Official 2024-2025 Magic Trade ideas thread continued

[BadMofoPimp]

Maybe…neither of us know…but years of relative inactivity, questionable re-ups, and glaring holes makes me lean one way. Presti and other contenders seem to find guys quickly & make decisive moves when they have a need.

Almost the entire NBA rarely make trades. This isn't NBA2k where teams make trades constantly. For all we know, every team is asking outrageous prices for players thus the Magic don't bite. In addition, this team wasn't built to contend this year, so no trade is needed. The Magic are intending to develop players and that is exactly what they are doing. Give it 2-3 years. I read a few articles where the Magic are conserving cap space due to having 3 near max players on the cap in 2 years once Paolo gets paid. They want to make sure they don't mess that up making panic moves like fans think should happen. Good thing armchair GM's do not run NBA teams.

Panic, armchair, 2K…same old cliche excuses…the contenders & tankers make trades every year (with each other)

“Not contending for a title this year” is an absolutely flaccid reason not to improve your team…like you’re going to jump from A to Z when you flip a switch. Not how it works in life or NBA

Then, I reckon 90% of the NBA don't follow your ideas except a few contenders. Funny how just about every GM doesn't do what you think they should do. Not how it works in life or NBA. Just don't be surprised if the Magic make zero moves or only a minor bench player move.

[eyriq]

Jonathan Isaac
Wendell Carter
Gary Harris
Cole Anthony
Caleb Houstan

Envision it’s June or July. Build 1 or 2 trades out of those names that land this roster anything better than what those guys provide on a bi-weekly basis.

You will find a ton of players that are not only better, fit better with the core, but actually play basketball and are reliable.

I’d even waive some of these guys to be honest. They aren’t good 50-70% of the time and make everything more difficult than needed.

Exactly this. TRADE.THESE.PLAYERS.

Now granted these are mid-level moves that won't transform the team, our trajectory is determined by Paolo, Franz, and Suggs. These moves though would help optimize roleplayers around Paolo, Franz, and Suggs, though.

[T-Cat]

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[Husky1]

Jonathan Isaac
Wendell Carter
Gary Harris
Cole Anthony
Caleb Houstan

Envision it’s June or July. Build 1 or 2 trades out of those names that land this roster anything better than what those guys provide on a bi-weekly basis.

You will find a ton of players that are not only better, fit better with the core, but actually play basketball and are reliable.

I’d even waive some of these guys to be honest. They aren’t good 50-70% of the time and make everything more difficult than needed.

taking out trade eligibility etc, you could argue every team that would acquire these players would not be mad to waive them. They are that bad . Sucks we have left it tis long to trade most of these guys cos now we have to attach picks to them.

[Skybox]

Jonathan Isaac
Wendell Carter
Gary Harris
Cole Anthony
Caleb Houstan

Envision it’s June or July. Build 1 or 2 trades out of those names that land this roster anything better than what those guys provide on a bi-weekly basis.

You will find a ton of players that are not only better, fit better with the core, but actually play basketball and are reliable.

I’d even waive some of these guys to be honest. They aren’t good 50-70% of the time and make everything more difficult than needed.

It’s just gets tiring putting together solid deals that make sense every deadline and summer. I swear over the last 2 years we’ve probably put together 5-6 deals that would’ve made us better short & long term. Instead we’ll hand out 15M over 2 years to Gary Harris, re up Isaac whose a walking injury and then make head scratching draft pick.

Alex Martins had a vision of us being Champions by 2030 we just have to be patient and evaluate this roster another season

Alex Martins' real vision is nobody scrutinizing his work until 2030...pretty clever.

[Skybox]

Almost the entire NBA rarely make trades. This isn't NBA2k where teams make trades constantly. For all we know, every team is asking outrageous prices for players thus the Magic don't bite. In addition, this team wasn't built to contend this year, so no trade is needed. The Magic are intending to develop players and that is exactly what they are doing. Give it 2-3 years. I read a few articles where the Magic are conserving cap space due to having 3 near max players on the cap in 2 years once Paolo gets paid. They want to make sure they don't mess that up making panic moves like fans think should happen. Good thing armchair GM's do not run NBA teams.

Panic, armchair, 2K…same old cliche excuses…the contenders & tankers make trades every year (with each other)

“Not contending for a title this year” is an absolutely flaccid reason not to improve your team…like you’re going to jump from A to Z when you flip a switch. Not how it works in life or NBA

Then, I reckon 90% of the NBA don't follow your ideas except a few contenders. Funny how just about every GM doesn't do what you think they should do. Not how it works in life or NBA. Just don't be surprised if the Magic make zero moves or only a minor bench player move.

