering how little he can play in the regular season now that’s worth something

What's it worth? Doesn't open a dime of cap room.

Woahhhhh.... wait man.. He's talking about the whole trade and then if Butler opts out.. right? Our only 2 big salaries next year are Dame and Giannis... everyone else is on that youngster deal. If Butler gets extended/opts in then yeah that's different.

[BigO]

The death of the Bucks is grossly exagerrated in this thread.

The Bucks talent is understated and every other team's assets are overstated.

And these two statements are still true:

A healthy Khris is still a great asset to a championship team.
A diminished Khris has hardly any trade value, so he's not going to bring a stud back.

[jimmybones]

Surprised how many on the Trade Board think the same kind of Jimmy scenario we've been discussing could go down:

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2431843

This is such a good point from that thread that I don't see anyone mentioning here:

The drama is the only reason you're getting him, cheaply. A player of his caliber should be going for 3-5 first round picks. As to the championship argument, had Jimmy played alongside Giannis, do you really think he'd be ringless?

For all the concern about his personality, a lot of people seem to be ignoring the fact that he's REALLY good and we're not even in the stratosphere of having a chance to acquire him without there being drama to compromise his value. He's a distressed asset, understandably, but completely unrelated to his skill level and needle moving ability on the court.

It's a risk, it could blow up, but that risk comes with massive upside. Like back to back championship type upside.

Hell, I'm not even saying I'd do it but I can't deny the allure

[ShootingtheJ]

There is also the angle of moving off his contract for next year. Considering how little he can play in the regular season now that’s worth something

What's it worth? Doesn't open a dime of cap room.

Woahhhhh.... wait man.. He's talking about the whole trade and then if Butler opts out.. right? Our only 2 big salaries next year are Dame and Giannis... everyone else is on that youngster deal. If Butler gets extended/opts in then yeah that's different.

You don't open cap room until you drop the cap hold on Brook, but that's another player to replace. Giannis and Dame take 70% of the cap, no matter what the cap is set at. With minimum cap holds, there's isn't enough to get anyone actually good. This FA class sucks too.

[jimmybones]

The amazingly intimidating Playoff Jimmy has shot 42% from the floor in his last 3 playoff series.

He's also been the most important part of willing rosters that no business going to the NBA Finals, to the NBA Finals.

I can respect anyone who would pass on the risk based on fear of him tearing up the locker room but please let's not pretend Giannis-Jimmy-Dame does not instantly catapult us into real contender status on the court.

[ReasonablySober]

Yea, 35 year old players who play 60% of their team's games always fetch 3-5 first rounders.

[EasyE31]

Looking at the 9 man rotation with Jimmy it looks like this..

Lillard (36)/Rollins (12)
Green (20)/Trent (20)/Rollins (8)
Butler (36)/Jackson (12)
Giannis (20)/Prince (20)/Jackson (8)
Lopez (32)/Giannis (16)

What’s not to like? You have your Big 3 that makes sense, Brook is still a reliable C and I have all Green, Trent, Rollins, AJJ, Prince battling for minutes.

Brook is unplayable against a number of the top teams. No other bigs. Prince playing 20 mpg. That team is significantly worse than the one we play now, and we possibly gave up a future 1st for this mess.

Huh? Lopez is currently unplayable against a number of the top teams and the only option is to put in Bobby which basically everyone agrees isn't a great answer. Prince is already playing 20+ minutes per game as it stands. How is the team worse with Jimmy when the two things you are worried about are already true?

[BigO]

Yea, 35 year old players who play 60% of their team's games always fetch 3-5 first rounders.

This is what posters don't understand. 76ers didn't get much at all in return for Butler. And that was 5 years ago when he was better.

[soxperry]

Yea, 35 year old players who play 60% of their team's games always fetch 3-5 first rounders.

This is what posters don't understand. 76ers didn't get much at all in return for Butler. And that was 5 years ago when he was better.

But that is disingenuous to the circumstances.

Butler was not going to re sign there so they were going to lose him for nothing. It was not a trade but a sign and trade so this is not the same as most trades

[Daver]

What's it worth? Doesn't open a dime of cap room.

Woahhhhh.... wait man.. He's talking about the whole trade and then if Butler opts out.. right? Our only 2 big salaries next year are Dame and Giannis... everyone else is on that youngster deal. If Butler gets extended/opts in then yeah that's different.

You don't open cap room until you drop the cap hold on Brook, but that's another player to replace. Giannis and Dame take 70% of the cap, no matter what the cap is set at. With minimum cap holds, there's isn't enough to get anyone actually good. This FA class sucks too.

How can everyone even god be wrong but you.Dude i just heard this on nba network that if the nucks trade patty C to detroit they would go under the 2nd apron n thus get their MLE back then they said that if bucks get butler n he walks that would open up 23 million in cap space n if brook walks would open 40 million.Thats the 4th time i heard the same story from 3 different basketball guys

[mlloyd10]

One player im really intrigue with is Walker Kessler - If we trade Bobby and or Brock, i wonder what the cost will be to get him

[Karsenmitsche]

I think it’s simple for the bucks. They’re willing to do it if 31 1st not involved. Khris+BP probably not enough for Miami. Don’t see it getting done unless it’s the only offer and they go with it.

[RiotPunch]

One player im really intrigue with is Walker Kessler - If we trade Bobby and or Brock, i wonder what the cost will be to get him

The Brock Ness Monster is untouchable.

[emunney]

Yea, 35 year old players who play 60% of their team's games always fetch 3-5 first rounders.

Probably depends on the firsts. If it's the 3 **** picks from OKC's war chest, it's not saying much. It also bares mentioning that you have to write off multiple layers of drama to get to that point. It's not like he's demanding a trade behind closed doors and otherwise is a good teammate.

[emunney]

Woahhhhh.... wait man.. He's talking about the whole trade and then if Butler opts out.. right? Our only 2 big salaries next year are Dame and Giannis... everyone else is on that youngster deal. If Butler gets extended/opts in then yeah that's different.

You don't open cap room until you drop the cap hold on Brook, but that's another player to replace. Giannis and Dame take 70% of the cap, no matter what the cap is set at. With minimum cap holds, there's isn't enough to get anyone actually good. This FA class sucks too.

Is that true? Don't know this CBA as well but I don't think it re-indexes to the cap every year. It's just the first year value of a max extension isn't really known until the cap's set for that year.

[Big Dog Yank]

One player im really intrigue with is Walker Kessler - If we trade Bobby and or Brock, i wonder what the cost will be to get him

3-5 first rounders

[BroncoBuck]

One player im really intrigue with is Walker Kessler - If we trade Bobby and or Brock, i wonder what the cost will be to get him

The Brock Ness Monster is untouchable.

Advanced stat rebounding wunderkind.

Hollinger had to be going bananas when the Bucks got him and Ekpe Udoh.