2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2

Son Goku 25 · Post #1241 » by **Son Goku 25** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 12:54 am

Psubs wrote:If the Raptors end up adding Flemming and both Ivisic brothers I wouldn't be mad.

Outside top 4, trade it with the Por 2nd for #10, #17(Atl), #40

#10 Flemming
#17 Tomislav Ivisic
#40 Zvonimir Ivisic

All the bigs that can shoot the 3.

PG IQ - Shead - Jakobe
SG Dick - Ochai - Jakobe
SF Barrett - Mogbo/Battle
PF Scottie - Flemming - Chomche
C Poeltl - Tomislav - Zvonimir

LOL I hope for your sake the raptors draft Ivisic brothers my guy has been posting about them every other post.

Yallbecrazy · Post #1242 » by **Yallbecrazy** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:07 am

Son Goku 25 wrote:
Psubs wrote:If the Raptors end up adding Flemming and both Ivisic brothers I wouldn't be mad.

Outside top 4, trade it with the Por 2nd for #10, #17(Atl), #40

#10 Flemming
#17 Tomislav Ivisic
#40 Zvonimir Ivisic

All the bigs that can shoot the 3.

PG IQ - Shead - Jakobe
SG Dick - Ochai - Jakobe
SF Barrett - Mogbo/Battle
PF Scottie - Flemming - Chomche
C Poeltl - Tomislav - Zvonimir

LOL I hope for your sake the raptors draft Ivisic brothers my guy has been posting about them every other post.

Watched Ivisic one game and he seemed allergic to rebounding and very soft. Reminds me of Bargnani.

LoveMyRaps · Post #1243 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:11 am

Yallbecrazy wrote:
Son Goku 25 wrote:
Psubs wrote:If the Raptors end up adding Flemming and both Ivisic brothers I wouldn't be mad.

Outside top 4, trade it with the Por 2nd for #10, #17(Atl), #40

#10 Flemming
#17 Tomislav Ivisic
#40 Zvonimir Ivisic

All the bigs that can shoot the 3.

PG IQ - Shead - Jakobe
SG Dick - Ochai - Jakobe
SF Barrett - Mogbo/Battle
PF Scottie - Flemming - Chomche
C Poeltl - Tomislav - Zvonimir

LOL I hope for your sake the raptors draft Ivisic brothers my guy has been posting about them every other post.

Watched Ivisic one game and he seemed allergic to rebounding and very soft. Reminds me of Bargnani.

Which one?

Hot take - I'm a bigger fan of Tom and believe he'll be a better NBA player.

RoteSchroder · Post #1244 » by **RoteSchroder** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:13 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
Son Goku 25 wrote:

LOL I hope for your sake the raptors draft Ivisic brothers my guy has been posting about them every other post.

Watched Ivisic one game and he seemed allergic to rebounding and very soft. Reminds me of Bargnani.

Which one?

Hot take - I'm a bigger fan of Tom and believe he'll be a better NBA player.

not a hot take, I think everyone and scouts all believe that

Zvon is a bit heavy footed, high center of gravity, worse awareness, worse feel for the game, less skilled overall, etc.

I wouldn't draft Tom in the first round though

Psubs · Post #1245 » by **Psubs** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:43 am

Yallbecrazy wrote:
Son Goku 25 wrote:
Psubs wrote:If the Raptors end up adding Flemming and both Ivisic brothers I wouldn't be mad.

Outside top 4, trade it with the Por 2nd for #10, #17(Atl), #40

#10 Flemming
#17 Tomislav Ivisic
#40 Zvonimir Ivisic

All the bigs that can shoot the 3.

PG IQ - Shead - Jakobe
SG Dick - Ochai - Jakobe
SF Barrett - Mogbo/Battle
PF Scottie - Flemming - Chomche
C Poeltl - Tomislav - Zvonimir

LOL I hope for your sake the raptors draft Ivisic brothers my guy has been posting about them every other post.

Watched Ivisic one game and he seemed allergic to rebounding and very soft. Reminds me of Bargnani.

Block shots and shoot 3's! C's platoon anyways.

