Why can't Banchero uplift this team like Franz could?

[tiderulz]

We are playing much better teams during this stretch, sure but I am pissed off after losing by 30 points for the second game in a row. We are missing a ton of guys, yeah but still I don't think we should lose by 30 points to other good teams, if Banchero and some of our supporting cast are really quite as good as we've been led to believe.

Banchero looks like he plays the game like KD but he's the not the shooter KD is. He plays it like a tall jumpshooter, he doesn't appear to have the same blow-by ability as Franz and is not the same athlete.

Franz was honestly looking like the best player we've had since Dwight, averaging 25, 6 and 6 over 20+ games. Everybody was getting involved, he was scoring from all over the floor and distributing.

Is Paolo really a "three-level" scorer? He doesn't appear to beat his guy and get all the way to the rim very often.

completely agree. i mean, who cares if he was out 2 months and is just playing his 4th game, playing with a PG with 0 assists, a rookie at SF, a team that shot 15% from 3. Banchero should absolutely be doing more.

[basketballRob]

We are playing much better teams during this stretch, sure but I am pissed off after losing by 30 points for the second game in a row. We are missing a ton of guys, yeah but still I don't think we should lose by 30 points to other good teams, if Banchero and some of our supporting cast are really quite as good as we've been led to believe.

Banchero looks like he plays the game like KD but he's the not the shooter KD is. He plays it like a tall jumpshooter, he doesn't appear to have the same blow-by ability as Franz and is not the same athlete.

Franz was honestly looking like the best player we've had since Dwight, averaging 25, 6 and 6 over 20+ games. Everybody was getting involved, he was scoring from all over the floor and distributing.

Is Paolo really a "three-level" scorer? He doesn't appear to beat his guy and get all the way to the rim very often.

completely agree. i mean, who cares if he was out 2 months and is just playing his 4th game, and a PG with 0 assists, a rookie at SF, a team that shot 15% from 3. Banchero should absolutely be doing more.

Banchero is nowhere near 100% yet.

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[BadMofoPimp]

Magic struggled for a few games when Paolo first went out and Franz was lead, so I expected struggles until the team gets the new chemistry.

[JBSouthpaw]

Just to be clear…Paolo is a freakin’ STAR. ZERO debate.

Tyus Jones probably kills him on advanced efficiency stats…but that tells you how limited they are

Tyus is near the bottom in defensive analytics, and his off is barely a plus.

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I meant in his whole life

So you mean, Tyus calls his Mom everyday and Paolo doesn't?
PB leaves dirty undies in the bathroom, Tyus doesn't?

Yeah, maybe in the whole life, Tyus is better. But on the bball court, come on man.....

[Skybox]

Tyus is near the bottom in defensive analytics, and his off is barely a plus.

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I meant in his whole life

So you mean, Tyus calls his Mom everyday and Paolo doesn't?
PB leaves dirty undies in the bathroom, Tyus doesn't?

Yeah, maybe in the whole life, Tyus is better. But on the bball court, come on man.....

Good one …whatever you’re even talking about

Just jump right in there

[The-Stallion70]

Magic struggled for a few games when Paolo first went out and Franz was lead, so I expected struggles until the team gets the new chemistry.

Thing is our offense and spacing are even worse now with Goga starting and no Mo. I think Management will try to make a trade to make up for the loss of Mo.

I'm not sure this group will have much of a chance to develop chemistry.

[zaymon]

Franz is much smarter and faster decision maker, while Paolo is more of a scorer.
Franz is more of a Draymond/Curry engine player while Banchero is more of a Durant turbo player.
Both work well together but i think longterm Wagner is more important and impactful.

[The-Stallion70]

Tyus is near the bottom in defensive analytics, and his off is barely a plus.

PB leaves dirty undies in the bathroom, Tyus doesn't?

Holllup Analytics cover this now?

[Idiosyncratic]

Team is way more hurt now, they also seemed to beat a lot of bad teams when Paolo was out.

