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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#621 » by Netaman » Mon Jan 13, 2025 2:39 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:
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vincecarter4pres wrote:How do we feel about the following?

How does Sacramento feel?

Cam Johnson
Cam Thomas
Worst or second worst ‘25 1st

Keegan Murray
Kevin Huerter
‘26 unprotected Sacto 1st


would imagine they see dealing murray as counterproductive. maybe if it were clax if they really like him and not camt but that's probably too much salary?

i think the simple move is camj + worst '25 for unprotected 26 plus some other protected future FRP that's not as good if nets have to take back huerter's $.

I’m actually hoping for something like:

Isaiah Joe
Best of their ‘25 1sts
Best or second best of their ‘26 1sts

For

Cam J
Worst of our ‘25 1sts


i think those 2 picks from OKC are realistic, but i dont think either has the upside of SAC unprotected 2026. That could/should be a top 10 lotto ticket if they end up needing to deal fox.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#622 » by Decipher » Thu Jan 16, 2025 8:21 pm

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Post#624 » by Karate Diop » Sat Jan 18, 2025 5:21 pm

Decipher wrote:Tanking his own value

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I think you keep him and see if he cares better next year... His skill set was always complimentary. He doesn't anchor a defense like a traditional center from the paint, but there's value to his switchability in a competent coherent defense (that comes with familiarity and continuity).

I haven't been happy with his play, but I don't think all hope is lost.
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Post#625 » by Papi_swav » Sat Jan 18, 2025 7:22 pm

Yea I'm not putting much blame on Claxton, this is a waste year and he shouldn't really try too hard to prevent injury. We seen when KD was here he was balling and putting the clamps on offensive players and was a DPOY candidate for most of the year until we traded Kyrie and KD. So we know what Clax is capable of and if we trade him we need to get fair value for him. I'm cool with keeping him too but yes he is a complimentary player and he's playing with a bunch of g leaguers right now
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#626 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Jan 19, 2025 9:21 pm

His frustration is showing and it’s understandable, but a little much at times.

His contract is completely reasonable for who he is as a player and we have to pay someone, and with his play slipping a bit and his trouble controlling his emotions on the court, his value is probably low.

Don’t think there should be, nor is, any real rush to trade him, but they’re certainly going to keep their ears to the street.

Can see something where he brings back one of these lighter protected future 1sts and an expiring, or is traded in combination with Cam Thomas to match salaries and make it more valuable for that team to trade valuable picks for Cam T.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#627 » by vincecarter4pres » Sat Feb 1, 2025 1:55 am

Actually think we’re about to send out Cam Johnson and Clax and get one really good pick and one mediocre one, but they will both convey.

It’s gonna be part of this wild Fox deal.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#628 » by Papi_swav » Sat Feb 1, 2025 6:23 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Actually think we’re about to send out Cam Johnson and Clax and get one really good pick and one mediocre one, but they will both convey.

It’s gonna be part of this wild Fox deal.

if it's a potential top10 pick then thats cool but if its a mid level then naa not enough. Hope we can squeeze a nice lil prospect player thats not getting playing time out of that
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#629 » by ecuhus1981 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 6:05 am

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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#630 » by Karate Diop » Sun Feb 2, 2025 6:19 am

Holy crap... This Luka deal is beyond idiotic for the Mavs.
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Post#631 » by Papi_swav » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:29 am

Why even try if Lakers are going to get anything they want like a spoiled child smh pathetic. 25 of the NBA teams could of came up with a much better deal than that
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#632 » by Decipher » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:32 am

Karate Diop wrote:Holy crap... This Luka deal is beyond idiotic for the Mavs.


Very odd unless Doncic has a serious injury

I suppose that they could turn around and trade AD for stuff if it doesn’t work out

Then you have the Lakers with 2 ball dominant players, no defence and no bigs plus they can’t trade LeBron
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Post#633 » by Decipher » Sun Feb 2, 2025 10:31 am

Btw, our return for KD now looks to be one of the greatest in league history
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#634 » by Karate Diop » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:34 am

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Karate Diop wrote:Holy crap... This Luka deal is beyond idiotic for the Mavs.


Very odd unless Doncic has a serious injury

I suppose that they could turn around and trade AD for stuff if it doesn’t work out

Then you have the Lakers with 2 ball dominant players, no defence and no bigs plus they can’t trade LeBron


Yeah with their roster construction they really have to make another move, unless they're content to piss away this year...
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#635 » by Netaman » Sun Feb 2, 2025 3:54 pm

that Luka return is mind boggling. I have no idea what the Net offer could or would have been, but i have to think it'd been something like Clax + CamJ + a bunch more unprotected firsts. Obviously no AD, but AD is 31 and unreliable. The odds of him and Kyrie winning a championship with a mediocre supporting cast in one of the next few seasons seem very low.

truly one of the most bizarre super star trades I can ever recall. They must have really soured on Luka. They dealt him like he was Deron Williams in Utah with a bum wrist. Or maybe the VC trade is slightly more comparable.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#636 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sun Feb 2, 2025 7:08 pm

I think Nets were clearly looking at Luka this off season. Especially since its clear they were headed towards a divorce.

Would have cost us a ton though. I still want us to just draft our own star instead so not that upset about it.

We just need an organically built team for once.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#637 » by vincecarter4pres » Sun Feb 2, 2025 9:31 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:I think Nets were clearly looking at Luka this off season. Especially since its clear they were headed towards a divorce.

Would have cost us a ton though. I still want us to just draft our own star instead so not that upset about it.

We just need an organically built team for once.

Although I agree overall, Luka is one of maybe 6 players I would have been totally fine abandoning the tank for.
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Post#638 » by therealbig3 » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:44 pm

Netaman wrote:that Luka return is mind boggling. I have no idea what the Net offer could or would have been, but i have to think it'd been something like Clax + CamJ + a bunch more unprotected firsts. Obviously no AD, but AD is 31 and unreliable. The odds of him and Kyrie winning a championship with a mediocre supporting cast in one of the next few seasons seem very low.

truly one of the most bizarre super star trades I can ever recall. They must have really soured on Luka. They dealt him like he was Deron Williams in Utah with a bum wrist. Or maybe the VC trade is slightly more comparable.


LOL, Utah got more for Deron Williams tbh.

AD is a great player, but he's at the end of his prime and injury-prone.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#639 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sun Feb 2, 2025 11:55 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:I think Nets were clearly looking at Luka this off season. Especially since its clear they were headed towards a divorce.

Would have cost us a ton though. I still want us to just draft our own star instead so not that upset about it.

We just need an organically built team for once.

Although I agree overall, Luka is one of maybe 6 players I would have been totally fine abandoning the tank for.


I get it. But I'm sick of looking for an easy way out.

Lets organically build and watch a team grow. How long until Luka gets annoyed again and demands a trade?

Sick of this stuff.
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Re: Official ‘24-25 Off-season Thread 

Post#640 » by ecuhus1981 » Mon Feb 3, 2025 12:10 am

We're not immune to a "homegrown" player getting annoyed, so building organically doesn't solve that.

And let's be clear, Luka did not sour on Dallas. He didn't ask for this.
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