Tomislav rebounds more but blocks less. Both shoot the 3 well with confidence. This kind of prospect is dang good end of 1st and 2nd round.

Psubs · Post #1246 » by **Psubs** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:45 am

LoveMyRaps wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
Son Goku 25 wrote:

LOL I hope for your sake the raptors draft Ivisic brothers my guy has been posting about them every other post.

Watched Ivisic one game and he seemed allergic to rebounding and very soft. Reminds me of Bargnani.

Which one?

Hot take - I'm a bigger fan of Tom and believe he'll be a better NBA player.

Tomislav reminds me more like Vucevic. Zvonimir seems like the 7'2 heavy footed version of Chris Boucher.

Psubs · Post #1247 » by **Psubs** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:48 am

Son Goku 25 wrote:
Psubs wrote:If the Raptors end up adding Flemming and both Ivisic brothers I wouldn't be mad.

Outside top 4, trade it with the Por 2nd for #10, #17(Atl), #40

#10 Flemming
#17 Tomislav Ivisic
#40 Zvonimir Ivisic

All the bigs that can shoot the 3.

PG IQ - Shead - Jakobe
SG Dick - Ochai - Jakobe
SF Barrett - Mogbo/Battle
PF Scottie - Flemming - Chomche
C Poeltl - Tomislav - Zvonimir

LOL I hope for your sake the raptors draft Ivisic brothers my guy has been posting about them every other post.

Last year I was all in on Chomche and would've even been okay had we drafted him at #19 (though wanted Tristan DaSilva). Then I was cool with him at #31 or #45, but happy they got him with #57.

S.W.A.N · Post #1248 » by **S.W.A.N** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 3:53 am

billy_hoyle wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:
ItsDanger wrote:Ace bailey's BPM is above 5 suddenly after a few good games. Shows you the flaws in this stat: risks of small sample, and these are young/improving players.

Nah it doesn't show a flaw in the stat. He has improved his play and it's measured by the stat. People should make decisions based on available information at the time. Players can improve and also regress.

The stat is lagging. How is that not a flaw?

Extremely well regarded High school prospect, starts collegiate career with an injury. Goes on to play raw stat filled basketball on low efficiency for a team that isn't winning. Eye test is still there, as he's able to do things and hits shots that are ++ degree of difficulty. His ++ body is projectable (i.e he has great dimensions for his skill set, and looks like he will add lean muscle).

The stat was unable to predict that he would go from 0.3 BPM to over 5 in a few weeks.

As others have said, it is not predictive on small sample sizes.

If the draft was held at the 1/3rd mark of the NCAA season, you would have declared him almost certain bust and a 100% do not draft. Which is your stance from last month.

Let's be honest though. at the 1/3 mark he was hot garbage. Bad processing, bad shot selection, bad rebounding, bad defense, zero passing.

The fact that most people still had him top 5 or top 10 for the ones who really dropped his was pretty warranted.
It is great that Ace is playing far better now and is proving that he's one of the top 4 guys in this draft.

When you are 'mocking' or guessing where prospects should go production absolutely matters. Harper Flagg Yak and Demin all looked far superior in the first 10 games or so. Since then Harper has been consistent, Yak has been consistent. Flagg and Ace have shown improvement while guys like Demin VJ and CMB have shown that the hype might not have been warranted.

Still plenty of time for adjustments and guys will fall and rise as we get more data points.

TNRaps4life · Post #1249 » by **TNRaps4life** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:34 am

Read on Twitter

?s=19

Psubs · Post #1250 » by **Psubs** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 6:13 am

TNRaps4life wrote:

Read on Twitter
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Do you see why he shoots such a low% ? :reporter:

It's all arms. He like extends his legs then his arms follow. Also he should bend his knees more, maybe that will get him to flow more?

HumbleRen · Post #1251 » by **HumbleRen** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 6:47 am

Psubs wrote:
TNRaps4life wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=19

Do you see why he shoots such a low% ?

It's all arms. He like extends his legs then his arms follow. Also he should bend his knees more, maybe that will get him to flow more?

