Ace Bailey

[FarBeyondDriven]

Jabari is different than any of these guys, Jabari is a 4/5, Miller is a 3/4 jumbo wing and that's the mold Ace is in, but with Andrew Wiggins type of athleticm.

i stand by Andrew Wiggins as the median outcome here, *maybe* Paul George if everything hits right for him.

I don't really see any Jabari. He looks like Jabari and has a similar body but they don't play the same. Jabari was also literally 10x better in college than Ace could dream of. I can't really shake that out of my head when I look at Ace.

no, no he wasn't "literally 10X better in college" Hyperbole isn't necessary

Smith - 17-7-2 shooting 42% from three with 2 stocks per game

Bailey - 19-8-1 shooting 37% from three with 2.5 stocks per game

[JustBuzzin]

Jabari is different than any of these guys, Jabari is a 4/5, Miller is a 3/4 jumbo wing and that's the mold Ace is in, but with Andrew Wiggins type of athleticm.

i stand by Andrew Wiggins as the median outcome here, *maybe* Paul George if everything hits right for him.

Miller is a 2/3 I can tell you don't watch Hornets games and that's understandable we suck lol

Yeah just had to correct you on that.

per bball ref he's played 74% of possessions at the 3, 23% at the 4, and 3% at the 5.

0% at the 2.

so either you're wrong or bball ref is wrong here.

Bro im a Hornets fan.

Miller is too weak to play pf. He's been sg/sf since we drafted him.

Those stats are probably misleading because we dealt with injuries to our 2 centers early in the season so Miller had to play those other positions because we had no bodies.


With a healthy roster he's been primarily a 2/3.

[BlazersBroncos]

I think Miller and Ace are fairly position locked at SF - they can play up and down a slot in a pinch for short stretches but you want them at the 3 - thats where their size and shooting really shine through.

Jabari is much more of a swing guy at PF / C. Both Ace and Miller are way more fluid than Jabari.

[clyde21]

Miller is a 2/3 I can tell you don't watch Hornets games and that's understandable we suck lol

Yeah just had to correct you on that.

per bball ref he's played 74% of possessions at the 3, 23% at the 4, and 3% at the 5.

0% at the 2.

so either you're wrong or bball ref is wrong here.

Bro im a Hornets fan.

Miller is too weak to play pf. He's been sg/sf since we drafted him.

Those stats are probably misleading because we dealt with injuries to our 2 centers early in the season so Miller had to play those other positions because we had no bodies.


With a healthy roster he's been primarily a 2/3.

bro, I don't care you're a hornets fans. if you're watching the Hornets and you're thinking Brandon Miller is playing **** SG you have no clue what you're watching.

you know who's actually playing majority of the Hornets' minutes at the 2? Cody Martin (28% of his poss) and Josh Green (80% of his poss). It's not Brandon Miller.

regardless, this is all irrelevant to my original point that Jabari and Miller are two different archetypes and shouldn't be compared, and *if* Miller was playing the 2/3 role then that would even prove my point more.

[clyde21]

Jabari is different than any of these guys, Jabari is a 4/5, Miller is a 3/4 jumbo wing and that's the mold Ace is in, but with Andrew Wiggins type of athleticm.

i stand by Andrew Wiggins as the median outcome here, *maybe* Paul George if everything hits right for him.

I don't really see any Jabari. He looks like Jabari and has a similar body but they don't play the same. Jabari was also literally 10x better in college than Ace could dream of. I can't really shake that out of my head when I look at Ace.

no, no he wasn't "literally 10X better in college" Hyperbole isn't necessary

Smith - 17-7-2 shooting 42% from three with 2 stocks per game

Bailey - 19-8-1 shooting 37% from three with 2.5 stocks per game

i mean, raw stat comparison for two different players in two different schools in two different conferences and is cool but as of yet Ace doesn't have near the statistical impact that Jabari had (11.1 BPM, 25 PER, 57 TS%, +27 Net Rating and more than double the Win Shares per 48). we'll see if Ace gets there.

[JustBuzzin]

per bball ref he's played 74% of possessions at the 3, 23% at the 4, and 3% at the 5.

0% at the 2.

so either you're wrong or bball ref is wrong here.

Bro im a Hornets fan.

Miller is too weak to play pf. He's been sg/sf since we drafted him.

Those stats are probably misleading because we dealt with injuries to our 2 centers early in the season so Miller had to play those other positions because we had no bodies.


With a healthy roster he's been primarily a 2/3.

bro, I don't care you're a hornets fans. if you're watching the Hornets and you're thinking Brandon Miller is playing **** SG you have no clue what you're watching.

you know who's actually playing majority of the Hornets' minutes at the 2? Cody Martin (28% of his poss) and Josh Green (80% of his poss). It's not Brandon Miller.

regardless, this is all irrelevant to my original point that Jabari and Miller are two different archetypes and shouldn't be compared, and *if* Miller was playing the 2/3 role then that would even prove my point more.

Man you just talking nonsense at this point. I wish you well and whatever you want to believe lol

[Chi town]

Bro im a Hornets fan.

Miller is too weak to play pf. He's been sg/sf since we drafted him.

Those stats are probably misleading because we dealt with injuries to our 2 centers early in the season so Miller had to play those other positions because we had no bodies.


With a healthy roster he's been primarily a 2/3.

bro, I don't care you're a hornets fans. if you're watching the Hornets and you're thinking Brandon Miller is playing **** SG you have no clue what you're watching.

you know who's actually playing majority of the Hornets' minutes at the 2? Cody Martin (28% of his poss) and Josh Green (80% of his poss). It's not Brandon Miller.

regardless, this is all irrelevant to my original point that Jabari and Miller are two different archetypes and shouldn't be compared, and *if* Miller was playing the 2/3 role then that would even prove my point more.