Like you said "Contenders" do, so that's pretty good company...no, I won't be surprised when they casually sit right on their thumbs again and throw the same weak cliches out that you are. I would freakin' die if Weltman said, "Fans need to understand - this ain't 2K"

[Skybox]

Do they though?

I'd go Harris and DEN frp for Gafford...he's really good

but...would you trade for Gary Harris right now?

I wouldn't but for what he's paid, I don't mind keeping him. But if he is needed for a trade to match salaries I wouldn't bat an eye.

No - I meant if you were ANOTHER team that needed win-now help, would you look at Gary Harris (given his extra warm seat on the bench and "like new" game jersey?

It's a shame because he would be marketable if he'd get his goofy ass on the floor...he's a solid rotation guy that could contribute on a good team. Won't win games for you, but won't lose them either and his contract is workable and has a TO.

[thelead]

I'd go Harris and DEN frp for Gafford...he's really good

but...would you trade for Gary Harris right now?

I wouldn't but for what he's paid, I don't mind keeping him. But if he is needed for a trade to match salaries I wouldn't bat an eye.

No - I meant if you were ANOTHER team that needed win-now help, would you look at Gary Harris (given his extra warm seat on the bench and "like new" game jersey?

It's a shame because he would be marketable if he'd get his goofy ass on the floor...he's a solid rotation guy that could contribute on a good team. Won't win games for you, but won't lose them either and his contract is workable and has a TO.

I said that I wouldn't. The first two words in my response

It is a shame. We could use his defense and shooting right now.

[Skybox]

I wouldn't but for what he's paid, I don't mind keeping him. But if he is needed for a trade to match salaries I wouldn't bat an eye.

No - I meant if you were ANOTHER team that needed win-now help, would you look at Gary Harris (given his extra warm seat on the bench and "like new" game jersey?

It's a shame because he would be marketable if he'd get his goofy ass on the floor...he's a solid rotation guy that could contribute on a good team. Won't win games for you, but won't lose them either and his contract is workable and has a TO.

I said that I wouldn't. The first two words in my response

It is a shame. We could use his defense and shooting right now.

gotcha...I agree...I generally don't include him in trades unless there isn't an alternative as I value his expiring salary more than his likely trade value and I really don't mind him eating some minutes when healthy.

[RookieStar]

You guys look at other teams forums? They at least have "insiders" something which we don't have anymore.

Anyhoo... UTA prefers a young prospect and a draft pick for Sexton? Knowing Ainge the prospect he will ask is AB.lol

SAC favorites for Cam? Isnt Cam the "rich" person Keegan Murray? Wonder what's up...

IND |"selling" Turner?

[Skybox]

ORL sends: Isaac(deeply descending deal), Moe (buyout), Harris (buyout), Jett, DEN 25 frp
UTA sends: John Collins, Collin Sexton

Franz, AB, Cole
Suggs, Sexton, Queen
KCP, TdS
Paolo, Collins
Goga, WCJ

Best second unit in the NBA...one of the best young starting 5's in the NBA...lots of interesting combos beyond the 2 lineups. I'd much rather include Cole and WCJ than Isaac or Moe, but I figure Ainge values the financial benefits in lieu of multiple (or good) frps. Maybe add ORL's 25 frp and sub in ...

ORL sends: Cole, Jett, Moe (buyout), Gary (buyout), CoJo (buyout), DEN 25 & ORL 26 protected frp
(again, there is value in getting off Cole's remaining year, especially considering incoming players and extensions looming)
UTA sends: Sexton, Collins

At the end of NEXT season, we'd have decisions to make and performances to analyze. I'd look to move off of WCJ this summer and we'd retain our own pick to flesh out the roster.

[MartinsIzAfraud]

ORL sends: Isaac(deeply descending deal), Moe (buyout), Harris (buyout), Jett, DEN 25 frp
UTA sends: John Collins, Collin Sexton

Franz, AB, Cole
Suggs, Sexton, Queen
KCP, TdS
Paolo, Collins
Goga, WCJ

Best second unit in the NBA...one of the best young starting 5's in the NBA...lots of interesting combos beyond the 2 lineups. I'd much rather include Cole and WCJ than Isaac or Moe, but I figure Ainge values the financial benefits in lieu of multiple (or good) frps. Maybe add ORL's 25 frp and sub in ...