That being said even last year when everyone was crying about Franz's 3 shooting he was more efficient than Paolo on offense while also being a much better defender. Seriously the defense is not close between the two.

I think Paolo has more potential, but not sure he's better now. There definitely is not the gap some people seem to think there is.

[Blue_and_Whte]

It’s been FOUR games…

[KillMonger]

Think I remember Franz having more bodies to work with and an easier part of the schedule......not too hard to understand

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I addressed this in the OP, also not hard to understand

What IS hard to understand is how you somehow still missed that

then is this some kind of catharsis exercise? if you know then....why.....you know what never mind, let me mind my business

[RichCollab]

It’s completely different circumstances.

I’m glad both Paolo and Franz attack the game differently. Why does one have to be better?

Let’s get healthy. Don’t forget playoff Paolo. He did legit top 10 player things.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

It’s been 4 games since he’s been back and Paolo has been playing with 7 other guys while Franz had 14. Yeah, let’s pile on Paolo.

[Skybox]

Every thread's analysis shouldn't be presumed to be based on the game from the night before...I, for one, discount everything we're seeing from all of these 'extras' in any comments or trades I suggest...in the same vein, I'm also not suddenly convinced that Cole is a stud

[RichCollab]

Every thread's analysis shouldn't be presumed to be based on the game from the night before...I, for one, discount everything we're seeing from all of these 'extras' in any comments or trades I suggest...in the same vein, I'm also not suddenly convinced that Cole is a stud

Sexton and Simons are “studs”?

[The-Stallion70]

Every thread's analysis shouldn't be presumed to be based on the game from the night before...I, for one, discount everything we're seeing from all of these 'extras' in any comments or trades I suggest...in the same vein, I'm also not suddenly convinced that Cole is a stud

Youre still largely missing the point. The point is that I don't think we should ever lose by 30 two games in a row no matter who we're playing if we have PB available considering how he's regarded.

[Skybox]

Every thread's analysis shouldn't be presumed to be based on the game from the night before...I, for one, discount everything we're seeing from all of these 'extras' in any comments or trades I suggest...in the same vein, I'm also not suddenly convinced that Cole is a stud

Youre still largely missing the point. The point is that I don't think we should ever lose by 30 two games in a row no matter who we're playing if we have PB available considering how he's regarded.

Someday, when you make a point - I'll get it.

I was responding to the idea that we're piling on Paolo for what he's done or not done in the few games he's played this week and not on his overall development/body of work. Sorry my point wasn't clear enough.

[Skybox]

Every thread's analysis shouldn't be presumed to be based on the game from the night before...I, for one, discount everything we're seeing from all of these 'extras' in any comments or trades I suggest...in the same vein, I'm also not suddenly convinced that Cole is a stud

Sexton and Simons are “studs”?

It may have actually been you that said "Cole is back, baby"

Everything's relative, but yeah - if you can AVERAGE over 20ppg and/or 40+% from 3 for an entire season in the NBA and do it multiple times before you hit 25 years old...Yeah, you're a stud.

Not a Star or a complete player, but yeah...that's pretty badass and not a once a month fluke right out of "Rudy"

[Rainwater]

I feel context means nothing to OP. Franz played a softer/easier schedule, played with a healthier team, and wasn’t on a mins restriction. These are not the privileges that Paolo had.

[Rainwater]

Every thread's analysis shouldn't be presumed to be based on the game from the night before...I, for one, discount everything we're seeing from all of these 'extras' in any comments or trades I suggest...in the same vein, I'm also not suddenly convinced that Cole is a stud

Youre still largely missing the point. The point is that I don't think we should ever lose by 30 two games in a row no matter who we're playing if we have PB available considering how he's regarded.

Even your larger point is erroneous. Paolo is currently on a mins restriction, playing with the C-squad, and just played two of the best teams in the league (one of which just won the title last year).

It’s easy to play a team like Brooklyn multiple times, with 3 other starters, while playing 32 mins and say Franz leads the team better. Context matters man.

And when Paolo initially went down the Magic lost 4 straight including two blowouts against Dallas and OKC.