He has the same issue that Scottie has. A very stiff lower body. It’s why he doesn’t have much rim pressure with a live dribble.

Thaddy · Post #1252 » by **Thaddy** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 10:57 am

Sergio De Larrea is an under rated PG prospect I could see dropping to the 2nd round. He's a lower tier prospect in Europe and they are generally under scouted. He's 6'5, shoots very well, passes well, and he has long arms (defensive upside). We're a little loaded at PG but I hope we go high potential opposed to need (C).

Jstock12 · Post #1253 » by **Jstock12** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 11:05 am

Knueppel finally starts to justify the good shooter label. Shooting 47% from three on 7.5 attempts in his last 6 games. Looks to be an above average defender and above average playmaker too. Jack of all trades / glue guy type. Him going back into top4 conversation wouldn't shock me at this point.

Yallbecrazy · Post #1254 » by **Yallbecrazy** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:05 pm

Psubs wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
Yallbecrazy wrote:
Watched Ivisic one game and he seemed allergic to rebounding and very soft. Reminds me of Bargnani.

Which one?

Hot take - I'm a bigger fan of Tom and believe he'll be a better NBA player.

Tomislav reminds me more like Vucevic. Zvonimir seems like the 7'2 heavy footed version of Chris Boucher.

I watched two full Tennessee games this year and both were against the Ivisic guys, I think I'm thinking more of the Arkansas one since I look and Tomislav got 12 boards in the other game. Seemed like when Zvonimir was on the floor Tennessee was scoring at will inside and getting tons of offensive rebounds. He would appear and use his size on the guy he was guarding and contest shots well, but zero help or rotation and often his guy would get position on the offensive glass.

Offensive rebounds in the UT Arkansas game were 19 to 6 and 16 to 10 in the Illinois game.

WuTang_CMB · Post #1255 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:21 pm

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/41662748/2025-nba-draft-big-board-rankings-top-100-prospects-players

Jstock12 · Post #1256 » by **Jstock12** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:29 pm

Yallbecrazy wrote:
Psubs wrote:
LoveMyRaps wrote:
Which one?

Hot take - I'm a bigger fan of Tom and believe he'll be a better NBA player.

Tomislav reminds me more like Vucevic. Zvonimir seems like the 7'2 heavy footed version of Chris Boucher.

I watched two full Tennessee games this year and both were against the Ivisic guys, I think I'm thinking more of the Arkansas one since I look and Tomislav got 12 boards in the other game. Seemed like when Zvonimir was on the floor Tennessee was scoring at will inside and getting tons of offensive rebounds. He would appear and use his size on the guy he was guarding and contest shots well, but zero help or rotation and often his guy would get position on the offensive glass.

Offensive rebounds in the UT Arkansas game were 19 to 6 and 16 to 10 in the Illinois game.

Tomislav's court vision and passing are elite. I know he's only at 1.8 apg now, but some of the passes he makes are absurd. I think that skillset could be unlocked even more in the NBA. Although he has some limitations closer to the basket.

Brinbe · Post #1257 » by **Brinbe** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 1:53 pm

Will have Alabama-Kentucky, Auburn-Georgia, SC-Oklahoma, Duke-BC to watch today and Illinois-MSU tomorrow. Rutgers-PSU on Monday.

ArthurVandelay · Post #1258 » by **ArthurVandelay** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:39 pm

TNRaps4life wrote:

Read on Twitter
?s=19

He’s my guy!

Loving he’s working on one of his greatest areas of concerns right after a game

Jerry Lucas · Post #1259 » by **Jerry Lucas** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 2:45 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/41662748/2025-nba-draft-big-board-rankings-top-100-prospects-players

Damn, basically all the prospects I've bee high on are rising. I've been hoping we can also get a nice prospect who falls with the Portland SRP too.

TimeForChange · Post #1260 » by **TimeForChange** » Sat Jan 18, 2025 4:30 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/41662748/2025-nba-draft-big-board-rankings-top-100-prospects-players

https://archive.ph/KgvrZ

1. Flagg
2. Harper
3. Bailey
4. Edgecombe
5. Jakucionis