ORL sends: Cole, Jett, Moe (buyout), Gary (buyout), CoJo (buyout), DEN 25 & ORL 26 protected frp
(again, there is value in getting off Cole's remaining year, especially considering incoming players and extensions looming)
UTA sends: Sexton, Collins

At the end of NEXT season, we'd have decisions to make and performances to analyze. I'd look to move off of WCJ this summer and we'd retain our own pick to flesh out the roster.

I just don’t think Utah will want a 25 1st. They already have 3 this year. I also don’t see this FO trading our 26 since it’s a swap with Phoenix and could be top 5

[Skybox]

ORL sends: Isaac(deeply descending deal), Moe (buyout), Harris (buyout), Jett, DEN 25 frp
UTA sends: John Collins, Collin Sexton

Franz, AB, Cole
Suggs, Sexton, Queen
KCP, TdS
Paolo, Collins
Goga, WCJ

Best second unit in the NBA...one of the best young starting 5's in the NBA...lots of interesting combos beyond the 2 lineups. I'd much rather include Cole and WCJ than Isaac or Moe, but I figure Ainge values the financial benefits in lieu of multiple (or good) frps. Maybe add ORL's 25 frp and sub in ...

ORL sends: Cole, Jett, Moe (buyout), Gary (buyout), CoJo (buyout), DEN 25 & ORL 26 protected frp
(again, there is value in getting off Cole's remaining year, especially considering incoming players and extensions looming)
UTA sends: Sexton, Collins

At the end of NEXT season, we'd have decisions to make and performances to analyze. I'd look to move off of WCJ this summer and we'd retain our own pick to flesh out the roster.

I just don’t think Utah will want a 25 1st. They already have 3 this year. I also don’t see this FO trading our 26 since it’s a swap with Phoenix and could be top 5

right...I've heard that before and forgot...we may have a much better shot with POR than UTA

[MartinsIzAfraud]

ORL sends: Isaac(deeply descending deal), Moe (buyout), Harris (buyout), Jett, DEN 25 frp
UTA sends: John Collins, Collin Sexton

Franz, AB, Cole
Suggs, Sexton, Queen
KCP, TdS
Paolo, Collins
Goga, WCJ

Best second unit in the NBA...one of the best young starting 5's in the NBA...lots of interesting combos beyond the 2 lineups. I'd much rather include Cole and WCJ than Isaac or Moe, but I figure Ainge values the financial benefits in lieu of multiple (or good) frps. Maybe add ORL's 25 frp and sub in ...

ORL sends: Cole, Jett, Moe (buyout), Gary (buyout), CoJo (buyout), DEN 25 & ORL 26 protected frp
(again, there is value in getting off Cole's remaining year, especially considering incoming players and extensions looming)
UTA sends: Sexton, Collins

At the end of NEXT season, we'd have decisions to make and performances to analyze. I'd look to move off of WCJ this summer and we'd retain our own pick to flesh out the roster.

I just don’t think Utah will want a 25 1st. They already have 3 this year. I also don’t see this FO trading our 26 since it’s a swap with Phoenix and could be top 5

right...I've heard that before and forgot...we may have a much better shot with POR than UTA

I mean a Cole + Jett offer still is feasible but I don’t see this FO even thinking about that. I fully expect them to do nothing and say we’re hoping to get healthy and see where we are.

[eyriq]

I just don’t think Utah will want a 25 1st. They already have 3 this year. I also don’t see this FO trading our 26 since it’s a swap with Phoenix and could be top 5

right...I've heard that before and forgot...we may have a much better shot with POR than UTA

I mean a Cole + Jett offer still is feasible but I don’t see this FO even thinking about that. I fully expect them to do nothing and say we’re hoping to get healthy and see where we are.

I think they do the same. I also don't think its a terrible decision even if we've obviously not made any mid-level moves to optimize a build around the core.

[AdamTheGreek]

We’re not trading for Sexton.

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[Idiosyncratic]

Would the Pelicans consider a 1st for Jose Alvarado?

[three3d]

Would the Pelicans consider a 1st for Jose Alvarado?

They would lol but if we did that someone better be fired right away

[BadMofoPimp]

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Hahaha. Some forum poster posting on TipTok. I would never do that trade. I wouldn't even trade TDS for Sexton as his ceiling is higher. Magic brass would never ever consider that deal.