Man you just talking nonsense at this point. I wish you well and whatever you want to believe lol

Miller always plays SG Wing SF. Rarely plays PF. He’s the main handler when Melo is out.

Don’t see how this is questioned. Watch games. Easy to see.

[Chi town]

Ace is way more fluid than Jabari.
Less fluid than Miller especially on ball.

Ace can play D. He’s really good as a weak side shot blocker. He will add weight. I think he will be able to play PF.

Ace can move his feet. He can defend PNR and on the perimeter. He will get bullied with size in the paint early.

I think he’s mostly a 3/4. If he gets a handle he’s PG13. If he gets a true PG next to him it will really help his game and development.

Ace is improving. I think right now he’s being underrated.

[clyde21]

ball handling isn't how positions are determined

understand basketball, easy to see

[CptCrunch]

Some posters are establishing some potential falsehood as fact by passing them repeatedly.

There is no evidence whatsoever that Ace is and or will be a great defender in the league.

Jabari Smith was the epitome of an elite defensive prospect.

[The-Stallion70]

Just watched video of this guy for the first time holy smokes this guy is a stud. He might be my no.1 now.

Difficult to find areas of concern besides learning to pace himself and not go for every block or rebound. Looks like he has an extremely strong base to build off of but wonder how refined his game is. If he really digs in and refines abd develops his game I think he may have superstar potential.

[tontoz]

Just watched video of this guy for the first time holy smokes this guy is a stud. He might be my no.1 now.

Difficult to find areas of concern besides learning to pace himself and not go for every block or rebound. Looks like he has an extremely strong base to build off of but wonder how refined his game is. If he really digs in and refines abd develops his game I think he may have superstar potential.

You really need to watch a few games to get the full picture. Highlight vids aren't going to do it . There are definitely areas of concern but he has been playing better recently.

[The-Stallion70]

Just watched video of this guy for the first time holy smokes this guy is a stud. He might be my no.1 now.

Difficult to find areas of concern besides learning to pace himself and not go for every block or rebound. Looks like he has an extremely strong base to build off of but wonder how refined his game is. If he really digs in and refines abd develops his game I think he may have superstar potential.

You really need to watch a few games to get the full picture. Highlight vids aren't going to do it . There are definitely areas of concern but he has been playing better recently.

Like what

Free throws sure but what else? He impacts the game in alot of ways and has a high motor, these are often traits of a superstar.

[azcatz11]

Just watched video of this guy for the first time holy smokes this guy is a stud. He might be my no.1 now.

Difficult to find areas of concern besides learning to pace himself and not go for every block or rebound. Looks like he has an extremely strong base to build off of but wonder how refined his game is. If he really digs in and refines abd develops his game I think he may have superstar potential.

You really need to watch a few games to get the full picture. Highlight vids aren't going to do it . There are definitely areas of concern but he has been playing better recently.

Like what

Free throws sure but what else? He impacts the game in alot of ways and has a high motor, these are often traits of a superstar.

What do you mean you watched a video?

How can you judge a player by watching a video?

[tontoz]

Just watched video of this guy for the first time holy smokes this guy is a stud. He might be my no.1 now.

Difficult to find areas of concern besides learning to pace himself and not go for every block or rebound. Looks like he has an extremely strong base to build off of but wonder how refined his game is. If he really digs in and refines abd develops his game I think he may have superstar potential.

You really need to watch a few games to get the full picture. Highlight vids aren't going to do it . There are definitely areas of concern but he has been playing better recently.

Like what

Free throws sure but what else? He impacts the game in alot of ways and has a high motor, these are often traits of a superstar.

You could start by actually reading the thread.

*Face palm*

His strengths and weaknesses have been covered pretty thoroughly.

[The-Stallion70]

You really need to watch a few games to get the full picture. Highlight vids aren't going to do it . There are definitely areas of concern but he has been playing better recently.

Like what

Free throws sure but what else? He impacts the game in alot of ways and has a high motor, these are often traits of a superstar.

What do you mean you watched a video?

How can you judge a player by watching a video?

So you went to some of his games?

[azcatz11]

Like what

Free throws sure but what else? He impacts the game in alot of ways and has a high motor, these are often traits of a superstar.

What do you mean you watched a video?

How can you judge a player by watching a video?

So you went to some of his games?

You said you watched a video of him for the first time. You have a lot of conviction for watching “a video” whatever that means.

[The-Stallion70]

What do you mean you watched a video?

How can you judge a player by watching a video?

So you went to some of his games?

You said you watched a video of him for the first time. You have a lot of conviction for watching “a video” whatever that means.

Ok what do you think about Ace then since your opinion is clearly superior as youre presenting yourself. I can say wtf I want kiddo here's a handkerchief if you got an issue.

[The-Stallion70]

You really need to watch a few games to get the full picture. Highlight vids aren't going to do it . There are definitely areas of concern but he has been playing better recently.

Like what

Free throws sure but what else? He impacts the game in alot of ways and has a high motor, these are often traits of a superstar.

You could start by actually reading the thread.

*Face palm*

His strengths and weaknesses have been covered pretty thoroughly.

Nah

[The-Stallion70]

Ace is way more fluid than Jabari.
Less fluid than Miller especially on ball.

Ace can play D. He’s really good as a weak side shot blocker. He will add weight. I think he will be able to play PF.

Ace can move his feet. He can defend PNR and on the perimeter. He will get bullied with size in the paint early.

I think he’s mostly a 3/4. If he gets a handle he’s PG13. If he gets a true PG next to him it will really help his game and development.

Ace is improving. I think right now he’s being underrated.

Yea he's an elite athlete and has a high motor. If he grows a few more inches we could be talking about a Giannis-like prospect here.